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Actually president Trump is correct about seditious behavior..... US code 894 - article 94 states that mutiny or sedition is Punishable by death..... President Trump was just stating law.....
Punctuation matters, idiot. This is just you signing your post as "quiet piggy."
So now he understands the punishment for trying to overturn the Constitution and telling his supporters to march on the Capitol and fight like hell.
Context matters.
When President Pig himself is not following the law, your first responsibility is to the Constitution, not to President Pig.
U.S. troops are REQUIRED under the Uniform Code of Military Justice to refuse illegal orders — not encouraged, not suggested, REQUIRED. If they obey an illegal order, THEY can be prosecuted. And some of the orders floating around right now might be illegal as hell.
1. What the UCMJ actually demands — not what Facebook influencers pretend it says
Be legal Be within the authority of the commander Follow U.S. law, treaties, and the law of armed conflict Use force only when force is legally justified
Kill people who are not lawful combatants Use lethal force where force isn’t legally justified Target civilians or noncombatants Break U.S. criminal law Violate maritime or international law Act outside congressional authorization Treat law enforcement situations like war **2. When is it actually legal to shoot a vessel on the high seas? A. The vessel is actively threatening U.S. forces B. The vessel is a legitimate military target in an armed conflict C. Non-lethal force failed and lethal force is necessary to protect life 3. The part that suddenly got awkward: the Venezuelan boats
Drug smuggling is a crime, not warfare
It does not create combatant status
It does not authorize sinking a vessel
It does not bypass international law
It does not justify lethal force Who gave the order to fire? Under what authority? Where was the imminent threat? Why weren’t normal interdiction steps used? 4. Why they’re attacking Mark Kelly instead of answering questions 5. Here’s the truth they don’t want you repeating The U.S. military answers to the Constitution — not any individual. Lawful orders must be obeyed. Unlawful orders must be refused. If someone in ExSeth’s Pentagon issued commands to sink vessels that weren’t lawful targets, those were illegal orders. Mark Kelly isn’t the problem. The people abusing the military to do things the law doesn’t allow are.
Exactly. Well documented. Thank you.What an Illegal Order Actually Is — And Why People Don’t Want You Asking Questions About Those Venezuelan Boats
The loudest people screaming “TREASON!” at Senator Mark Kelly don’t want anyone to understand what the UCMJ actually says.
Because once you understand it, you start realizing why certain things happening right now look… bad.
So here’s the lesson they’re terrified you’ll read:
Let’s unpack this the way adults do.
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A lawful order must:
An unlawful order is any command that tells a service member to:
If a recruit followed one of these in basic training, they’d flunk the test.
If a soldier follows it in real life, they can be charged with a crime.
But the people shrieking “treason!” hope you don’t know that.
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(Hint: almost never)**
Under U.S. law and international maritime law, lethal force is only authorized when:
Ramming, firing, hostile intent — a real threat, not a guess.
Which requires…
• A declared war
• OR a congressionally authorized war
• OR an internationally recognized armed conflict
We’re not at war with Venezuela.
Nobody even pretends otherwise.
Not to “speed up interdiction.”
Not because “they ran.”
Not because “it might be drugs.”
SUSPECTED smuggling doesn’t make a vessel a combat target.
Ever.
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The administration has admitted that U.S. forces have shot Venezuelan vessels out of the water and then justified it by saying:
“They were drug boats.”
Okay.
Even if that’s true, let’s be honest:
So ask the obvious question:
If the answers don’t line up with the law?
Then the order was illegal and troops were required to refuse it.
That’s not my opinion.
That’s the UCMJ.
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Because once Americans understand what an “illegal order” actually is, they start noticing things:
• Some troops are being told to do things on U.S. soil that look like law enforcement without authority
• Some units are being used in ways that stretch or violate congressional limits
• And yes — some maritime engagements look like they jumped straight to lethal force without legal justification
If voters learn the actual rules, the narrative collapses.
So instead of explaining the law, certain people scream “TREASON!” and hope the noise covers the details.
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The moment you understand this, the shouting loses its power.
Knowledge is kryptonite to people who rely on confusion.
And that’s why they hate posts like this.
There was no sedition committed.
Not one sentence of that video called for rebellion or resistance of a lawful act. Consequently, you are really so far off base that you would have missed the moonshot by a billion miles on this lie.
