If You Incest: A Data-Driven Post on Why Your Story is Screwed

[TheLobster]

The # of people whose stories get delayed who then also say "Sure, I use Grammarly but I don't let it change anything" seems to be way to high to be coincidental.

It's quite hilarious when you think about it.

Okay, so you don't accept any of Grammarly's suggestions. But do you accept the whole idea that the passages it points you to need be changed? And do you then change them, repeatedly if necessary, until Grammarly stops highlighting them as problematic?

Well, congratulations. You have now altered your text to confirm to an LLM's idea of good writing. Your story is now AI-generated, except the AI used you to generate it!

 

[AwkwardlySet]

My idea about most of the AI complaints is that people do use AI in one form or another in their stories.

AI is so much hyped and used, it is too easy to grab and try to post it. Some people might use it without realising, as many (non-native) writers use programs to help them construct a decent sentence. Word suggestions, grammar rules or auto complete, it can all lead to language that AI uses a lot.

The people who legitimately wrote their stories and got caught in the filter are in all probability few.

I agree. The AI is being advertised everywhere, and people are weak and prone to taking the easy way.

Just yesterday, I got an offer from Grammarly to upgrade and use their SuperHuman AI, which covers a variety of writing needs. One of the advertised features is to use the AI to "humanize" my writing.
Maybe in the near future, we will need to mimic the way AI writes now to avoid being flagged. It's a game of back and forth that we are bound to lose very soon.

For what it's worth, I support Lit's stance on AI, but I also think that their strategy sucks. They are being overwhelmed and aren't showing signs of adapting to the new situation. It's only going to get worse. What a terrible moment to be an amateur writer.

 

[cw5523729]

It's quite hilarious when you think about it.

Okay, so you don't accept any of Grammarly's suggestions. But do you accept the whole idea that the passages it points you to need be changed? And do you then change them, repeatedly if necessary, until Grammarly stops highlighting them as problematic?

Well, congratulations. You have now altered your text to confirm to an LLM's idea of good writing. Your story is now AI-generated, except the AI used you to generate it!

Hey, why can't AI use the model of work-smarter-not-harder too?

 

[YmaOHyd]

If clicks were the only thing, there wouldn't be a whole story event dedicated to micro-stories that get no clicks.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

I will write a story about daddy getting fucked in the ass.
Will that be posted quickly enough?

 

[cw5523729]

I will write a story about daddy getting fucked in the ass.
Will that be posted quickly enough?

Daddy getting fucked in the ass?

It already got posted before you even wrote it.

I just read it.

I gave it 5 stars.

Waiting for the sequel.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Notice how the Novels and Novellas category is capped at 3-5 stories published per day. You think it’s because that category somehow receives exactly 3-5 submissions daily?

Yes. That is roughly how many submissions it gets daily. How do we know this? Because that is how many it has always gotten long before the crazy purgatory situation of the past few months. You collect your data but you do not have a control group of pre-submission-delay data so all of your conclusions are 100% baseless.

Because my story was a satirical takedown of gay erotica tropes.

It was funny as hell.

I knew it. And so did the person who read it.

Nobody read it. If you honestly think that someone (whether that's one person or a small hired army of readers) actually reads 200 story submissions per day to a total of somewhere between 2.5 and 5 million words before approving anything, you have bigger issues to sort out than some simple data crunching.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

 

[alohadave]

This isn’t a conspiracy. This is data.

There is data, but it doesn't mean what you think it does.

You are doing a shit ton of speculating, using a weeks worth of published stories to back up your claim.

Come back when you do a proper scrape of the database with months of data to be able to find actual trends in the data.

 

[StillStunned]

If clicks were the only thing, there wouldn't be a whole story event dedicated to micro-stories that get no clicks.

I assume you mean the 750 Word Challenge? Those get clicks: my two attempts have 15k (T/I) and 5.9k (Non-Erotic) views.

But if clicks were the only thing, Laurel herself would never have given the impetus for last year's WIWAW Challenge. In fact, if clicks were the only thing, Lit would probably have got rid of Reviews & Essays long ago, and Chain Stories, Letters & Transcripts, How To and Humour & Satire as well probably.

 

[onehitwanda]

Well, congratulations. You have now altered your text to confirm to an LLM's idea of good writing. Your story is now AI-generated, except the AI used you to generate it!

Incraption!

 

[StillStunned]

Incraption!

Insloption.

 

[THBGato]

And your long, heartfelt slow-burn lesbian romance with deep character work?

Yeah. That’s getting sidelined for whatever other story the stats say is more likely to get clicks.

Apropos of the above, I've got a new heartfelt, slow-burn lesbian romance with what I hope is deep character work slated to publish tomorrow. I submitted it yesterday.

 

[alohadave]

I do not believe that there is any sort of official white list either, but I certainly believe that when someone like RejectReality or ElectricBlue comes up in the queue, it's likely they get clicked through with little or no scrutiny, while newer authors, or those who have previously been problematic, get a closer look.

That's basic human nature. I've been admin/moderator in enough places to have experienced this myself. You learn who posts high quality content and you don't worry as much about what they are posting. They are a known quantity.

^---- this. The # of people whose stories get delayed who then also say "Sure, I use Grammarly but I don't let it change anything" seems to be way to high to be coincidental. Or everyone on here uses Grammarly except me.

After not having used Grammarly for nearly a year, for my latest story, I checked the settings for the free version I use, and the AI option is enabled by default. I unchecked that and used it as I normally do as a SPaG checker.

 

[onehitwanda]

Apropos of the above, I've got a new heartfelt, slow-burn lesbian romance with what I hope is deep character work slated to publish tomorrow. I submitted it yesterday.

Hang on, I'm going to use the special dildo-pink telephone of Doom to ensure it gets caught up in the ferris wheel for a month or two.

 

[THBGato]

Hang on, I'm going to use the special dildo-pink telephone of Doom to ensure it gets caught up in the ferris wheel for a month or two.

Feeling the love...

 

[StillStunned]

Hang on, I'm going to use the special dildo-pink telephone of Doom to ensure it gets caught up in the ferris wheel for a month or two.

Some of the demons in Doom were pink, if I remember rightly, but I don't recall seeing a telephone in any of the versions I played.

 

[SimonDoom]

Hang on, I'm going to use the special dildo-pink telephone of Doom

You rang?

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Some of the demons in Doom were pink, if I remember rightly, but I don't recall seeing a telephone in any of the versions I played.

Stupid question: do you consider a PDA a phone?

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/PDA

 

[EmilyMiller]

Apropos of the above, I've got a new heartfelt, slow-burn lesbian romance with what I hope is deep character work slated to publish tomorrow. I submitted it yesterday.

And it will get at least 10,000+ views. They don’t understand the LS category, which is relatively high-traffic for not being one of the honeypot categories. E/V and Mature are comparable.

 

[FrancesScott]

Apropos of the above, I've got a new heartfelt, slow-burn lesbian romance with what I hope is deep character work slated to publish tomorrow. I submitted it yesterday.

My two heartfelt, mid-tempo-burn lesbian romances have both gained around 18,000 views. Pretty much identical to my Loving Wives trainwreck.

 

[Zootonius]

You rang?

I heard that in the voice of Lurch!

 

[Zootonius]

Well, this is a good example of why journals have peer review.

(Or maybe it needs pier review)

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Well, this is a good example of why journals have peer review.

(Or maybe it needs pier review)

A motherfucking review is what this bad motherfucker needs, motherfucker!

 

[iwatchus]

Well, this is a good example of why journals have peer review.

(Or maybe it needs pier review)

Unfortunately, too many of those peers don't do actual reviews.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

^---- this. The # of people whose stories get delayed who then also say "Sure, I use Grammarly but I don't let it change anything" seems to be way to high to be coincidental. Or everyone on here uses Grammarly except me.

Similarly the # of people that say they use auto-translation tools when auto-translation tools are no where near capable of accurately translating entire stories yet is crazy.

I always use Grammarly to check the grammar in my stories and have never had it be an issue. I also use other AI resources such as the native spell checker in MS Word, and the "read-aloud" feature in MS Word. Never heard a peep or seen a rejection.

The issue is not with the use of AI, it is, has been, and will likely continue to be the use on "generative" AI in its varied forms. That distinction may need to be clarified for some.