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onehitwanda said:
I always have a sensible chuckle when I hear US news going on about the "World Series".
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Yeah I always found that pretty funny too.
Then I saw a video where an American talked about it being a bit ridiculous. The comments section had me dying. So many people were adamant that obviously the best US team were the World Champions since they had won in the US and the US were obviously the best at American Football. The arguments only got weirder from there.
 
onehitwanda said:
I always have a sensible chuckle when I hear US news going on about the "World Series".
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I’m inclined to give them a pass, considering basically no one elsewhere in the world cares about their favorite flavor of pig bladder sportsball, and only slightly more than no one about the wooden stick nonsense.
 
from what I recall, it was originally called the World Series as a tongue in cheek jab by newspapers because no one else in the world played baseball, but then the name was quickly appropriated by baseball promoters.

Now in the actual world championship, the world baseball classics, I should note that Japan dominates 💪
 
I used to pay more attention to baseball in years past. It might be worth pointing out that while the US (and Canadian) cities that make up the MLB hardly span the world, the players who make up the teams are most of the best from all over the globe, so it's a true world series in that sense.
 
Bamagan said:
I used to pay more attention to baseball in years past. It might be worth pointing out that while the US (and Canadian) cities that make up the MLB hardly span the world, the players who make up the teams are most of the best from all over the globe, so it's a true world series in that sense.
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By that logic, the Rugby Prem and the Champions League are also World Cups.
 
Bamagan said:
Is that considered a contentious or specious claim? I pay very little attention to any sports except Calvinball these days.
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The Prem is England's domestic rugby league (rugby union, not rugby league, just to be clear). The Champions League is the European football (soccer) league. Calling either of them "world" events because the players come from around the globe would generally meet with blank stares followed by ridicule.
 
Jackie.Hikaru said:
from what I recall, it was originally called the World Series as a tongue in cheek jab by newspapers because no one else in the world played baseball, but then the name was quickly appropriated by baseball promoters.

Now in the actual world championship, the world baseball classics, I should note that Japan dominates 💪
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Fact. From Little League to professional.
 
Bamagan said:
Is that considered a contentious or specious claim? I pay very little attention to any sports except Calvinball these days.
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Personally, I wouldn't consider anything a World Cup, unless it's a tournament between national teams, where all nations (except in very special circumstances) are welcome to compete.
Being World Champs is not the same as having the best players from around the world.

Arguably, winning the Champions League is a more impressive achievement than winning the World Cup, that doesn't give you the World Cup title though.
 
Jackie.Hikaru said:
while we're on this topic: is Chess a sport?
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I feel like it kinda is, but mostly because we're lacking a better term.
Some of the less, or not at all athletic/physical competitive activities should probably have a separate term from "sport", but they don't so that's what I'd call them.

We could also make sub-terms for both, and keep sport as the overarching term. That might be less controversial - not that either are going to happen anytime soon, realistically.
 
Z_TheWriter said:
Personally, I wouldn't consider anything a World Cup, unless it's a tournament between national teams, where all nations (except in very special circumstances) are welcome to compete.
Being World Champs is not the same as having the best players from around the world.

Arguably, winning the Champions League is a more impressive achievement than winning the World Cup, that doesn't give you the World Cup title though.
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I guess I'm kind of the opposite. I have a measure of disdain for national identities as a badge of pride, whether in terms of world cups or series or Olympic medals. That being said, the professional model where the teams are toys of billionaires is even more malodorous.
 
Bamagan said:
I guess I'm kind of the opposite. I have a measure of disdain for national identities as a badge of pride, whether in terms of world cups or series or Olympic medals. That being said, the professional model where the teams are toys of billionaires is even more malodorous.
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I kinda get the disdain for being proud of a national identity. The pledge of allegiance thing in US schools for instance gives me major creeps.
But for the Olympics and stuff - they're just sports. It's just people having fun and competing and you cheer for whoever you feel most connected to. In those types of circumstances, I think national pride is fine.
 
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