Wat’s Carbon Water-N-Stuff Thread - Concepts In Iron And Wood!!!

[DeluxAuto]

A Rapey meltdown in tWat's ammosexual thread?

Goddamn, Christmas came early this year.

More like Chanukkah because it happens for more than one day.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Are you jealous that you don't get likes from Wat?

It quotes Wat so Wat gets reactions from it at its expense.


Wat gives it nothing.


Like a stray dog, it comes back for more and continues to receive nothing.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

And a Genocidal Maniac sighting.



Allah truly is beneficent what with all of his manifold blessings and great mercies.

 

[HisArpy]

Just trying to bring more civility to what Governor Cox called the "cancer" of social media. Sorry if you do not agree to tone down the rhetoric.

You and Wat are free to act like adolescent schoolboys and call other posters "pussies".

There is a difference between being disagreeable and having a disagreement.

I disagree with your ideology and false narratives.

You're just disagreeable.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

There is a difference between being disagreeable and having a disagreement.

I disagree with your ideology and false narratives.

You're just disagreeable.

I misread "disagreeable."


I got excited for a nanosecond but now I'm sad . . . .

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Yes, thanks for this request. I will gladly explain my statement that the right wing in the USA has accelerated both gun proliferation and gun obsession in this country.

This is a trend that has been taking place for over two decades, ever since the 1994 Clinton ban on high capacity semi automatic rifles lapsed in 2024 and was not renewed.

Since then, relatively unfettered access to all sorts of guns and high capacity magazines has proliferated in the USA, as well as a loosening of laws and enforcement of laws related to access to weapons and ammo that had historically been mostly used in military and law enforcement domains. Gun sales boomed, as did the incidence of gun-related homicides and suicides.

Republicans consistently blocked attempts by Democrats to moderate this trend, and a culture of gun obsession developed within right-wing politics. It became a key part of the GOP political base. The USA now has more privately owned guns and more gun related violence than any other developed nation in the world.

Gun violence is now the number two cause of death for children in the USA, thus qualifying it for epidemic status.

You can nitpick over various details, as gun-obsessed people tend to do, but the trend is obvious-- the USA leads the world in gun-related violence.

You conveniently ignore the history of firearms and how they helped us develop as a nation as a way to push your weak point. That aside, here is some Data you might want to read. It’s more nuanced than you’ll ever admit, but there it is. There are many reasons, but some correlation is when a Radicalized democrat wins, gun sales go up. The largest year ever was 2020. Over half were first time owners. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for your side.

You mentioned gun laws. If you include all federal, state, and county laws across the country, the number is north of 20K on the books. I don’t see a lawmaker problem in this instance, they’ve been quite prolific. I do see an enforcement issue. You say “unfettered” access. Tell us the difference between buying a gun in 1985 and 2025 for a long gun?

I get the feeling your definition of unfettered is wildly different than mine.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You conveniently ignore the history of firearms and how they helped us develop as a nation as a way to push your weak point. That aside, here is some Data you might want to read. It’s more nuanced than you’ll ever admit, but there it is. There are many reasons, but some correlation is when a Radicalized democrat wins, gun sales go up. The largest year ever was 2020. Over half were first time owners. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for your side.

You mentioned gun laws. If you include all federal, state, and county laws across the country, the number is north of 20K on the books. I don’t see a lawmaker problem in this instance, they’ve been quite prolific. I do see an enforcement issue. You say “unfettered” access. Tell us the difference between buying a gun in 1985 and 2025 for a long gun?

I get the feeling your definition of unfettered is wildly different than mine.

When the gun laws were made, high caliber hand cannons didn't exist. No one was doing drive-by shootings with muskets in horse-drawn carriages.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I decided to tie into cleaning and redoing the old Winchester I bought earlier this summer. The bore cleaned right up and all seems to be well with all of the mechanics. The stock that came with it has some splits in it, so I looked for something new(er) online, perhaps with less foofoo, like no comb and no checkered bits. Damn if I didn't find the exact same stock (it must have been factory), brand spanking new, for cheaper than could be ignored.


Thank Allah for unfettered access and being able to circumvent the background check . . . .

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[DeluxAuto]

Thank Allah for unfettered access and being able to circumvent the background check . . . .

Another psycho with unfettered access to firearms.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

When the gun laws were made, high caliber hand cannons didn't exist. No one was doing drive-by shootings with muskets in horse-drawn carriages.

Yes they did simpleton. Jesus, how old are you? The “hand cannons” most certainly existed.

Edit: I didn’t see the last portion…yeah, probably not much in the way of drive by’s in a carriage but it happened. Ever watch Tombstone? I’m here to help ya D. Big bore legend and lore.

Others probably have a better historical perspective, I’ll let them chime in if they see fit.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Yes they did simpleton. Jesus, how old are you? The “hand cannons” most certainly existed.

Edit: I didn’t see the last portion…yeah, probably not much in the way of drive by’s in a carriage but it happened. Ever watch Tombstone? I’m here to help ya D. Big bore legend and lore.

Others probably have a better historical perspective, I’ll let them chime in if they see fit.

I'm talking Dirty Harry style, dipshit. I know you're old but I didn't think you went to school with Wyatt fucking Earp.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

The .44 (Dirty’s cannon) was introduced in the 50’s I think. The platform it was based on was from the 30’s. The point being, big bore pistols have been around for a long time. Some of these coincided w some gun laws. My state has had some on the books for over 100 yrs.

You can piss and moan about the “tool” but the weak minded Tranny’s that have committed 5 of the last high profile shootings and the drugs they were on aren’t even part of your equation now are they? It sure looks like assassination #6 is Tranny related also…

 

[Wat_Tyler]

The Walker Colt had nearly as much ass and was about the same bore as a S&W model 29 and it came out a hundred years before it.


And before all gun laws of any note.


And it had a trigger, too . . . .

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Was a great week for the 2A in America.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

The .44 (Dirty’s cannon) was introduced in the 50’s I think. The platform it was based on was from the 30’s. The point being, big bore pistols have been around for a long time. Some of these coincided w some gun laws. My state has had some on the books for over 100 yrs.

You can piss and moan about the “tool” but the weak minded Tranny’s that have committed 5 of the last high profile shootings and the drugs they were on aren’t even part of your equation now are they? It sure looks like assassination #6 is Tranny related also…

Don't blame Ms wat for the shootings.

 

[HisArpy]

The Walker Colt had nearly as much ass and was about the same bore as a S&W model 29 and it came out a hundred years before it.


And before all gun laws of any note.


And it had a trigger, too . . . .

The main problem with the Walker Colt is that it was so dam heavy you couldn't carry it, let alone 2. Which is what you needed since reloading was slower than molasses sliding down a glacier in the middle of winter.

It's why it was called a Horse Pistol and there were custom holsters for them which fit over the pommel of a saddle.

The new Colt Army/Navy was almost as powerful and a lot lighter. It could also be loaded faster with a cylinder swap so you didn't need to carry more than 1. Paired with a repeating carbine, your only real issue was having enough ammo on you instead of packed on your mule which was dead and 50 yds away across open ground.

Once the SAA came around in 1877, and was paired with the 1866 Yellow Boy, it became the standard self defense arsenal. It was only topped by the Double Action revolver 10 years later in 1887.


I've always wanted a Dragoon but the price tag on an original is out of my comfort zone.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

“You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by your anger.”

~ Siddhārtha Gautama





“Conquer the angry one by not getting angry; conquer the wicked by goodness; conquer the stingy by generosity, and the liar by speaking the truth. [Verse 223]”

~ Siddhārtha Gautama, The Dhammapada

 

[Wat_Tyler]

The main problem with the Walker Colt is that it was so dam heavy you couldn't carry it, let alone 2. Which is what you needed since reloading was slower than molasses sliding down a glacier in the middle of winter.

It's why it was called a Horse Pistol and there were custom holsters for them which fit over the pommel of a saddle.

The new Colt Army/Navy was almost as powerful and a lot lighter. It could also be loaded faster with a cylinder swap so you didn't need to carry more than 1. Paired with a repeating carbine, your only real issue was having enough ammo on you instead of packed on your mule which was dead and 50 yds away across open ground.

Once the SAA came around in 1877, and was paired with the 1866 Yellow Boy, it became the standard self defense arsenal. It was only topped by the Double Action revolver 10 years later in 1887.


I've always wanted a Dragoon but the price tag on an original is out of my comfort zone.

I kinda like the #3 S&W for reloading, but the Schofield wasn't quite up to the .45LC asswise. I decline to stand downrange of either of them.

 

[Rebel5soul]

This conversation with a former FBI profiler caught my attention. How many people here fit the profile he presents?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

This conversation with a former FBI profiler caught my attention. How many people here fit the profile he presents?

More than a few, and they aren't the ones accused of it, either. They're the 1 + 3 = 13 crowd who cherry-pick a statement from the text, out of context and/or incompletely, and make a sweeping generalization from it. They're the ones who discern a pattern from one or two observations and erroneously see causation and draw conclusion. The funny bit is, there is evidence here to put that shoe on other feet.


I am still wary of Fibbie "experts," like the one who talked all the stuff about what they can track through the mail that they learned from Bomber Ted, forgetting that he'd still be out there if his brother didn't rat him out.


Just like the U-boat spies . . . .

 

[Rebel5soul]

More than a few, and they aren't the ones accused of it, either. They're the 1 + 3 = 13 crowd who cherry-pick a statement from the text, out of context and/or incompletely, and make a sweeping generalization from it. They're the ones who discern a pattern from one or two observations and erroneously see causation and draw conclusion. The funny bit is, there is evidence here to put that shoe on other feet.


I am still wary of Fibbie "experts," like the one who talked all the stuff about what they can track through the mail that they learned from Bomber Ted, forgetting that he'd still be out there if his brother didn't rat him out.


Just like the U-boat spies . . . .

I really don't care where the 'expert' originates from but if the make sense and the premise stands up to observed behavior then some credibility has to be attached and that's why I felt it was worth sharing.

You notice how the internet was tied into that ball of wax? From another source back in the late 2000's, about the time Obama was elected (and that is for time reference, Obama was not a 'causitive' agent here) the internet metrics regarding responses to content were getting more sophisticated and it was determined that if content could illicit a response of anger then the content would get more engagement.

Taking the two observations and mixing them together we have a generation of socially detached individuals who have been purposely fed a diet of information specifically designed to make them angry. These are very bad combinations.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I really don't care where the 'expert' originates from but if the make sense and the premise stands up to observed behavior then some credibility has to be attached and that's why I felt it was worth sharing.

You notice how the internet was tied into that ball of wax? From another source back in the late 2000's, about the time Obama was elected (and that is for time reference, Obama was not a 'causitive' agent here) the internet metrics regarding responses to content were getting more sophisticated and it was determined that if content could illicit a response of anger then the content would get more engagement.

Taking the two observations and mixing them together we have a generation of socially detached individuals who have been purposely fed a diet of information specifically designed to make them angry. These are very bad combinations.

I agree. The premise seems reasonable in light of personal observation. One can go back into this site alone and see what used to pass for posting in the aughts/Lit-Lint/Halcyon Daze Of The GB and watch a steady decline in civility and a steady increase in the Triggering Topic. It's almost as though anything that will elicit a strong response is what gets typed. Facts are the casualties and pissing in people's cornflakes - so much the better if the poster happens to dislike them - is the purpose and the only purpose. Rational Discussion hasn't taken a back seat, it has been left bag in hand, standing forlornly on the side of a back road with no cell coverage.


Additionally, all those things we have now, the New Tech Stuff, all those supposed enhancers of Communication, serve primarily to drive a literal wedge between people. It's much easier to hate the person who isn't helping you make carbon dioxide. All they are is words on a screen any more, blood family included in some instances. It's a damnable shame, but there is no going backwards, like when flatheads got dropped in favor of OHVs.