Why men earn more than women

Damn douche bag, you are a fucking stupid moron butt sucking dick herder. Why don't go you go fuck yourself with a chainsaw and drink a bottle of turpentine? You would do the world a favor you despicable fuck hole dip shit fuckwad fucker.

I expect that from a fuckwit from Ann Arbor.
 
I have a long track record on Lit for being the infidel of Capitalism's "Market = God" economic jihad.

I'm all for higher pay for teachers and nurses. Especially nurses.

BTW I wonder what male nurses earn compared to female nurses. Hmmm.

I work in a unionized female dominated environment and you would think there would be parity, but men tend to rise more quickly in the organization. It doesn't really matter if the industry or management is composed of one gender, that's not how systemic discrimination works.

I had to give up 9 years seniority in order to volunteer overseas, within my field, with a nationally recognized organization, as I was denied the 3-month leave to do this. This affects how much I make and my ability to move up in the organization. Coming back I found out that a male co-worker in the same position with only 3 years of service got a 3-month leave to visit Israel and bum around Egypt.

Could have been luck, but this happens to women all the time.
 
While sexism can certainly be a factor, there are other reasons why women earn less than their male counterparts.

Women are far less likely to negotiate their starting salary. (I have seen statistics citing that they are eight-times less liekly to negotiate compared to men.) Most women take the first offer, and men negotiate up. If a male and female start their careers at the same time with the same offer, and the male negotiates his starting salary upward by 10 - 20%, and he squeezing out a couple of extra points with every raise... 10 years down the line he is going to be making a lot more money that the female. This is a pattern women need to break. I've seen it, I've heard it so many times. You offer a woman X and she will answer, "well I was hoping for a little more." Keep on hoping. The man will say, "I can't accept x. I need Y, and here is the reason I am worth it...."

Another reason is that career trajectory years coincide with child-rearing years. Your big title and salary jumps happen in your 30's, at least corporately speaking. Women who take a couple of years off to spend time with their new family are at an extreme disadvantage because those are the prime years for promotions. Again I am am speaking of the corporate world, but if you aspire to hold an executive level position, you better cross that hurdle before you turn 40. There are exceptions of course, but for the most part if you are 40 and are still a manager (or lower) you will likely stay at that level until your retirement. Raising children cuts into this growth time period.
Which is why a lot of women are starting their own businesses

and succeeding, too.
 
I just realized the title of this thread is "why men earn more than women". Haa...was that edited or something?
 
I just realized the title of this thread is "why men earn more than women". Haa...was that edited or something?
It's called the switcheroo. You have no idea how many Litsters I've thrown into a tizzy over that. Phrodeau nearly fell and killed himself over it a few times. :)
 
It's called the switcheroo. You have no idea how many Litsters I've thrown into a tizzy over that. Phrodeau nearly fell and killed himself over it a few times. :)

So you changed the title, in order to the save lives of income sensitive men in the forum, how nice.
 
It's called the switcheroo. You have no idea how many Litsters I've thrown into a tizzy over that. Phrodeau nearly fell and killed himself over it a few times. :)
How full of shit you are.

When you post racist and sexist comments and I point them out to you, you claim that they're parodies. That's when I laugh at you.
 
How full of shit you are.

When you post racist and sexist comments and I point them out to you, you claim that they're parodies. That's when I laugh at you.
Yes, we know you're crazy, Phrodeau. You can't even point to the nose on your face. Go tell the world again how killing someone for making a rape room is extolling rape rooms. Nothing like watching you shoot yourself in the head over and over again.
 
Yes, we know you're crazy, Phrodeau. You can't even point to the nose on your face. Go tell the world again how killing someone for making a rape room is extolling rape rooms. Nothing like watching you shoot yourself in the head over and over again.
Funny, you're the only one who's said that, and you repeat it over and over.
 
"If Canada invaded the US looking for WMD's (funny, how we've got plenty of those!) and Al Qaeda connections (hello, Dubya anyone? OIL industry, anyone?), there'd be rape rooms GALORE and even guillotines set up all over the country, and I'd be one of the first to build a head chopper to welcome our Canadian wanna-be masters."

These are your words. Did you understand what you posted? Nothing since then has convinced me that you ever did.
 
"If Canada invaded the US looking for WMD's (funny, how we've got plenty of those!) and Al Qaeda connections (hello, Dubya anyone? OIL industry, anyone?), there'd be rape rooms GALORE and even guillotines set up all over the country, and I'd be one of the first to build a head chopper to welcome our Canadian wanna-be masters."

These are your words. Did you understand what you posted? Nothing since then has convinced me that you ever did.
Who cares what you're convinced of.

You intentionally leave out more than half of my post in order to get that out of context.

This is what I posted, dumbass.

I'll answer Gringao's question about my views regarding the Iraqi resistance since I seemed to have lost his original post.

As I have said before several times on Lit, America would be doing to foreigners exactly what the Iraqi reistance is doing to foreigners now, if we were being occupied.

If Canada invaded the US looking for WMD's (funny, how we've got plenty of those!) and Al Qaeda connections (hello, Dubya anyone? OIL industry, anyone?), there'd be rape rooms GALORE and even guillotines set up all over the country, and I'd be one of the first to build a head chopper to welcome our Canadian wanna-be masters. I love killing people, especially invaders and bullies. No use in denying that. Hell, I'd probably kill the Americans running the rape rooms AND the invaders, too. I'd be in anger management heaven. And you know what? The American citizen asshats collaborating with the invaders (Canadian or otherwise) would get a mail bomb or two in their box from me.

Word up. And I don't begrudge the Iraqis their right to repel invaders as best they can. Sometimes a man's gotta play dirty to preserve his nation's sovereignty from foreign invaders.

Now feel free to report my ass to homeland security. Flame on.


For your argument to stand, you must contend that
Hell, I'd probably kill the Americans running the rape rooms AND the invaders, too.

was not posted.

If you cannot prove that
Hell, I'd probably kill the Americans running the rape rooms AND the invaders, too.
was not posted, then you lose. Period. End of argument. You just got your ass kicked.


You cannot say
"LT posted Hell, I'd probably kill the Americans running the rape rooms AND the invaders, too."

and also say

"LT is extolling rape rooms"

unless you're fucking crazy. Or stupid. Or both.

You lose. Game over.
 
yes, that one place you worked is the only restaurant in the whole world. i'm sorry. i forgot.


Pointless sometimes your amusing, sometimes your an idiot, guess which one this is. :p

I've worked in a grand total of 8 restaurants and 6 bars. In ONE I actually went into the kitchen, because I was the one cooking half the time. Still had to wear shorts, there was an apron in the kitchen to don while cooking. It was a bar mind you. Every other place I have worked in, or eaten at, there was a small little room leading to the kitchen where the waiting staff could sit, not to mention talk to the cooks and collect their orders. That little note they are writing in when you tell them what you want, is placed on a round and done by the cooks.

There is a reason for this and it is a most basic reason, Health Codes. To pass inspections, the cooking staff has to wear a hat or hair net, hands are to be clean and so forth. Waitresses and waiters do not fall under the Health Codes for a cooking area so they are segregated from the cooking area as I have mentioned.

See this is because, being served by someone in a hair net is not looked upon kindly by the majority of restaurant goers apparently because I never see a waiter or waitress in said hair net or a full hat. Those little brow things do not qualify as agreeing to the Health Codes so they are not allowed in the cooking area.

If you want I could go look up the Health Codes and list them, though most of it will be on proper storage and preparation of foods. Oh I forgot to mention, ponytails and buns do not meet standards without a hair net. A hat has to cover the majority of the hair, if you have long hair and want to be a cook or chef, you have to pack it into a hat or wear a hair net.

I'm not just pulling this out of the air, I do have a history of jobs sheesh I did not find a guy to pay for everything the instant I turned 18 and moved out. :rolleyes:

Well 17 but there was extenuating circumstances, a job offer two towns over. :eek:

Oh shoot there is one place I have eaten where the waitress was in the cooking area, small little place that mostly did pancakes and waffles. She was wearing a cute little bun and a hair net. You could watch your food being made, rather neat little experience. :eek:
 
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You intentionally leave out more than half of my post in order to get that out of context.
I left out the rest of the garbage in that post because it doesn't make a whit of difference to the context of the garbage I quoted.

You shuldn't spurn the efforts of editors. Your writing could really benefit from them.
 
I left out the rest of the garbage in that post because it doesn't make a whit of difference to the context of the garbage I quoted.
Yes it does.

Hell, I'd probably kill the Americans running the rape rooms AND the invaders, too.

was a part of that post. It shows you are a liar when you say I was extolling rape rooms.

You are scared shitless to admit I posted Hell, I'd probably kill the Americans running the rape rooms AND the invaders, too. because it fucking DESTROYS your argument.

You lose again.
 
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