Our poor Communities Are Eating Themselves

[DraggonStone]

So my simplistic solution to address crime, as some would wish, without raising your taxes, is to give something up. Something like tax breaks for billionaires or subsidies to oil companies.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Have you read Alexander Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago?

No. i have read about it. Have you read it?

 

[Rightguide]

The USA already has the biggest prison population in the world.

China, has a large system as well, but the exact numbers in China are less transparent and they probably kill off huge numbers of their criminal element.

 

[Rightguide]

No. i have read about it. Have you read it?

Yes, both volumes. Russian authors can be notoriously dense, but this is a story you'll never forget. Few modern chronicles of man’s inhumanity to man are as harrowing as The Gulag Archipelago.

 

[JohnEngelman]

The USA already has the biggest prison population in the world.

Third world prisons are more of a deterrent to criminals.

AI Overview

The phrase "third world prison conditions" describes extremely poor, inhumane, and unsanitary conditions that can include overcrowding, inadequate food and water, lack of hygiene, lack of healthcare, and minimal staff-to-prisoner interaction. These conditions are associated with countries formerly or currently referred to as the "Third World," where limited resources and inadequate infrastructure contribute to systems that violate basic human rights and hinder prisoner well-being.

Characteristics of "Third World" Prison Conditions

• Overcrowding:
  Prisons are often filled to many times their intended capacity, leading to inhumane living situations.
  
  
• Poor Sanitation and Hygiene:
  Inmates frequently lack basic cleaning supplies like soap, leading to unsanitary environments that contribute to the spread of illness.
  
  
• Inadequate Food and Water:
  The quality and availability of food and water are often poor, failing to meet basic prisoner needs.
  
  
• Lack of Healthcare:
  Access to necessary medical services is limited, and continuous support from international actors, which could improve health services, may be sporadic or absent.
  
  
• Lack of Resources and Infrastructure:
  Prisons are often built with insufficient resources, and the necessary facilities for prisoner well-being are rare or non-existent.
  
  
• Limited Staffing and Training:
  Prisons may suffer from understaffing, and some staff members might have limited literacy skills, hindering effective record-keeping and prisoner care.
  
  
• Disregard for Prisoner Rights and Well-being:
  The focus on incapacitation of offenders can overshadow the fundamental needs of prisoners for mental and physical health, basic dignity, and rehabilitation.
• https://www.google.com/search?q="th...4xMrgHhBbCBwgwLjguMjAuMcgHgAE&sclient=gws-wiz

 

[coati]

Computer technology increases the relationship between employability and intelligence. If current trends continue a growing percentage of the American and the human population will be unemployable.

Yes, and non-empathetic incels like you will be much more comfortable with robots. Keep quoting AI.

You, Trump, and other racists are obsessed with IQ scores and are completely oblivious to a societal vision that focuses on a good quality of life for the widest range of humanity and other species on Earth.

 

[DraggonStone]

Yes, both volumes. Russian authors can be notoriously dense, but this is a story you'll never forget. Few modern chronicles of man’s inhumanity to man are as harrowing as The Gulag Archipelago.

Are you willing to give up tax breaks for the rich in exchange for mass incarceration and safe streets?

 

[HisArpy]

If you want more police to patrol stores and more arrests and more prosecutions, regardless of where, regardless of who - you need more resources to accomplish it.

Sending in the fed doesn't cut it.

WTF?

Are you saying that the difference in effectiveness depends on which police force is getting the money?

Are you serious? Spending money on local police is that same as spending money bringing in Federal agents. It's the same money, just allocated differently.

Unless what you're REALLY saying is that giving more taxpayer dollars to the same grifting city hall is going to be more effective than it has been for over a century. Which is pure TDS driven crap and everyone can see straight through that dishonesty.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Are you willing to give up tax breaks for the rich in exchange for mass incarceration and safe streets?

I want higher taxes for the rich and more punishment for criminals.

 

[DraggonStone]

I want higher taxes for the rich and more punishment for criminals.

You're not going to get that from anyone coming from the conservative side of politics.

 

[Rightguide]

Are you willing to give up tax breaks for the rich in exchange for mass incarceration and safe streets?

Are you willing to accept the status quo?

 

[ll74]

WTF?

Are you saying that the difference in effectiveness depends on which police force is getting the money?

No, I'm not saying that.

Are you serious? Spending money on local police is that same as spending money bringing in Federal agents. It's the same money, just allocated differently.

No it isn't. Federal troops do not arrest criminals.
They just look ominous and defend others.

Unless what you're REALLY saying is that giving more taxpayer dollars to the same grifting city hall is going to be more effective than it has been for over a century. Which is pure TDS driven crap and everyone can see straight through that dishonesty.

Not what I'm saying.
If you want all shoplifters to be arrested, that means taking resources no allocated to that and putting them towards that.
You need jails to have proper space for additional detainees.
You need to divert prosecutor resources to prosecute shoplifting as a priority versus other crimes
And possibly you need additional judges to adjudicate the backlog.

The reason cases aren't always prosecuted is to free up resources for other cases.

 

[JohnEngelman]

You're not going to get that from anyone coming from the conservative side of politics.

That is why I vote Democratic.

 

[Rightguide]

No, I'm not saying that.


No it isn't. Federal troops do not arrest criminals.
They just look ominous and defend others.


Not what I'm saying.
If you want all shoplifters to be arrested, that means taking resources no allocated to that and putting them towards that.
You need jails to have proper space for additional detainees.
You need to divert prosecutor resources to prosecute shoplifting as a priority versus other crimes
And possibly you need additional judges to adjudicate the backlog.

The reason cases aren't always prosecuted is to free up resources for other cases.

The reason why all the stores are closing is that merchants are being looted daily.

 

[ll74]

The reason why all the stores are closing is that merchants are being looted daily.

What part of resources are you missing?

If they are being looted.daily, that means they would need police there daily to monitor and/or arrest....how many stores do you think there are and how many police would be needed at each?

 

[Bn2f]

ChloeTzang is a lady.

Watch your language.

Fuuuuuuuck. You.
Fuuuuuuuck shit fer brains Chloe too.
Muthafuckin cock sucker racist eat my fecal matter. Ugh. Meant to say shit.

 

[Rightguide]

What part of resources are you missing?

If they are being looted.daily, that means they would need police there daily to monitor and/or arrest....how many stores do you think there are and how many police would be needed at each?

Politicians are allowing this to happen. They are the ones failing to prosecute and failing to allocate available resources to the problem that Democrats secretly consider to be reparations.

 

[Rightguide]

That is why I vote Democratic.

How's that working out for you? They have the lowest number in their modern history.

 

[ll74]

Politicians are allowing this to happen. They are the ones failing to prosecute and failing to allocate available resources to the problem that Democrats secretly consider to be reparations.

They are putting priorities on other more serious cases. That's how it works. You can, instead, put priority on shoplifting and looting and let the more heinous crimes drop in priority or you can hire more prosecutors to allocate towards looting and shoplifting.

 

[DraggonStone]

Are you willing to accept the status quo?

Never. I have an awareness of humanity and want the best for all of us. I know a lot of liberals, but very few of them want the jails emptied.
Once again, you can have mass incarceration, I'd like to know how you will pay for it.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Fuuuuuuuck. You.
Fuuuuuuuck shit fer brains Chloe too.
Muthafuckin cock sucker racist eat my fecal matter. Ugh. Meant to say shit.

Reported

 

[JohnEngelman]

How's that working out for you? They have the lowest number in their modern history.

That is because the Democratic Party emphasizes social issues, where the Republicans have the advantage. For years public opinion surveys have indicated majority support for a more progressive tax system.

 

[dmallord]

My $0.02 worth of conjecture is that it’s more than just inner-city blight; writing people off as lazy or blaming it all on bad parenting doesn’t keep the doors open.Stores shut down when theft outweighs profit, plain and simple.

Dragging Stalin’s gulags into the discussion is pointless—nobody’s bringing back slave labor camps. Saying “hire more cops” sounds good, but cities don’t have the budgets to put an officer in every aisle. And blaming prosecutors for not throwing the book at every shoplifter doesn’t change the reality that clogged courts and crowded jails won’t keep the stores in business.

What actually makes a dent is smarter layouts and tech, hiring locals who know the neighborhood, pulling young people into jobs before crime becomes their only path, and even co-op style ownership where stealing means you’re stealing from yourself. Cities can help too—by offsetting higher insurance costs, offering small tax breaks, or forming partnerships that make it worthwhile for stores to stay in high-risk areas. Pointing at “culture” or daydreaming about gulags doesn’t change the math—if nothing’s done, the stores leave, and the neighborhood loses food, jobs, and stability right along with them.

 

[Rightguide]

That is because the Democratic Party emphasizes social issues, where the Republicans have the advantage. For years public opinion surveys have indicated majority support for a more progressive tax system.

They also support a lot of lunacy that conflicts with the truth. That is why they are losing support as well as some affiliates of their movement. Andrew Wilson explains some of it here:

https://rumble.com/v6yixbc-andrew-w...enda-is-failing-miserab.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_a

 

[DanOkeffie]

13 Supermarkets ABANDON Milwaukee… Over Theft Epidemic​

July 30, 2025 2:20 pm by Alex Mark


5 entire grocery stores are leaving the city of Milwaukee at once, along with 2 walgreens locations. Local officials and residents are outraged, and want the stores to stay. Kroger who owns the 5 Pick n Save locations says the stores are leaving for ‘health of the business’ reasons… which requires an investigation.

https://citizenwatchreport.com/13-supermarkets-abandon-milwaukee-over-theft-epidemic/

https://www.the-sun.com/news/10023064/walgreens-closing-stores-theft-threats-milwaukee-wisconsin/

Why supermarkets have abandoned some of America’s poorest neighborhoods​

"Supermarkets have abandoned the inner city for suburban and exurban locations"​

By Ashlie D. Stevens
Senior Food Editor

Published March 24, 2024 9:00AM (EDT)​

A "Going Out Of Business"sign is displayed outside a retail store (Bloomberg Creative Photos/Getty Images)
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Despite the recent news that Family Dollar would be closing nearly 1,000 of their 8,000 American locations, dollar stores are spreading across the country at a staggering rate. Since 2011, the number of dollar stores nationwide has climbed from 20,000 to over 30,000, meaning there are now more dollar stores than Walmart and McDonald’s combined, according to a report from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Though they rarely carry fresh fruit, vegetables and meat — and despite likely exacerbating American food deserts — dollar stores are actually the fastest-growing food retailers in the United States, according to a 2023 study from experts at Tufts University School of Medicine and the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy, which was published in the American Journal of Public Health.

There are a variety of reasons for that, but one of the most significant by far is the way in which big-name supermarkets have largely abandoned, or avoided, many low-income neighborhoods over the last half-century, leaving a gigantic vacuum for dollar stores to fill, specifically in urban communities of color.

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/24/wh...doned-some-of-americas-poorest-neighborhoods/

Then they hold demonstrations saying that having food is a right.

look at those animals! they have rabies and must be terminated!!!! SHOOT em all