SM Survey - it's for science!!

[Chicklet]

SM Survey

No, it doesn't give you a cute picture and definition at the end, and yes it takes forever. But I thought it was interesting, and maybe you will too.

The results will be out in August, apparently.

 

[DeservingBitch]

SM Survey

No, it doesn't give you a cute picture and definition at the end, and yes it takes forever. But I thought it was interesting, and maybe you will too.

The results will be out in August, apparently.

Apparently, they haven't gotten the memo about trans and other genderqueer people. Not a good start.

Back to survey.

 

[BiBunny]

I partook. (Is that a word?) Anyway, I enjoyed it, but I thought some of the questions were kinda insinuating that S&M practitioners were, at least, neurotic.

 

[snowy ciara]

I'm having an issue with the automatic assumption that masochists are submissive and sadists are Dominant. For the eighty-seventh-bajillioninth time, Not all Doms are Sadists and not all subs are Masochists and just because you're a Dominant masochist or a submissive Masochist, it doesn't make you a switch!

 

[DeservingBitch]

I partook. (Is that a word?) Anyway, I enjoyed it, but I thought some of the questions were kinda insinuating that S&M practitioners were, at least, neurotic.

You mean, like starting by asking about history of mental illness? Geez.

I started answering it, but then some of the questions pissed me off too much and I just stoped. This is the kind of 'scientific studies' that is already ridiculously biased right from the start.

Seriously, you're doing a study on alternative sexuality like SM, and you allow for only two genders, and sexual orientations are limited to het, bi, and gay? Geez.

 

[DeservingBitch]

I'm having an issue with the automatic assumption that masochists are submissive and sadists are Dominant. For the eighty-seventh-bajillioninth time, Not all Doms are Sadists and not all subs are Masochists and just because you're a Dominant masochist or a submissive Masochist, it doesn't make you a switch!

Yeah. That too.

These guys haven't done their fucking research. Seriously, before going out with a questionaire, go to a library and pick up a book or two on the topic you're researching.

 

[Netzach]

I have some faith that they're actually trying to demonstrate that people with certain kinds of sexual fantasies have behavior/personalities at odds with long held assumptions about those orientations. Like I may fantasize about killing people but didn't segment worms for kicks as a kid, who knew!

Most "knowledge" starts with an assumption that we're nuts. At least they're trying to figure out if we ARE and if we are what kind of nuts.

Although I am pretty narcissistic, it's clear.

 

[snowy ciara]

Me too.

 

[nh23]

I did it. I think they are going to be disappointed..I'm pretty sure they are trying to prove people involved in S&M have mental problems..lol

 

[Netzach]

I do have mental problems. They just don't involve a break from reality so profound that I'm a danger to anyone. Pretty much garden variety depression and a strong introvert/logical bent which renders me a little insensitive to the sensitive.

Most people I know in any walk of life tend to be depressed enough to warrant some meds, or ADD, or aspies or something - the bell curve of mental health has the hump in the "not normal" range I think!

I guess to me the point is that we should be allowed to be as crazy as anyone else, not assumed to be crazier than everyone else and forced to counter with "but we're normal and happy!"

 

[Marquis]

Seems like most of you can add paranoia to your already hefty list of mental disorders.

 

[BiBunny]

*Sigh* Sometimes I think I should get back into psych, get my PhD, and spend the rest of my life debunking the myths that surround S&M. And then I think how much I hated getting my bachelor's in psych, and I change my mind.

 

[nh23]

I do have mental problems. They just don't involve a break from reality so profound that I'm a danger to anyone. Pretty much garden variety depression and a strong introvert/logical bent which renders me a little insensitive to the sensitive.

*nods* I should have said severe mental problems.

 

[Marquis]

They just don't involve a break from reality so profound that I'm a danger to anyone.

I can't even say that much, at least in absolutist terms.

In all seriousness, I'm not hypothesizing anything here, but I've almost never met anyone involved in BDSM that couldn't confess to other quirks/abnormalities.

 

[nh23]

Seems like most of you can add paranoia to your already hefty list of mental disorders.

haha..wait was he insulting me?*looks around suspiciously*

 

[BiBunny]

Most people I know in any walk of life tend to be depressed enough to warrant some meds, or ADD, or aspies or something - the bell curve of mental health has the hump in the "not normal" range I think!

No doubt. Maslow said that, what, a whole 1% of the population is truly self-actualized? Like you said though, there's a difference in "my life is not peachy-perfect" and "I need treatment NOW!"

 

[Netzach]

I can't even say that much, at least in absolutist terms.

In all seriousness, I'm not hypothesizing anything here, but I've almost never met anyone involved in BDSM that couldn't confess to other quirks/abnormalities.

Yep, see amended post.

And I can't be absolutist about that either, I mean on most days of the week.

 

[DeservingBitch]

I do have mental problems. They just don't involve a break from reality so profound that I'm a danger to anyone. Pretty much garden variety depression and a strong introvert/logical bent which renders me a little insensitive to the sensitive.

I too have mental illness. Depression.

Which is why I don't want to answer this survey. The way the questions are framed, and how some of the possible answers are limiting, tells me that they are full of problematic assumptions about SM which this survey is not going to change.

Like most social science, this seems like one of those 'if reality doesn't fit the model, lets squeeze reality to fit into the model, and fuck whoever gets screwed up because of it'.

I'm probably to cynical about academia to be a good candidate for that kind of research.

 

[Chicklet]

Seems like most of you can add paranoia to your already hefty list of mental disorders.

lol

i was pretty pleased to answer the questions and represent for the folks that have absolutely no problem connecting reality to, well, reality.

 

[Netzach]

I too have mental illness. Depression.

Which is why I don't want to answer this survey. The way the questions are framed, and how some of the possible answers are limiting, tells me that they are full of problematic assumptions about SM which this survey is not going to change.

Like most social science, this seems like one of those 'if reality doesn't fit the model, lets squeeze reality to fit into the model, and fuck whoever gets screwed up because of it'.

I'm probably to cynical about academia to be a good candidate for that kind of research.

I agree. I mean why not just have me write a paragraph about why I like to whip people but I'm not Ted Bundy and call it done if that's what they're trying to say?

I honestly got the feeling that that IS what they're trying to show to some extent, so I answered. It'll be interesting to see the follow up, hope we get to.

 

[Marquis]

I agree. I mean why not just have me write a paragraph about why I like to whip people but I'm not Ted Bundy and call it done if that's what they're trying to say?

Because organizing that kind of raw data takes considerably more man-hours and isn't much more of an exact science when it comes down to it.

I for one am particularly hungry for statistics on kinksters, even possibly inaccurate or slanted ones. They all are, after all, but there are plenty of issues I wouldn't mind having at least a pivot point on.

 

[DarkhairedLady]

i too am looking forward to seeing the results..have it bookmarked so i can look it up in 8 months.

i was one of those kids that cut up worms among other things...and i'm a sadist that has fantasized about harming others. so i wonder which percentile i'll be falling in...

 

[~His Kitten~]

*sighs*

The link won't load for me.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Because organizing that kind of raw data takes considerably more man-hours and isn't much more of an exact science when it comes down to it.

I for one am particularly hungry for statistics on kinksters, even possibly inaccurate or slanted ones. They all are, after all, but there are plenty of issues I wouldn't mind having at least a pivot point on.

It's actually not so much the stats they're going to get with that survey that I'm skeptical of. It's how those stats are going to be used to 'prove' some bullshit about SM (and mental illness) and pass it as 'science'.

 

[bandelero]

Filled out the survey, but omg, how transparent it was in it's intent to link S&M to mental illness.

Also I get HUGELY irritated with surveys that ask you to quantify how much you agree or disagree with something that just needs a yes or no....pshaw!

**Have you ever been arrested?

Umm, I only fairly strongly agree with that.......**

At least it will give the students at Sheffield U something to do with their time other than beating each other in rooms.