An Idea but how could it continue

surferchick88

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Hey and hello,
well asking the community for help. Got an Initial Idea of a story but my mind making turns in how it could continue.

The Idea is about a Weeding Weekend (or maybe Wednesday to Sunday) in an out of town Hotel and City. The Heroine is a yound twenty something District Attorney who's best childhood friend get to marry. The Problem is not the husband but some of the invited guests of the husband which turns out some Mob Bosses and big numbers in Red Light Area especially in Strip Clubs and so on.
So the heroine has a killer Body and killer looks. Also got a past working the pole in College. But now this is past and she tries to get these guys behind bars.
Unfortunatly these guys know she is the enemy but they also think she would be a good addition for their clubs without knowing (yet) her past.

So the question is what would these guys do. My Ideas were from using maybe cousins, over try to seduce her towards open speak about porn business in her near.
Well they are all privat here and i don't restrict to anything. Mean as possible. So, need help here in plotting... Ideas are welcome.
Thanks ins advance.

Kaddy
 
Hey and hello,
well asking the community for help. Got an Initial Idea of a story but my mind making turns in how it could continue.

The Idea is about a Weeding Weekend (or maybe Wednesday to Sunday) in an out of town Hotel and City. The Heroine is a yound twenty something District Attorney who's best childhood friend get to marry. The Problem is not the husband but some of the invited guests of the husband which turns out some Mob Bosses and big numbers in Red Light Area especially in Strip Clubs and so on.
So the heroine has a killer Body and killer looks. Also got a past working the pole in College. But now this is past and she tries to get these guys behind bars.
Unfortunatly these guys know she is the enemy but they also think she would be a good addition for their clubs without knowing (yet) her past.

So the question is what would these guys do. My Ideas were from using maybe cousins, over try to seduce her towards open speak about porn business in her near.
Well they are all privat here and i don't restrict to anything. Mean as possible. So, need help here in plotting... Ideas are welcome.
Thanks ins advance.

Kaddy
what about a good old fashioned kidnapping? As long as you rescue her later, it is allowed on Lit to have her jeopardy.
 
Well my idea was more that they manage to get herself in trouble. Drunk or sober. She thinks she is in control and could provocate. But not
 
If she has left "working the pole" truly behind her, then this path is not available to you.

The kidnapping is a possible way, but then? You would need the miracle change of mind to "I want to be a whore after all," to keep things moving. Possible, but too predictable.

You mentioned the pole. This is a token that can and should be used. So the idea that comes to my mind is that she might use these skills to go to investigate.

Then you need to explain why those guys should go behind bars. Operating a strip club is not illegal. So they must be under investigation for some illegal activity.

How is the old friend and her husband involved in this? After all the old friend probably knows the heroine is now enforcing law. But she might not know and only find out just before the wedding. Does the mmarrying friend know that her guests are involved in illegal activities? Many options here that you can use as a plot device to solidify your story.

Alternative plot pathes:
  1. Wedding girl (Wendy) knows husband is connected to red-light figures, but does not assume anything illegal. So she happily invites both the heroine (Atta) and the red-light district boss (Hawk) along with his minions. Hawk does not know Atta and the real reason he is there is to get Wendy into his net with the help of the wedding. Wendy and Atta talk and Wendy goes undercover for her because Atta might be recognized. She connects with Hawk using Wendy as a proxy in the club. Then they bring down Hawk and Wendy lives with hubby happily ever after.
  2. It is not the wedding but the engagement. Wendy has some doubts about her future husband and invited Atta to learn about him. Atta knows Hawk is a criminal but the future husband's role is unclear. So Wendy and Atta join forces in a race to find out about hubby and to get Hawk to jail before the wedding. Maybe husband is an ok guy but has some obligations to Hawk, which he intends to settle by sending them Atta.
  3. Atta kind of invites herself to the wedding because she wants to get close to Hawk. But make Hawk not a brute, rather a sophisticated guy that Atta gets infatuated with. In a weak moment, they slip away and Atta has sex with Hawk, which compromises her investigations.
  4. Or Atta and Hawk don't know each other yet. Hawk is the husband, but has no intention of staying true to Wendy. So he fucks Atta right at the Wedding. The next morning, Atta finds out she has to investigate the man whom she slept with the night before and who is a extremely good lover.
If you decide on the ending, i.e. does Atta get Hawk behind bars, or does she get entangled in the red-light district maybe starting a double-life. Then decide on which side hubby is on and find a role for him. Same for Wendy.
 
Thanks for your ideas so far.... well sure i should need to tell you my possible wished outcome.
You are right that owning a strip club is not illegal but there are always lot of businesses beside which are illegal. So usually in my mind these owners are some rough mob related guys. Who are using and abusing these girls for the activities... So our heroine truly don't like them and maybe tried to find a way to put them behind bars....
The way i mentioned she had a past with the pole is, cause i want her in the end fall in the net of these evil guys... So she play with fire and get burned. Provocates a bit too much and maybe foced or pressured to proofe certain things... The fact shouldn't be known in the beginning but turly one ore two persons should know this... and poeple talk when drunk and sometimes the wrong people hear things...
The thing about the wedding is that they meet there without knowing that they would meet. And no one can leave easy as in a bar. Especally if this event takes more days they have to cross path. Also was thinking that the bachelor party could also be part of this (longer) weekend session.
My thinking goes in many directions... just can't find a good resonable one
 
Not sure if I understood the premise entirely, but it got my thinking along these lines..
The female main character either owns the bar or has rented it for some big event.
Then the unwanted criminal elements show up, and it looks like they will ruin the big weekend for her.
She tries to play smart and trick them into an agreement where they leave if she beats them in some kind of competition (pool, darts, drinking, poledancing?). She thinks her background has her well prepared for it.
They agree, but require concessions from her if she looses - she's over-confident and desperate, so she agrees...

That way, you have a reason for her playing with fire, and you can build tension around both the outcome of the competition and whether the criminals will stick to the agreement if they lose (and whether she will, if they win)
 
So the heroine has a killer Body and killer looks.

Quelle surprise.. so utterly unpredictable!

Let me guess... the male characters all look like clones of Cruise, Pitt and Clooney..?

Yawn, yawn and, dare I say... yawn..?
 
Then you need to explain why those guys should go behind bars. Operating a strip club is not illegal. So they must be under investigation for some illegal activity.
Maybe it's a front for some other illegal business. Prostitution? Numbers? Something worse?
 
Quelle surprise.. so utterly unpredictable!
Of course a trope, but if she were ugly they would not try to enlist her for the club. Whether it makes the reader yawn depends on how this fact is presented. If it is just stated then I see no problem. If it starts with an elaboration of all her features, as it appears in many stories, then it would be boring indeed. And an attorney who uses a wedding to shed her business attire in favour of a feminine presentation is plausible.
 
Think 'Our Family Honor' with Eli Wallach, Michael Madsen and Tom Mason.

One side of the family good, the other not.

The DA is out to get the bad side. They don't know about her past, but the members of the Organized Crime Task Force do and work it out with the legal system to allow herself to be drawn in by the Mob side. She goes undercover by getting uncovered and back to the pole she knows so well.
 
She thinks she is being sneaky, escaping her past so she goes to get married as the mob bosses have a rule: no married pole dancers. But her new husband knows. A hobby woodworker, he makes a big contest wheel and at the reception he reveals it. She has to spin it and whatever it lands on, she must do.

Set into a pie chart with studs and a spring indicator; none of the options are good, but if she is to pay off the mob bosses for a previous loan for a lot of money, she must do it... pole dancing/street walking/glory hole/bordello/escort these are the possible items she could spin the wheel onto. None are great, but if she wants a life with her new husband without fear of reprisals, this is what she must do...

But the wheel can be anything for sex, but what does she spin on? Her wedding night spent pole dancing? Her wedding night walking the streets for sex with some unknown stranger?
 
Of course a trope, but if she were ugly they would not try to enlist her for the club. Whether it makes the reader yawn depends on how this fact is presented. If it is just stated then I see no problem. If it starts with an elaboration of all her features, as it appears in many stories, then it would be boring indeed. And an attorney who uses a wedding to shed her business attire in favour of a feminine presentation is plausible.

Sorry... I would read what you've put but the yawning just gets in the way.. .

Seriously, this is not merely a 'trope' but a mega or even hypertrope in respect of 'authors' on here. A huge failing leading to the almost instant torpedoing of verisimilitude with the great majority of thinking people.

Oh, for a few decent girl next door scenarios. A lost cause, it seems.
 
Sorry... I would read what you've put but the yawning just gets in the way.. .

Seriously, this is not merely a 'trope' but a mega or even hypertrope in respect of 'authors' on here. A huge failing leading to the almost instant torpedoing of verisimilitude with the great majority of thinking people.

Oh, for a few decent girl next door scenarios. A lost cause, it seems.
what about a few indecent girl next door scenarios?
 
The idea of compromat or blackmail seems likely. Set up 'questionable' situations & film & edit for greatest impact. Perhaps drugging her food/drinks (bonus points if it's in the wedding cake somehow!) and using her reduced capabilities as part of that setup.

Financial blackmail could be used, too - she gets random deposits from unknown accounts, and only after a while does she realize the balance is too high. A nice high-price lawyer gets in touch and lets her know that the deposits were made after some of her 'failures' of the justice system, people getting out on technicalities that she was barely involved in, but over time a pattern can be made. This doesn't even have to be an account she knows of - they set one up 'offshore' (Cayman Islands, for ex) and use her info, only getting her the account info after enough 'evidence' has been manufactured.

Physical force and various forms of conditioning are another potential avenue, assuming these folks have ties outside that nation's reach. Middle East is a classic, but the Far East, Eastern Europe, and many parts of South America may also work. The 'uberwealthy's private island' trope may work for you, alternately.

Good luck - I look forward to what you write!
 
what about a few indecent girl next door scenarios?
I'll second that. However...
... three syllables and therefore out of reach of the type of author to whom I was alluding. I confess to getting carried away with 'scenarios'.
 
I'll second that. However...
... three syllables and therefore out of reach of the type of author to whom I was alluding. I confess to getting carried away with 'scenarios'.
some of the best ideas are scenarios . Some of the best scenarios are ideas. Carry on carrying on.
 
I would avoid some obstacles. Yes they are "the enemy." They are only that in court. It is not her job to gather evidence, or clasp them in chains. She can easily naturally meet with them, unable to do anything more than toast with them. They aren't doing anything wrong there, and they are free men until proven otherwise. These particular people might not be in her court, or so far only suspect without anything that would land them in court.

The second is her past. Her past would be heavily scrutinized, both by people on her side and the other side. It would be difficult not to be recognised as a pole dancer at one point, which could harm her career. So instead have her do it as a sport. It is a very tough sport that trains most of the body, and is more and more available as a non-erotic activity. This opens doors for them to know, as she could show her skills on the pole with a more innocent mindset. It can be as innocent as a friend pointing out something that looks vaguely like a pole, and she effortlessly shows a move or two.

Thanks to the unprofessional nature of the event the mobsters can easily come up and talk to her. Enemy or not, both sides are social creatures. They can have small talk. Not to mention they can get something from each other. She can get insight, maybe even have them betray some part of their organisation by accident, while they see a woman with power that could be corrupted or destroyed.

She starts talking about why they do it, and without confessing or incriminating themselves, a skill learned by each over the years, they talk about the boons. The power. The riches. Maybe also as a family business. A to them legitimate way to earn money, just not on the right side of the law. Drugs wouldn't be a problem if there was no market to it. They just supply, while never coercing someone to take it. It is all free will by people deciding to take it, and they provide. That kind of stuff. Wrap such things up in non committal speech, like "offering entertainment," and they can walk out if there without incriminating themselves.

They can talk about the legitimate side of the business as well, like the pole dancing. The amount of money someone like her could make with those moves for just a short evening.

After that they can start to corrupt her. Just getting her on the pole as a treat for the guests to show her impressive skills. As someone who wants to be noticed fir her achievements and the late party dhe can't resist.

I would then have then talk into her, slowly corrupting her to do more salacious things, while also trying to convince her to join them. A case she has on her desk could accidentally have some tiny piece of evidence smudged by ink, or lost, right? For an absurd amount of money. At the same time they blur the lines, convincing her that the lines or crime might have been drawn incorrectly. She sees the truly nice people who are a tight nit family, showing her that they might not be all that bad. Even if some things like drug peddling are a crime.
 
Quelle surprise.. so utterly unpredictable!

Let me guess... the male characters all look like clones of Cruise, Pitt and Clooney..?

Yawn, yawn and, dare I say... yawn..?
First off, I agree with you. On the other hand, we'll not get anywhere if we just bash this type of writing. We need to he constructive.

I would offer surferchick88 that the beauty is implied. It doesn't have to be big, like her doing a move on the pole and everybody going absolutely nuts. Simple language like her telling it looks like a pole she used to dance in, then someone responding with that he would really have liked to see that. It implies she has everything to have people desire her on that pole. Or mention how her boyfriend used to love her dancing.

It is a "show don't tell" move. You can hammer down on having a killer body, but it only becomes true if it affects others. If it affects others, you can often leave out the description.
 
First off, I agree with you. On the other hand, we'll not get anywhere if we just bash this type of writing. We need to he constructive.

Oh, I don't know. Sometimes a good bit of bashing is what a body needs to shake him/her out of the world of tawdry clichés in which he/she would otherwise continue to reside.
 
some of the best ideas are scenarios . Some of the best scenarios are ideas. Carry on carrying on.

Very droll... which alters not the fact that I was simply referring to the number of syllables in 'scenarios'...
 
Oh, I don't know. Sometimes a good bit of bashing is what a body needs to shake him/her out of the world of tawdry clichés in which he/she would otherwise continue to reside.
Yeah that is ture. Though they are more inclined to let go of it if you give a new blueprint to them to build with. Otherwise you have torn down their idea, but all they have is still that wrong blueprint to build with.
 
Yeah that is ture. Though they are more inclined to let go of it if you give a new blueprint to them to build with. Otherwise you have torn down their idea, but all they have is still that wrong blueprint to build with...
... and also perhaps a vague feeling, finally, that something in what they were doing was wrong. Halleluya... maybe one or two might just see the error of their ways..? If you for your part want to forever spoon feed or do other people's thinking for them, you go right ahead. Personally, I passed that tolerance mark thirty years ago last Tuesday.
 
First off, I agree with you. On the other hand, we'll not get anywhere if we just bash this type of writing. We need to he constructive.

I would offer surferchick88 that the beauty is implied. It doesn't have to be big, like her doing a move on the pole and everybody going absolutely nuts. Simple language like her telling it looks like a pole she used to dance in, then someone responding with that he would really have liked to see that. It implies she has everything to have people desire her on that pole. Or mention how her boyfriend used to love her dancing.

It is a "show don't tell" move. You can hammer down on having a killer body, but it only becomes true if it affects others. If it affects others, you can often leave out the description.
Well I was also thinking that someone could mention it, as there are other people who knew it. So it gets to the wrong pair of ears... I like the show don't tell approach...
 
I would avoid some obstacles. Yes they are "the enemy." They are only that in court. It is not her job to gather evidence, or clasp them in chains. She can easily naturally meet with them, unable to do anything more than toast with them. They aren't doing anything wrong there, and they are free men until proven otherwise. These particular people might not be in her court, or so far only suspect without anything that would land them in court.

The second is her past. Her past would be heavily scrutinized, both by people on her side and the other side. It would be difficult not to be recognised as a pole dancer at one point, which could harm her career. So instead have her do it as a sport. It is a very tough sport that trains most of the body, and is more and more available as a non-erotic activity. This opens doors for them to know, as she could show her skills on the pole with a more innocent mindset. It can be as innocent as a friend pointing out something that looks vaguely like a pole, and she effortlessly shows a move or two.

Thanks to the unprofessional nature of the event the mobsters can easily come up and talk to her. Enemy or not, both sides are social creatures. They can have small talk. Not to mention they can get something from each other. She can get insight, maybe even have them betray some part of their organisation by accident, while they see a woman with power that could be corrupted or destroyed.

She starts talking about why they do it, and without confessing or incriminating themselves, a skill learned by each over the years, they talk about the boons. The power. The riches. Maybe also as a family business. A to them legitimate way to earn money, just not on the right side of the law. Drugs wouldn't be a problem if there was no market to it. They just supply, while never coercing someone to take it. It is all free will by people deciding to take it, and they provide. That kind of stuff. Wrap such things up in non committal speech, like "offering entertainment," and they can walk out if there without incriminating themselves.

They can talk about the legitimate side of the business as well, like the pole dancing. The amount of money someone like her could make with those moves for just a short evening.

After that they can start to corrupt her. Just getting her on the pole as a treat for the guests to show her impressive skills. As someone who wants to be noticed fir her achievements and the late party dhe can't resist.

I would then have then talk into her, slowly corrupting her to do more salacious things, while also trying to convince her to join them. A case she has on her desk could accidentally have some tiny piece of evidence smudged by ink, or lost, right? For an absurd amount of money. At the same time they blur the lines, convincing her that the lines or crime might have been drawn incorrectly. She sees the truly nice people who are a tight nit family, showing her that they might not be all that bad. Even if some things like drug peddling are a crime.
This is such a great answer... thank you so much... I definatly love the ideas and the way you mention.. Guess this could be a possible way to work on.
 
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