Hillary Bombs! Huckabee Walks on Water!

[amicus]

And Virginia lost to the dreaded Jayhawks...egads what a night!

But earlier, the Oregon Ducks quack attacked to victory and The New England Patriots went 16-0 and made history.

Guiliani manged three whole percent in Iowa? Late entry former Senator Fred Thompson took third place and was ignored the rest of the entire evening by the Media...amusing.

New Hampshire Primary is on Tuesday and people actually vote in that one.

Coo cooka choo Mrs. Robinson...

Amicus...

 

[sr71plt]

And Virginia lost to the dreaded Jayhawks...egads what a night!

But earlier, the Oregon Ducks quack attacked to victory and The New England Patriots went 16-0 and made history.

Guiliani manged three whole percent in Iowa? Late entry former Senator Fred Thompson took third place and was ignored the rest of the entire evening by the Media...amusing.

New Hampshire Primary is on Tuesday and people actually vote in that one.

Coo cooka choo Mrs. Robinson...

Amicus...

Virginia TECH lost to KU. Virginia's loss occurred two days ago (although it wasn't as bad as Tech's lost). Hardly a loss, though. We walked away with $8.5 million for the evening's work.

Iowa's vote is too weird and unrepresentative of anything to mean much--other than giving Dodd the old heave ho, which was going to happen sooner than later anyway.

 

[Boxlicker101]

And Virginia lost to the dreaded Jayhawks...egads what a night!

But earlier, the Oregon Ducks quack attacked to victory and The New England Patriots went 16-0 and made history.

Guiliani manged three whole percent in Iowa? Late entry former Senator Fred Thompson took third place and was ignored the rest of the entire evening by the Media...amusing.

New Hampshire Primary is on Tuesday and people actually vote in that one.

Coo cooka choo Mrs. Robinson...

Amicus...

Guiliani didn't really make any effort in Iowa, so his result doesn't mean much. Thompson finished a rather poor third, and that has to be considered a defeat. He actually entered the race about four months ago, which gave him enough time to convince anybody he could.

The Huck does have his supporters, and they turned out for him. NH and other primaries will turn out to be totally different stories.

The big news has to be Clinton not winning, but she is still the one to beat.

 

[amicus]

Well...I put money on Thompson, so I have a horse in this race so to speak.

I see Giuliani and Romney, both social liberals, duking it out, with McCain and Thompson being the beneficiaries...

I see Clinton and Obama, a woman and a black man, destroying each other, Edwards wimping out, and the Democrats drafting Guiliani in a deadlocked campaign.

Huckabee... a Babtist Minister, gets his tits caught in his guitar strings and stumbles in the big beltway congestion.

Such a deal...

Amicus...

 

[Boxlicker101]

Well...I put money on Thompson, so I have a horse in this race so to speak.

I see Giuliani and Romney, both social liberals, duking it out, with McCain and Thompson being the beneficiaries...

I see Clinton and Obama, a woman and a black man, destroying each other, Edwards wimping out, and the Democrats drafting Guiliani in a deadlocked campaign.

Huckabee... a Babtist Minister, gets his tits caught in his guitar strings and stumbles in the big beltway congestion.

Such a deal...

Amicus...

Maybe the Dems will, hat in hand, come to Joe Lieberman and apologize and try to draft him.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

A campaign about nothing. The Oprahfication of American politics continues apace, with candidates substituting meaningless expressions of sentiment for clearly stated political principles, or a philosophy that actually provides useful information to voters about how the person might govern. Here's an imaginary campaign speech that demonstrates:


I want to live in a country where every individual and every family is able to enjoy what most Americans would agree is a basic level of material comfort and security.

Our cities need to be safe and vital, affording residents a quality of life unmatched in human history.

I believe that our country needs to have ample supplies of clean and sustainable energy.

We must protect our natural resources, and every person should know that the air they breath and the water they drink is safe.

No person should be deprived of essential health care services because they are unable to work, or because they don’t make enough money.

People who are mentally or physically disabled should be able to live in a safe and comfortable environment that affords them all the dignity the human person is due. We should end the scourge of homelessness in our cities.

Seniors should have sufficient resources to be able enjoy a secure and leisurely retirement.

Our schools should be accountable, and should allow every child to reach his or her full potential.

I support a foreign policy in which this country is safe and secure, respected and admired by all.

I want a country where opportunity exists for every American, and where hope is the watchword.

If you agee, then you will vote for me. If you don’t agree with these goals, then you will vote for my opponent. In my innaugural address I will explain how, working, together we will achieve these goals with policies that avoid the mistakes of he past.

Thank you, and God bless.

 

[sr71plt]

The characterization of the Dem candidates here is laughable. Clinton, Obama, and Edwards are all stronger across the field of both parties than anyone in the Republican camp--even when they are set off against each other. I'll certainly try to remember this prediction of Thompson for the Republicans and Guilani or Lieberman for the Democrats and come back here to have another horse laugh.

You couldn't even get the football team right, Ami. *snort*

 

[amicus]

Maybe the Dems will, hat in hand, come to Joe Lieberman and apologize and try to draft him.

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Hmmm...didn't think of that...sounds like a plan!

ami

 

[starrkers]

From the outside looking in - the methods of choosing Presidential candidates seem somewhat overblown and all very crazy.
But I guess we only see the more outlandish portions of it.

 

[amicus]

Well said, Roxanne...could not help but smile...could be said by any candidate in either party and still mean exactly nothing...well said...Happy New Year, kid!

Amicus...

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

From the outside looking in - the methods of choosing Presidential candidates seem somewhat overblown and all very crazy.
But I guess we only see the more outlandish portions of it.

No, your image is correct: The entire spectacle is as outlandish as it is unenlightening.

 

[elsol]

A campaign about nothing. The Oprahfication of American politics continues apace, with candidates substituting meaningless expressions of sentiment for clearly stated political principles, or a philosophy that actually provides useful information to voters about how the person might govern. Here's an imaginary campaign speech that demonstrates:


I want to live in a country where every individual and every family is able to enjoy what most Americans would agree is a basic level of material comfort and security.

Our cities need to be safe and vital, affording residents a quality of life unmatched in human history.

I believe that our country needs to have ample supplies of clean and sustainable energy.

We must protect our natural resources, and every person should know that the air they breath and the water they drink is safe.

No person should be deprived of essential health care services because they are unable to work, or because they don’t make enough money.

People who are mentally or physically disabled should be able to live in a safe and comfortable environment that affords them all the dignity the human person is due. We should end the scourge of homelessness in our cities.

Seniors should have sufficient resources to be able enjoy a secure and leisurely retirement.

Our schools should be accountable, and should allow every child to reach his or her full potential.

I support a foreign policy in which this country is safe and secure, respected and admired by all.

I want a country where opportunity exists for every American, and where hope is the watchword.

If you agee, then you will vote for me. If you don’t agree with these goals, then you will vote for my opponent. In my innaugural address I will explain how, working, together we will achieve these goals with policies that avoid the mistakes of he past.

Thank you, and God bless.

Sorry, Roxy... it doesn't even get off the ground.

Nothing about 'good moral fiber' or 'justice'. You should really consider using the word 'freedom' in there too.

Agh... and no use of the word 'right'... tsk...tsk.

A presidential speech without the word 'lead' or 'leadership' in there?!? --> Never happen!

 

[matriarch]

From the outside looking in - the methods of choosing Presidential candidates seem somewhat overblown and all very crazy.
But I guess we only see the more outlandish portions of it.

Indeed......and it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on........


As for Iowa, did anyone really expect a state that has never, in its history, ever elected a woman to congress or the Governor's mansion, to select a woman candidate for the presidency???

The whole thing is a shambolic circus, and I suspect that many millions of people are totally tee-ed off with the whole rambling process.

 

[Boxlicker101]

No, your image is correct: The entire spectacle is as outlandish as it is unenlightening.

I agree 100%, Rox. Iowa, a small, mainly rural farming state that has almost no minority citizens, wields power that it doesn't deserve. Especially when only a small percentage of eligible voters even bother. Only the fringes of both parties come to the caucuses.

New Hampshire is even smaller, less urban and more atypical. They have, I believe, only three electoral votes. I don't know why people even bother campaigning there, when there are much bigger states, such as Michigan and Florida who also have primaries in Jan.

 

[amicus]

What? We have an Ozzie and a Limey criticizing American politics? Amusing.

It is indeed a messy process performed by messy people, most of whom live messy lives...such a deal.

Try to invade us again and we'll kick ur ass agin and keep your damned metric system and shove it up ur nose!

chuckles...


Amicus...

 

[Boxlicker101]

Sorry, Roxy... it doesn't even get off the ground.

Nothing about 'good moral fiber' or 'justice'. You should really consider using the word 'freedom' in there too.

Agh... and no use of the word 'right'... tsk...tsk.

A presidential speech without the word 'lead' or 'leadership' in there?!? --> Never happen!

Also nothing about full employment and cutting traxes and "meaningful" jobs for everyone, whatever that means.

 

[Belegon]

As for Iowa, did anyone really expect a state that has never, in its history, ever elected a woman to congress or the Governor's mansion, to select a woman candidate for the presidency???

I went to college in Iowa. There was a group of white supremacists that had a march through the streets of downtown during my time there. Complete with a group of actual hood and robe wearing Klansmen. There were also a few crosses burned in town. And my cousin used the word "nigger" during Thanksgiving dinner and then got offended when I refused to remain at the table.

I was also called a nigger-lover because I dared to date a black woman and was involved in a fight in a Hardee's drive thru when four guys got out of their car and went after three female black college students in the car in front of them.. Luckily, the four idiots were quickly outnumbered by us (we were in the third car back) and a couple guys from inside.

Believe me, the choice of a black man in that state is as unlikely as the choice of a woman.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

. . . The whole thing is a shambolic circus, and I suspect that many millions of people are totally tee-ed off with the whole rambling process.

OMG - Matriarch and Roxanne completely agree on a political subject!

 

[Liar]

Barack Obama (38%), John Edwards (30%), Hillary Clinton (29%)
Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%)

Curiously, your headline didn't read "Thompson Sinks! Obama Soars!" instead. I wonder why.

 

[amicus]

Belegon in his rant for equality uber allez vous...inadvertently gave a clue to the rather sophisticated electorate of Iowa Caucus goers.


Hating Clinton, dismissing Edwards as the lightweight he is, knowing a black man will not be elected President, the Iowa voters pulled a superfragilisticexpiallidocious (did that all wrong) humongous joke on the watching world by choosing Obama.


Huckabee won the only state he will ever win in this election due to the preachers organizing the fundamentalist xtians to participate in large enough numbers to sway the election. Romney bought his votes, McCain has been around forever and Thompson is the only real surprise in the caucus and thus, totally ignored by the Media in the aftermath..

Interesting...

Amicus...

 

[Xelebes]

Mmmm... I think I prefer our method of choosing a party choses the prime minister, no quibbles over the "president" (unless it's Adrienne Clarkson")

 

[elsol]

*burp*

I thought the idea of the primaries was for the preacher to preach to the believers to see how he does.

'Cause if you can't preach to the believers... then the heathens will eat you alive.

 

[amicus]

Listened to a phone interview, on Fox news, with Rush Limbaugh concerning the Hillary defeat in Iowa.

Now I don't listen to Limbaugh, never have, back in the old days, I was a competitor of his and never wanted to pick up a style outside my own in talk radio.

He still has a brain cell or two and I found his comments tonight interesting.

Senator, Mrs. Hillary Clinton, wife of former President Bill Clinton, was perceived as the 'heir apparent' to the White House, formerly occupied by her husband. She, 'deserved' the nomination, was 'unstoppable', the 'inevitable' nominee of the Democrat Party.

The Clinton's brought their entire National Campaign Machine, family and all, Party endorsement, all the money in the world for television and radio advertisements, posters, offices, campaign workers, professional organization, the whole nine yards....and lost.

The inevitable candidate was suddenly and irrevocably, vulnerable, and not at all a 'sure thing.'

For all the pooh, pooh, about the insignificance of the Iowa Caucus, something rather large happened last night.

Be interesting to see how it shakes out.

Amicus...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Iowa is the first test of organizational strength and know how. Iowa forces candidates to cope with voters as individuals. That is, they have to identify their supporters by name, and get them to appear at the caucus. You live and die by what your local people do or dont do. In Hillary's case, the local people blew her off.

 

[amicus]

Good point...the 'spin doctor's' are hard at work.

I heard, "70% of the Iowa voters, voted against Hillary."

Ami...