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SamanthaBehgs said:
When I was replying to the comment about coding to add a whitelist, I was definitely distinguishing between the two as you mention. There seemed to be some implying that maybe (not certainly, just conjecture) some of the glitches could be explained by going from that manual whitelist (personally adding names to something and then watching for those names) to an automated one (like you describe for comments) where the system does that without any human involvement.

I disagree that it is unrealistic for it to be entirely in someone's head, however. You'd be amazed how well someone good at remembering and recognizing names can do that sort of thing. I suck at it, and I still can manage to remember and write personalized recommendation letters for students I haven't seen in half a decade or more. Like, for real, I've been tested, I suck at names. If I can still do that, I presume someone who is good at them (no clue where Laurel stands) probably could do it. That being said, a manual white list could also be in an excel document that you check against. it's not automated, but you've offloaded the memory requirements as well.

I have no idea if either exist, but my comments on whether I care if they do have been moved to the controversial opinions thread.

So for here, you don't need correcting - you've characterized what I said perfectly.
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There is a pretty big difference between students you actually worked with for an extended period of time, and filtering through hundreds of made up screen names for people you've never met and only know from skimming their stories.
 
AwkwardMD said:
I wish you would use more names and fewer pronouns. Some of this applies to me, but not all of it, and so it is impossible to respond to.
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Holy smokes. I also think my "reading too fast for my brain to keep up eyes" have also been confusing the two of you! Now I gotta go re-read the whole thread to pull apart who said what because at times I was quite confused.
 
Kelliezgirl said:
There is a pretty big difference between students you actually worked with for an extended period of time, and filtering through hundreds of made up screen names for people you've never met and only know from skimming their stories.
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Not when you teach 200-400 student classes online there isn't. I get them for 15 weeks a lot of the time in a large impersonal group. How do I know them? Their participation in chat, showing up in office hours, and the emails they send. That's really it.
 
AwkwardMD said:
I wish you would use more names and fewer pronouns. Some of this applies to me, but not all of it, and so it is impossible to respond to.
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I wish I could. It's not a matter of naming names; it's that there are so many people who fit in here, as different as they all are. So I kinda lump them all together, even if it's not really accurate.

It might surprise you, but I didn't really have you in mind here. Sure, you're a vehement defender of Lit, but you are refreshingly direct with your opinions most of the time, even if I don't agree with some of them, especially when it comes to the way Lit works.
But I also don't think your empathy for those who are having problems is false. The time you invest in helping some of those cases speaks for itself.
You even admitted your bias towards Lit, because this place means a lot to you.

No, regardless of the positions you're defending, it's not you who I had in mind in my posts. You are like... an honest adversary when it comes to topics about what Lit is and what it should be.
 
AwkwardlySet said:
I wish I could. It's not a matter of naming names; it's that there are so many people who fit in here, as different as they all are. So I kinda lump them all together, even if it's not really accurate.

It might surprise you, but I didn't really have you in mind here. Sure, you're a vehement defender of Lit, but you are refreshingly direct with your opinions most of the time, even if I don't agree with some of them, especially when it comes to the way Lit works.
But I also don't think your empathy for those who are having problems is false. The time you invest in helping some of those cases speaks for itself.
You even admitted your bias towards Lit, because this place means a lot to you.

No, regardless of the positions you're defending, it's not you who I had in mind in my posts. You are like... an honest adversary when it comes to topics about what Lit is and what it should be.
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Thank you for that. I do try to conduct myself even handedly, even if I'm not always successful.
 
SamanthaBehgs said:
Not when you teach 200-400 student classes online there isn't. I get them for 15 weeks a lot of the time in a large impersonal group. How do I know them? Their participation in chat, showing up in office hours, and the emails they send. That's really it.
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Which is still far more contact than Laurel has with any of the thousands of authors here, inspite of what some people would have you believe.
 
It seems to me that one purpose of an automated whitelist (even if you had to add entries to it manually) would be Laurel not even having to look.

Contrariwise, if stories are completely auto-approved, how does she pick the "E" winners?

--Annie
 
TheWritingGroup said:
It seems to me that one purpose of an automated whitelist (even if you had to add entries to it manually) would be Laurel not even having to look.

Contrariwise, if stories are completely auto-approved, how does she pick the "E" winners?

--Annie
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I'm not sure if anyone can remember the last "E", it was quite some time ago.
 
AwkwardMD said:
I've had two dozen PMs with Laurel over 11+ years after maybe three dozen attempts to ask her something, and I bet I'm so far above the average that I might as well be a star in the sky.
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Probably true, but there are people here who like to imply they are pals with her.
 
It’s kinda hilarious when people definitively make sweeping statements based on zero personal knowledge, and which confidently dismiss what other people actually know about this place, based on actual convos with the owners. But I guess here is a reflection of the modern world, or at least the American part of it. Opinions matter, facts don’t.

Pick and chose who you listen to people!
 
AwkwardlySet said:
I'm gonna be unpopular and say that Robert Plant was the worst part of Led Zeppelin for me. God, I hated his voice. Well, as a songwriter, he was fine, but as a singer...
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I'm a complete idiot. I was trying to reference the way CSI: Miami used stingers before commercial break that involved David Caruso delivering a pun over Roger Daltry screaming YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH!!!
 
EmilyMiller said:
It’s kinda hilarious when people definitively make sweeping statements based on zero personal knowledge, and which confidently dismiss what other people actually know about this place, based on actual convos with the owners. But I guess here is a reflection of the modern world, or at least the American part of it. Opinions matter, facts don’t.

Pick and chose who you listen to people!
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Well, in the words of Ronald Reagan, "Trust but verify".
As soon as I see someone provide any actual evidence that they are having long meaningful conversations with @Laurel about the inner workings of this site then I'll take them more seriously.
Until then, I'm going to hold to the opinion that EVERYONE is just speculating.
 
AwkwardMD said:
I'm a complete idiot. I was trying to reference the way CSI: Miami used stingers before commercial break that involved David Caruso delivering a pun over Roger Daltry screaming YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH!!!
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But but... except for the hair, they look nothing alike. How in the world did you mix them up?
 
Kelliezgirl said:
I'm not sure if anyone can remember the last "E", it was quite some time ago.
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Well, I remember one in late July that FrancesScott got, but I'm not sure if that counts as it was an article about HTML formatting a story for publishing here rather than being an actual story.

I'm not sure if I've ever seen another.
 
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