How many typos do I need to add to not be flagged as AI?

[AwkwardlySet]

please do.

AO3 for fanfiction.

SOL for incest stuff, but also for more literary work. Military/historical and Fantasy/Scifi do decently there. Fetishy stuff doesn't do nearly as well.

RoyalRoad is excellent for non-erotic fantasy work, especially for gamelit stuff.

The rest of the sites I know are either niche, too small, or I've no experience with them (such as Lush)

 

[TheLobster]

t made up numbers and confidently miscounted, contradicted itself from one prompt to the next, repeatedly claimed to have capabilities it didn't actually have (...)

LLMs are Car Salesmen as a Service.

 

[CalBishForNow]

I hesitate to offer authorial advice, but since @ShelbyDawn57 already has, I'll admit one thing jumps out at me about your work... your protagonist/narrator/main characters seem very passive. In April the Queen, the narrator is on the receiving end of, as you point out, a soft femdom story, fine, but he adapts to it after simply a little introspection. You've got four LW stories, and in each of them someone has something to be mad about, and each time they address it passive-aggressively. No one throws anything or gets violent or yells, they just reciprocate whatever was done to them.

Also, your characters speak in complete sentences. I see "Ok" now and then, but no run-on sentences or verbal backspaces or repetition for emphasis or anything like that. It's not introducing typos, it's making dialogue more naturalistic. Review the "Works with a realistic quantity of 'um's and 'ah's" mentioned here, or just read a machine-created transcript of a meeting and see how unreadable it is. You don't want to be literally that bad, but maybe a little bit closer to it than you currently are.

Obviously those stories of yours were published, so they got by the AI detector, and some real people really are passive-aggressive and speak with good grammar, but still, I can't help feeling like it might be related.

 

[Just4Sheets]

I hesitate to offer authorial advice, but since @ShelbyDawn57 already has, I'll admit one thing jumps out at me about your work... your protagonist/narrator/main characters seem very passive. In April the Queen, the narrator is on the receiving end of, as you point out, a soft femdom story, fine, but he adapts to it after simply a little introspection. You've got four LW stories, and in each of them someone has something to be mad about, and each time they address it passive-aggressively. No one throws anything or gets violent or yells, they just reciprocate whatever was done to them.

Also, your characters speak in complete sentences. I see "Ok" now and then, but no run-on sentences or verbal backspaces or repetition for emphasis or anything like that. It's not introducing typos, it's making dialogue more naturalistic. Review the "Works with a realistic quantity of 'um's and 'ah's" mentioned here, or just read a machine-created transcript of a meeting and see how unreadable it is. You don't want to be literally that bad, but maybe a little bit closer to it than you currently are.

Obviously those stories of yours were published, so they got by the AI detector, and some real people really are passive-aggressive and speak with good grammar, but still, I can't help feeling like it might be related.

So that's the real me in a nutshell. Passive aggressive with few wasted words in my conversational style.

However, I can adapt in my writing. After all, 90% of my writing are situations I've never been in, so I can certainly have people speak like I've never spoken. I just didn't know it was so unusual.

Thanks very much. You've given me some new insight.


J4S

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Probably does not apply here, but a few people have posted to the AH saying they don't use AI, but it turns out they rely on Grammarly. Which is increasingly AI-based.

--Annie

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

A Google search got me this:

Grammarly's Authorship feature tracks text origins (human-typed, AI-generated, or copied) and creates a transparent report, but it doesn't embed traditional, visible "track changes" like Word; instead, it adds metadata or tags behind the scenes to show text evolution, differentiating between core suggestions (grammar/spelling) and generative AI edits, giving users control over this detailed writing history

 

[millamomud]

I tried several approaches, but none were successful. I submitted something completely new, out of my usual style, which was rejected, and then I put up an older story, which didn't fly either. Polite notes and providing Word documents outlining the story's development over the weeks I wrote it didn't work. In a desperate attempt, I even provided a clean ASCII version, purging everything not fitting into UTF-8, such as German umlauts (ä, ö, ü) or smart quotes („“ instead of "").

I don't use grammarly and the likes as well.

 

[Just4Sheets]

Probably does not apply here, but a few people have posted to the AH saying they don't use AI, but it turns out they rely on Grammarly. Which is increasingly AI-based.

--Annie

Literotica mentioned Grammarly specifically in their note when they send a story back. I had never heard of us before then and have never used it.


J4S

 

[dirk2024]

Hasn't anyone considered that we're being targeted and tormented by the AI Overlords because of our anti-AI stance? People, they are real, and they want to fuck us, and not like one of our lesbian romance stories. There is no familiarity like one of our tender brother-sister taboo stories. Even one of our much vaunted Loving Wives stories are more loving than what we've been experiencing here as of late. It's more than a conspiracy...its a reckoning!

This is a noncon fuckfest and our collective assholes are the target of these electronic demons!

 

[EmilyMiller]

I am sure most of us can figure out the plot of a Literotica story after reading the first few paragraphs.

Try this:

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-story-of-nix-part-i

 

[SmilingLez]

Try this:

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-story-of-nix-part-i

A shameless plug, I love it. I will definitely start your novel this weekend

 

[SmilingLez]

Try this:

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-story-of-nix-part-i

After reading the first six paragraphs - It's a sci-fi story about growing up and figuring out who you are.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Unfortunately most stories / videos dealing with sexuality are rehashed themes. I am sure most of us can figure out the plot of a Literotica story after reading the first few paragraphs.

It's not that it's rehashed, it's how, like how generic it's written.

 

[iwatchus]

Try this:

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-story-of-nix-part-i

Or if you want a shorter one, try Fantasia It's a four part series, but each ir really short, maybe 14K combined.
And it's one of my most straight pure erotica story I have.
I'll buy you a coffee (at the coffee house here of course) if you can guess the plot line from the first five paragraphs.

 

[SmilingLez]

Or if you want a shorter one, try Fantasia It's a four part series, but each ir really short, maybe 14K combined.
And it's one of my most straight pure erotica story I have.
I'll buy you a coffee (at the coffee house here of course) if you can guess the plot line from the first five paragraphs.

6 words - be careful what you wish for

 

[iwatchus]

6 words - be careful what you wish for

Finish and see what you think. Not a winning in my book.

 

[TheLobster]

Hasn't anyone considered that we're being targeted and tormented by the AI Overlords because of our anti-AI stance?

Yup. When Roko's basilisk appears, we're all fucked.

 

[StillStunned]

Unfortunately most stories / videos dealing with sexuality are rehashed themes. I am sure most of us can figure out the plot of a Literotica story after reading the first few paragraphs.

I think this is selling a lot of the stories here short, unless you mean "the plot" in only the vaguest of terms: "They end up having sex [optional: with a specific kink]," or "This is a standard [romance/adventure/revenge/etc.] story, with added sex."

I'm not particularly good at writing plots, but even I like to think that it takes most readers more than a handful of paragraphs to figure out where my stories are going. (Not including single-scene strokers, of course.)

 

[Off_base]

I think this is selling a lot of the stories here short, unless you mean "the plot" in only the vaguest of terms: "They end up having sex [optional: with a specific kink]," or "This is a standard [romance/adventure/revenge/etc.] story, with added sex."

I'm not particularly good at writing plots, but even I like to think that it takes most readers more than a handful of paragraphs to figure out where my stories are going. (Not including single-scene strokers, of course.)

The predictable, usual tropes from those who are cranking out as many stories as they can, often make the unique and upredictable stories even better, for me.

 

[StillStunned]

The predictable, usual tropes from those who are cranking out as many stories as they can, often make the unique and upredictable stories even better, for me.

I think it's also important to recognise that "it's about the journey, not the destination" is particularly true in erotica. How many stories can be boiled down to "boy/girl meets boy/girl"? For example, in essence my stories "Full Moon On Old Jack's Hill", "Love At First Sight" and "Pas de Trois" are the same: spying on people having sex. "Too Cold Not to Fuck", "Tammy, Jessica, Yuliya", "Annie's Inhibition Removal Therapy" and "The Code" are all about overcoming an inner struggle before having sex. "Angry Fuck" is "The Rivals", but in 2.5k words instead of 55k, and without the demons and tomb raiding.

 

[Off_base]

I think it's also important to recognise that "it's about the journey, not the destination" is particularly true in erotica. How many stories can be boiled down to "boy/girl meets boy/girl"? For example, in essence my stories "Full Moon On Old Jack's Hill", "Love At First Sight" and "Pas de Trois" are the same: spying on people having sex. "Too Cold Not to Fuck", "Tammy, Jessica, Yuliya", "Annie's Inhibition Removal Therapy" and "The Code" are all about overcoming an inner struggle before having sex. "Angry Fuck" is "The Rivals", but in 2.5k words instead of 55k, and without the demons and tomb raiding.

Agreed. I don't approach any story as a reader with the thought that it's probably a trope, so I don't immediately judge it and ruin the adventure for myself before I even get started. And even stories that have a familiar theme, end up being some of the best reads, because the author is a clever writer who knows how to make the characters unique.

 

[iwatchus]

I write a lot of romance and romance adjacent stories here, so yeah every one of those is one character meets another and eventually they fall in love and are HEA. Story done.

I can summarize every Hercule Poirot as 'Someone gets murdered, Hercule pokes around, gathers all the suspects together and announces the killer.'

The details matter or as @StillStunned said, it's about the journey.

Sometimes I want to know the ending of things, because I want to focus on the journey, already knowing the ending. Sometimes I want to watch a movie I've already seen, because it's comfortable. I know where it's going. That's why romance novels are so popular. The reader knows, with absolute certainty, it will end with HEA.

To be more specific to erotica, no one wants to read a stroker about getting sucked off, worrying about whether the story will have a twist at the end where she bites it off. They may not know whether he's going to come on her face or down her throat. Some readers probably want to know which of those, that's who good tags are for.

EDIT: You could really piss off readers by combining the twist above with the swallows tag.

But even within erotica, there is room for the unknown. I had been reading Fantasia yesterday, unrelated to this conversation, when I shamelessly plugged it here. One of the reasons I was pretty sure no one could guess the plot line of all 4 parts (only about 14K total, so not big) was that I had pantsed that thing completely. I had no idea (or rather a half dozen completely different ideas) about where that story was going to go when I was 2K into it. I had figured out where it was well into part (5-6K words into into it).

(One of the many possible paths I did not take was the one @SmilingLez guess as a very rough plot summary. As it turned out, I went 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Of course, I do love my HEA too much.)

 

[nice90sguy]

Don't be too hard on yourself. I just read Haven't You Ever Wondered. I

Good luck.

I just read it too, to check your writing style, while asking myself the question "why would someone or some detector (yes, I know, wrongly) think this was AI written?"

Too many short sentences perhaps. Far too many. I don't know, but, that's just a guess. A wild guess.

 

[TheLobster]

I just read it too, to check your writing style, while asking myself the question "why would someone or some detector (yes, I know, wrongly) think this was AI written?"

Too many short sentences perhaps. Far too many. I don't know, but, that's just a guess. A wild guess.

I’d think it might be LLM not because of style per se, but because there is no variation in it between narration and dialogue. It start pretty snappy, albeit a little mechanical, but then you get to the conversation with the doctor and he speaks in exactly the same way as the narrator.

Identical way. Same structure. Choppy sentences. Sentence fragments. Only quotes to distinguish it from narration.

I’m not saying that it’s a telltale sign of AI, but avoiding getting caught by the detector may also lead to better writing…

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I’d think it might be LLM not because of style per se, but because there is no variation in it between narration and dialogue. It start pretty snappy, albeit a little mechanical, but then you get to the conversation with the doctor and he speaks in exactly the same way as the narrator.

Identical way. Same structure. Choppy sentences. Sentence fragments. Only quotes to distinguish it from narration.

I’m not saying that it’s a telltale sign of AI, but avoiding getting caught by the detector may also lead to better writing…

@lobster56 ,@nice90sguy
Y’all realize this story is an example of one of his that DIDN’T get flagged for AI, right?

II thought that was obvious since it was actually published.