A different kind of AI question - Legalese

[ShelbyDawn57]

So, I've got this story that has a contract in it. The text of the contract is important to the story. I took my apartment lease and used it as a guide and came up with the following(see below) that tests as as much as 97% AI, it's legalese, go figure.

Question is, for those who know, how do I get this published?

And yes, the guy that signed this pretty much fucked himself.

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DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY: The undersigned, James Granger, hereinafter referred to as the “Principal,” hereby irrevocably delegates and assigns to Evelynne Masters, hereinafter referred to as the “Designee,” full and exclusive authority to make all decisions concerning the Principal’s gender expression (including but not limited to any physical alterations, whether temporary or permanent), personal appearance, and attire, encompassing clothing, grooming, and stylistic choices, for a term commencing on date signed and continuing for the term of one year, unless terminated earlier or renewed as provided herein.

The Designee shall have sole discretion to determine the appropriateness and suitability of all such decisions, and the Principal agrees to abide by and implement the Designee’s directives without reservation. Any refusal by the Principal to act on said directives, in a timely manner, shall be met with such action as said Designee deems appropriate.

The Designee reserves the right to terminate this delegation at any time with immediate effect upon written notice to the Principal.

Furthermore, the Designee may, at their sole discretion, renew this delegation for successive terms of equal duration by providing written notice to the Principal prior to the expiration of the initial or any subsequent term. This agreement shall be binding upon the Principal and may not be revoked or modified by the Principal without the express written consent of the Designee.

 

[iwatchus]

I do not know, but I would add a note to Laurel on the submission. It is painfully obvious to me that the site uses an automatic flagger then human review (if there was no human review, rejections would be near instantaneous, but we've known for a while that many of the pending delays eventually end up as AI rejections.

Who knows whether it would work, but you are enough of a known commodity and she might look at the text of the contract and say, yeah that probably caused it and send it through. At least that seems like the best shot right now.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I agree with iwatchus, a note with the submission is probably your best chance.

 

[cw5523729]

So, I've got this story that has a contract in it. The text of the contract is important to the story. I took my apartment lease and used it as a guide and came up with the following(see below) that tests as as much as 97% AI, it's legalese, go figure.

Question is, for those who know, how do I get this published?

And yes, the guy that signed this pretty much fucked himself.

No clue on how to help you but that's also not surprising. On non-erotica I've read elsewhere that virtually all legalese gets flagged as AI generated due to the fact that it doesn't sound like any normal speech. The fact that most legalese involves lots of copy-and-paste probably doesn't help either. Maybe if that's only a small section of your story/chapter it'll slide through? Pure speculation but I'd like to think that there's some sort of minimum % involved before it gets rejected.

unrelated side note: I think that's kind of funny that you were able to recycle your apartment lease into an agreement whereby your character gives up control of their gender identity

 

[iwatchus]

Hey @SimonDoom does this mean all lawyers have been replaced by AI's? Should we stop trusting anything you say?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

No clue on how to help you but that's also not surprising. On non-erotica I've read elsewhere that virtually all legalese gets flagged as AI generated due to the fact that it doesn't sound like any normal speech. The fact that most legalese involves lots of copy-and-paste probably doesn't help either. Maybe if that's only a small section of your story/chapter it'll slide through? Pure speculation but I'd like to think that there's some sort of minimum % involved before it gets rejected.

unrelated side note: I think that's kind of funny that you were able to recycle your apartment lease into an agreement whereby your character gives up control of their gender identity

A contract is a contract...

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Hey @SimonDoom does this mean all lawyers have been replaced by AI's? Should we stop trusting anything you say?

You never should have started. (Nothing against Simon personally).

A TON of lawyers have gotten nailed for court filings that have AI generated citations of cases that don't exist.

 

[TheLobster]

A forewarning to the admin would be my suggestion as well.

And make sure to add “law fetish” as a tag, because even if it didn’t exist before, you are certainly bringing it about right now.

 

[StillStunned]

Hey @SimonDoom does this mean all lawyers have been replaced by AI's? Should we stop trusting anything you say?

Worse: all AIs have been replaced by lawyers.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Worse: all AIs have been replaced by lawyers.

Shakespeare was right!

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

No clue on how to help you but that's also not surprising. On non-erotica I've read elsewhere that virtually all legalese gets flagged as AI generated due to the fact that it doesn't sound like any normal speech. The fact that most legalese involves lots of copy-and-paste probably doesn't help either. Maybe if that's only a small section of your story/chapter it'll slide through? Pure speculation but I'd like to think that there's some sort of minimum % involved before it gets rejected.

unrelated side note: I think that's kind of funny that you were able to recycle your apartment lease into an agreement whereby your character gives up control of their gender identity

I'm clever and sometimes highly focused on gender identity.

The particular clause had to do with having a pet. Kind of weirdly appropriate...

 

[SimonDoom]

Shakespeare was right!

Shakespeare's quote is widely taken out of context and misused.

The line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" is spoken by a villain. His intentions are not good.

Properly understood, the line means that if you want to take control the first thing to do is get rid of the lawyers who will stand in the way by upholding legal processes against excessive power.

 

[WittyUserName]

A forewarning to the admin would be my suggestion as well.

And make sure to add “law fetish” as a tag, because even if it didn’t exist before, you are certainly bringing it about right now.

Well, if it exists it's someone's fetish; no exceptions. Still, that's a disturbing one. And I always advocate for no kink shaming.

Also, I agree with the others; all you can really do is leave a note to the admin.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

So, I've got this story that has a contract in it. The text of the contract is important to the story. I took my apartment lease and used it as a guide and came up with the following(see below) that tests as as much as 97% AI, it's legalese, go figure.

Question is, for those who know, how do I get this published?

And yes, the guy that signed this pretty much fucked himself.

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DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY: The undersigned, James Granger, hereinafter referred to as the “Principal,” hereby irrevocably delegates and assigns to Evelynne Masters, hereinafter referred to as the “Designee,” full and exclusive authority to make all decisions concerning the Principal’s gender expression (including but not limited to any physical alterations, whether temporary or permanent), personal appearance, and attire, encompassing clothing, grooming, and stylistic choices, for a term commencing on date signed and continuing for the term of one year, unless terminated earlier or renewed as provided herein.

The Designee shall have sole discretion to determine the appropriateness and suitability of all such decisions, and the Principal agrees to abide by and implement the Designee’s directives without reservation. Any refusal by the Principal to act on said directives, in a timely manner, shall be met with such action as said Designee deems appropriate.

The Designee reserves the right to terminate this delegation at any time with immediate effect upon written notice to the Principal.

Furthermore, the Designee may, at their sole discretion, renew this delegation for successive terms of equal duration by providing written notice to the Principal prior to the expiration of the initial or any subsequent term. This agreement shall be binding upon the Principal and may not be revoked or modified by the Principal without the express written consent of the Designee.

You state that the contract tests as 97% AI, but that percentage doesn't take into account the remaining content of the story. Depending upon how many words are involved in total, the percentage could eventually fall below the threshold for rejection.

I have a work in progress with a Non-Disclosure agreement in it. I haven't run that through an AI detector but I do know that it will be a relatively small percentage of the story's total number of words, so I'm not worried about it.

 

[SamanthaBehgs]

I know hearing the same thing over and over again might not feel helpful, but I agree with everyone else, a note to the admin can do wonders.

But here's what I have to add: The automated system flagged my first story (well, a How To) for bad dialogue punctuation and formatting. It was clearly a standardized message rather than a human review. Especially since there was no dialogue in my How To. Instead, I used quotation marks to indicate that a particular word was selected intentionally (I said "harm" on purpose rather than "hurt.")

I resubmitted without a single edit, added a note, and it was published within days. This was in August right when the delays in publication were ramping up as well (although not when they seem to have hit a tipping point for many in AH). I just wanted to add this experience so you don't think you're guaranteeing you'll end up in pending Hell as a result.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Shakespeare's quote is widely taken out of context and misused.

The line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" is spoken by a villain. His intentions are not good.

Properly understood, the line means that if you want to take control the first thing to do is get rid of the lawyers who will stand in the way by upholding legal processes against excessive power.

Buzzkill.

 

[PennyThompson]

When I wrote a story that included excerpts of the MC's graduate thesis on monsterfucking, including abstract and real citations, I had a similar concern.

I included a Note to Laurel saying something like, "I'm worried that the thesis sections of this are very formal and academic and might end up triggering any AI detectors in use, but I attest that I wrote it all myself," and I didn't have any trouble!

(past performance is not a guarantee of future results)

 

[crookedletter]

I would really hope you can get that through, that's a great device for a story.

Let us know how it goes, I'd be curious to know what happens.

 

[PennyThompson]

but also... Gender as a Literal Social Contract!!

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I would really hope you can get that through, that's a great device for a story.

Let us know how it goes, I'd be curious to know what happens.

Only happy endings in my little corner of the universe(mostly) so...

 

[Bramblethorn]

Shakespeare's quote is widely taken out of context and misused.

The line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" is spoken by a villain. His intentions are not good.

Properly understood, the line means that if you want to take control the first thing to do is get rid of the lawyers who will stand in the way by upholding legal processes against excessive power.

Echoed in "A Man For All Seasons":

"So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!"

"Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?"

"Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!"

"Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"

 

[XerXesXu]

So, I've got this story that has a contract in it. The text of the contract is important to the story. I took my apartment lease and used it as a guide and came up with the following(see below) that tests as as much as 97% AI, it's legalese, go figure.

Question is, for those who know, how do I get this published?

And yes, the guy that signed this pretty much fucked himself.

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DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY: The undersigned, James Granger, hereinafter referred to as the “Principal,” hereby irrevocably delegates and assigns to Evelynne Masters, hereinafter referred to as the “Designee,” full and exclusive authority to make all decisions concerning the Principal’s gender expression (including but not limited to any physical alterations, whether temporary or permanent), personal appearance, and attire, encompassing clothing, grooming, and stylistic choices, for a term commencing on date signed and continuing for the term of one year, unless terminated earlier or renewed as provided herein.

The Designee shall have sole discretion to determine the appropriateness and suitability of all such decisions, and the Principal agrees to abide by and implement the Designee’s directives without reservation. Any refusal by the Principal to act on said directives, in a timely manner, shall be met with such action as said Designee deems appropriate.

The Designee reserves the right to terminate this delegation at any time with immediate effect upon written notice to the Principal.

Furthermore, the Designee may, at their sole discretion, renew this delegation for successive terms of equal duration by providing written notice to the Principal prior to the expiration of the initial or any subsequent term. This agreement shall be binding upon the Principal and may not be revoked or modified by the Principal without the express written consent of the Designee.

Write out your agreement in your own natural language; it's not boilerplate that makes a contract binding, and such a contract would not be binding anyway, as tending to slavery.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Write out your agreement in your own natural language; it's not boilerplate that makes a contract binding, and such a contract would not be binding anyway, as tending to slavery.

Except the character in the story that wrote the contract is lawyer... And to your last point, this is FICTION...

 

[Writer61]

You never should have started. (Nothing against Simon personally).

A TON of lawyers have gotten nailed for court filings that have AI generated citations of cases that don't exist.

That is a completely different scenario.

 

[XerXesXu]

Except the character in the story that wrote the contract is lawyer... And to your last point, this is FICTION...

Lawyers speak in natural language also. They're quite playful and can outline their expectations of a fictional relationship in entertaining and engaging ways.