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[butters]

100k federal workers are walking out tomorrow.

The total number of expected departures through the delayed resignation and voluntary separation programs, attrition, and early retirement programs is approximately 275,000 employees, according to the spokesman.

"Federal workers stay for the mission. When that mission is taken away, when they're scapegoated, when their job security is uncertain, and when their tiny semblance of work-life balance is stripped away, they leave," a longtime Federal Emergency Management Agency employee said. "That's why I left."

Departing workers enter a weakening job market. The unemployment rate reached 4.3% in August 2025, the highest level since 2021, with only 22,000 jobs added amid disruptions and uncertainty at ..

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[PersonalFavors]

You're an incoherent idiot.

So we will see no one abandon their job tomorrow.

 

[DeluxAuto]

So we will see no one abandon their job tomorrow.

How the fuck would I know if they will or won't? Read what I linked and educate yourself.

 

[PersonalFavors]

100k federal workers are walking out tomorrow.

These people are not walking out. They took a package. Glad they are finally going to be gone. Lets set up the next wave of those who need to go. Even more of the organizations have not even been DOGEd. Easy another 100k if not a million that could be released there as well.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

While those scenarios list what is made and can be deducted, they do not address the cost of tariffs, borne either by the importer or the consumer. Average effective tariff rate in August is about 18%.

While the bbb provides relief on one hand, tariffs hurt the consumer on the other. And deficits are still a huge problem.

This thread is about OBBB, not tariffs. If you’re trying to suggest that the tariffs significantly negate the personal income tax savings most Americans are getting from OBBB, you’re grasping at straws.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

That would be awesome if they did. Are these "federal workers" Government Employees or Contractors? Either one will walk at their own peril. Essential employees can face all kinds of reprimands. Others will simply forfeit their jobs.

Awesome?
You are disgusting or stupid, sorry, not very well informed.
Losing your employment is a deeply personal tragedy because a job is not just a source of income but also a foundation of identity, purpose, and social connection, and the ensuing financial strain often leads to significant, long-lasting emotional and physical health declines for the worker and their family. This pain is acutely amplified in the US because the employer is the primary source of essential healthcare coverage for most people, meaning that losing a job simultaneously triggers a medical and financial catastrophe that can entirely dismantle a family's stability and wealth through crippling healthcare bills. When state services themselves are shut down, the damage shifts to the public, as essential government functions like food safety inspections are halted, passport processing is delayed, national parks and museums close, and the most vulnerable citizens face immediate cuts to critical programs like food assistance, while even the economy suffers a permanent reduction in Gross Domestic Product due to the widespread disruption of federal permits and delayed payments.

 

[PersonalFavors]

Awesome?
You are disgusting or stupid, sorry, not very well informed.
Losing your employment is a deeply personal tragedy because a job is not just a source of income but also a foundation of identity, purpose, and social connection, and the ensuing financial strain often leads to significant, long-lasting emotional and physical health declines for the worker and their family. This pain is acutely amplified in the US because the employer is the primary source of essential healthcare coverage for most people, meaning that losing a job simultaneously triggers a medical and financial catastrophe that can entirely dismantle a family's stability and wealth through crippling healthcare bills. When state services themselves are shut down, the damage shifts to the public, as essential government functions like food safety inspections are halted, passport processing is delayed, national parks and museums close, and the most vulnerable citizens face immediate cuts to critical programs like food assistance, while even the economy suffers a permanent reduction in Gross Domestic Product due to the widespread disruption of federal permits and delayed payments.

Did you read the article? These people are not losing their jobs. They chose to leave for a deal. To be honest the majority of them already left. At least all the ones I know that took the package have left. Most moved on and are double dipping. I know one who is moving his family to another state. Another that took the package and left immediately and is soon to be hired back in a better position than she left. More power and more control over direction of the department.
None of the positions where people took the package have shut down any part of government or support of state government as you claim.
[essential government functions like food safety inspections are halted, passport processing is delayed, national parks and museums close, and the most vulnerable citizens face immediate cuts to critical programs like food assistance,] Absolutely none of these things are effected. I've been visiting DC as the National Guard has eliminated all the scary people, bums and drug addicts that have been roaming those street for years. No closed museums. Passports are completed incredibly fast. Mostly because of the efficiency brought to the organization after Trump was elected. During obidens term passport processing was months behind. Much of that was done on purpose to prevent travel while other parts of the regime were enforcing illegal shots of something they claimed was a vaccine.
You seem to be quoting liberals and fake media.

 

[DeluxAuto]

These people are not walking out. They took a package. Glad they are finally going to be gone. Lets set up the next wave of those who need to go. Even more of the organizations have not even been DOGEd. Easy another 100k if not a million that could be released there as well.

You're glad about something that you're totally ignorant of.

DOGE was a massive failure.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Did you read the article? These people are not losing their jobs. They chose to leave for a deal. To be honest the majority of them already left. At least all the ones I know that took the package have left. Most moved on and are double dipping. I know one who is moving his family to another state. Another that took the package and left immediately and is soon to be hired back in a better position than she left. More power and more control over direction of the department.
None of the positions where people took the package have shut down any part of government or support of state government as you claim.
[essential government functions like food safety inspections are halted, passport processing is delayed, national parks and museums close, and the most vulnerable citizens face immediate cuts to critical programs like food assistance,] Absolutely none of these things are effected. I've been visiting DC as the National Guard has eliminated all the scary people, bums and drug addicts that have been roaming those street for years. No closed museums. Passports are completed incredibly fast. Mostly because of the efficiency brought to the organization after Trump was elected. During obidens term passport processing was months behind. Much of that was done on purpose to prevent travel while other parts of the regime were enforcing illegal shots of something they claimed was a vaccine.
You seem to be quoting liberals and fake media.

No you are wrong, I'm not watching Fox News.

 

[PersonalFavors]

No you are wrong, I'm not watching Fox News.

Neither am I.

 

[heathrowinneo]

So you have nothing but some hate papers.

Hate no, intellectual curiosity yes.

 

[heathrowinneo]

This thread is about OBBB, not tariffs. If you’re trying to suggest that the tariffs significantly negate the personal income tax savings most Americans are getting from OBBB, you’re grasping at straws.

The bbb is about taxes just as tariffs are taxes. The article gives a one dimensional look at 3 scenarios. Life isn't so simplistic.

BTW, the WSJ is in litigation with trump. Interesting timing.

 

[PersonalFavors]

Litigations are distractions. Something for liberals to talk about so they do not have to acknowledge success.

 

[heathrowinneo]

Better look at the source of the legal filings. Frivolous.

 

[PersonalFavors]

Better look at the source of the legal filings. Frivolous.

Like I said. Something for you to distract yourself with.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The bbb is about taxes just as tariffs are taxes. The article gives a one dimensional look at 3 scenarios. Life isn't so simplistic.

BTW, the WSJ is in litigation with trump. Interesting timing.

I started the thread. It’s not about any forms of taxation other than OBBB. If you want to discuss tariffs, payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc., you’re in the wrong thread.

This thread is about the OBBB and what it means to middle class taxpayers under common scenarios. They illustrate key provisions of the bill, including extending our current marginal tax rates, a higher standard deduction, social security deduction, overtime deduction, tip deduction, qualified dividends and capital gains rate reduction, and child care tax credit.

Feel free to provide OBBB scenarios of your own.

 

[heathrowinneo]

I started the thread. It’s not about any forms of taxation other than OBBB. If you want to discuss tariffs, payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc., you’re in the wrong thread.

This thread is about the OBBB and what it means to middle class taxpayers under common scenarios. They illustrate key provisions of the bill, including extending our current marginal tax rates, a higher standard deduction, social security deduction, overtime deduction, tip deduction, qualified dividends and capital gains rate reduction, and child care tax credit.

Feel free to provide OBBB scenarios of your own.

dmalllord started the thread. the bbb is about taxing and wealth transfer between classes. tariffs are a tax. the wsj provided anecdotal scenarios.

 

[heathrowinneo]

Like I said. Something for you to distract yourself with.

intellectual curiosity, try it.

 

[dmallord]

I started the thread. It’s not about any forms of taxation other than OBBB. If you want to discuss tariffs, payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc., you’re in the wrong thread.

This thread is about the OBBB and what it means to middle class taxpayers under common scenarios. They illustrate key provisions of the bill, including extending our current marginal tax rates, a higher standard deduction, social security deduction, overtime deduction, tip deduction, qualified dividends and capital gains rate reduction, and child care tax credit.

Feel free to provide OBBB scenarios of your own.

My thread tends to drift from the original proposition to explore the content and outcomes of the Republican Budget bill, billed as One Big Beautiful Bill. I started the conversation with "Let's untangle this proposal and examine the pros and cons. Below is an overview. I'd appreciate your help with other aspects. Thank you in advance."

I appreciate your input on my original list of pros and cons as the initial subject matter.

The bill is now in trouble over damages to funding health care, with catastrophic results for Americans about to be sucked down the drain over the impending costs of insurance if Republicans don't address the issue.

Tonight, at midnight, Republicans didn't take up the matter, did they? They were ordered away from their posts, leaving the halls of governance empty, and the government's funding was allowed to run dry.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

My thread tends to drift from the original proposition to explore the content and outcomes of the Republican Budget bill, billed as One Big Beautiful Bill. I started the conversation with "Let's untangle this proposal and examine the pros and cons. Below is an overview. I'd appreciate your help with other aspects. Thank you in advance."

I appreciate your input on my original list of pros and cons as the initial subject matter.

The bill is now in trouble over damages to funding health care, with catastrophic results for Americans about to be sucked down the drain over the impending costs of insurance if Republicans don't address the issue.

Tonight, at midnight, Republicans didn't take up the matter, did they? They were ordered away from their posts, leaving the halls of governance empty, and the government's funding was allowed to run dry.

It’s a clean CR, not a Medicaid bill.

 

[PersonalFavors]

My thread tends to drift from the original proposition to explore the content and outcomes of the Republican Budget bill, billed as One Big Beautiful Bill. I started the conversation with "Let's untangle this proposal and examine the pros and cons. Below is an overview. I'd appreciate your help with other aspects. Thank you in advance."

I appreciate your input on my original list of pros and cons as the initial subject matter.

The bill is now in trouble over damages to funding health care, with catastrophic results for Americans about to be sucked down the drain over the impending costs of insurance if Republicans don't address the issue.

Tonight, at midnight, Republicans didn't take up the matter, did they? They were ordered away from their posts, leaving the halls of governance empty, and the government's funding was allowed to run dry.

Not working and not retired I used the subsidy available for health coverage from the ACA. It doesn’t make sense. Obama pelosi eliminated healthcare insurance and then funded the exorbitant cost. Democrats need to fix what they broke. Spending more money on it is nonsense. Healthcare is not government funded. Healthcare has nothing to do with government funding. Get your own bill.
As for government funding run dry…. The lights are still on and the “essential employees” are hard at work. Hopefully are being asked 5 things they miss from the people that are not there. The contractors that have been working from home that are not working at all right now. Can they tell any difference? The organizations msnbc is pointing out that will be lights out during the shutdown, should they even open up after?
This shutdown spending cut could rival DOGE or BBB, but won’t come close to the tariff income.

 

[ll74]

Not working and not retired I used the subsidy available for health coverage from the ACA. It doesn’t make sense. Obama pelosi eliminated healthcare insurance and then funded the exorbitant cost. Democrats need to fix what they broke. Spending more money on it is nonsense. Healthcare is not government funded. Healthcare has nothing to do with government funding. Get your own bill.
As for government funding run dry…. The lights are still on and the “essential employees” are hard at work. Hopefully are being asked 5 things they miss from the people that are not there. The contractors that have been working from home that are not working at all right now. Can they tell any difference? The organizations msnbc is pointing out that will be lights out during the shutdown, should they even open up after?
This shutdown spending cut could rival DOGE or BBB, but won’t come close to the tariff income.

If you don't like the ACA, then repeal it legislatively.
This bullshit of not doing that and just not funding it is a complete sidestep of legislative process.

 

[PersonalFavors]

If you don't like the ACA, then repeal it legislatively.
This bullshit of not doing that and just not funding it is a complete sidestep of legislative process.

When Obama pelosi eliminated health care in the US they did not include a way to fund it. Democrats have legislated ways to fund it all along. Now we are seeing how the ACA they replaced health care with can stand on its own. It will be painful for many. I am curious to see how many simply determine they cannot afford insurance. Will it be enough that doctors income and more important hospital income decreases enough to demonstrate they are ‘for profit’ institutions? It will be painful, but this is the first time we have come to a point to legislate government out of the healthcare business. Hopefully they read the bill this time.

 

[ll74]

When Obama pelosi eliminated health care in the US they did not include a way to fund it. Democrats have legislated ways to fund it all along. Now we are seeing how the ACA they replaced health care with can stand on its own. It will be painful for many. I am curious to see how many simply determine they cannot afford insurance. Will it be enough that doctors income and more important hospital income decreases enough to demonstrate they are ‘for profit’ institutions? It will be painful, but this is the first time we have come to a point to legislate government out of the healthcare business. Hopefully they read the bill this time.

If you don't like the ACA, then repeal it legislatively.
This bullshit of not doing that and just not funding it is a complete sidestep of legislative process.

Not funding something isn't a.legislative process of removing a law. That would be repeal. Either repeal it or fund it.

 

[dmallord]

It’s a clean CR, not a Medicaid bill.

Go ahead, then feel free to ignore the health crisis that results. Feel better?