Houston homeowner shoots two "ICE agents" to death

[Rightguide]

Two masked men wearing bulletproof vests knocked on a homeowners door at 11 PM at night last night, identifying themselves as ICE agents, flashing a badge briefly and saying they had a warrant for his arrest.

The homeowner, via a Ring Doorbell camera, asked them to show him the warrant. The officers refused.

The homeowner then stood behind the closed front door and said he would not open the door until they showed him a warrant.

At this point, the officers pulled out pistols and fired through the door.

The homeowner was unhurt.

He did, however, have a much larger caliber gun which he used to fire shots of his own through the door, striking and killing both officers.

He then calmly called the Houston police department.

Whaddya know....the dead "cops" weren't no ICE officers!

Wat Tyler fantasizes he was that sort of .man.

Where in the story did they claim to be ICE agents?

 

[Sean Renaud]

MAGA.

Yeah when exactly was America great by the way?

 

[Rightguide]

Yeah when exactly was America great by the way?

As far as the World is concerned, from the Civil War onward. By 1865, many European observers viewed the Civil War as the largest modern land conflict ever fought, which provided a grim preview of what mechanized mass warfare would look like in the 20th century. After the two World Wars the U.S. stood astride the planet as the World's first super-power in the modern age.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Yeah when exactly was America great by the way?

That's the thing, isn't it? The left hates America.

 

[ll74]

Lol

 

[Saint_Ann]

Lol

You're in a good mood today or was that maniacal?

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's the thing, isn't it? The left hates America.

So you don't have an answer and you don't understand the Left. We love America far, far more than any conservative is even capable of. Mostly cus you can't love you're broken but whatever. You should be able to answer the question though.

As far as the World is concerned, from the Civil War onward. By 1865, many European observers viewed the Civil War as the largest modern land conflict ever fought, which provided a grim preview of what mechanized mass warfare would look like in the 20th century. After the two World Wars the U.S. stood astride the planet as the World's first super-power in the modern age.

That's an answer. Not what I would expect from really anybody but you and Ishmael but okay I can work with that. By that metric though we are pretty much undeniably greater now than we've been at any point in the past. Even if you want to hate on LGBT "woke" military just because of technology changes over the decades and raw numbers you can't make a coherent argument that the Greatest Generation would be much more than a speed bump for Gen Z.

So what would the goal of MAGA be then? If we want to Make America Great Again we need establish what we're aiming for. That doesn't sound like we're asking too much for the people chanting MAGA to be able to say this is where I wish our country was. MAybe we agree maybe we don't but when you can't answer I'm forced to think based on behavior of the Right collectively what you miss is being able to be a bigot with zero punishment social, economic or legal. And yes when jobs, where you can live, and treatment by the government collectively is clearly influence by race there absolutely need to be legal rammifications for well take a look around.

 

[Saint_Ann]

So you don't have an answer and you don't understand the Left. We love America far, far more than any conservative is even capable of. Mostly cus you can't love you're broken but whatever. You should be able to answer the question though.



That's an answer. Not what I would expect from really anybody but you and Ishmael but okay I can work with that. By that metric though we are pretty much undeniably greater now than we've been at any point in the past. Even if you want to hate on LGBT "woke" military just because of technology changes over the decades and raw numbers you can't make a coherent argument that the Greatest Generation would be much more than a speed bump for Gen Z.

So what would the goal of MAGA be then? If we want to Make America Great Again we need establish what we're aiming for. That doesn't sound like we're asking too much for the people chanting MAGA to be able to say this is where I wish our country was. MAybe we agree maybe we don't but when you can't answer I'm forced to think based on behavior of the Right collectively what you miss is being able to be a bigot with zero punishment social, economic or legal. And yes when jobs, where you can live, and treatment by the government collectively is clearly influence by race there absolutely need to be legal rammifications for well take a look around.

Tell me what's wrong with the concept of MAGA.

 

[Rotadom]

Where in the story did they claim to be ICE agents?

What else would they claim to be in this trump era of sanctioned vigilantism?

two men wearing ski masks and claiming to be police

 

[Sean Renaud]

Tell me what's wrong with the concept of MAGA.

I did. The concept states we were better in the past. That we are not greater now than we were before. Which means the ball is in your court to state when and what specifically was better in the past. IF you're anything but a straight, white, rich, Christian, male you are (the last few months notwithstanding) in the absolute best situation you've ever been in for most things.

 

[Saint_Ann]

I did. The concept states we were better in the past. That we are not greater now than we were before. Which means the ball is in your court to state when and what specifically was better in the past. IF you're anything but a straight, white, rich, Christian, male you are (the last few months notwithstanding) in the absolute best situation you've ever been in for most things.

So there's no room for improvement because America's prosperity wasn't better in an unspecified era in the past. That's gobbledygook.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Tell me what's wrong with the concept of MAGA.

NOTHING is wrong with the idea of making America great.

The problem is, the actions of the current acting commander in chief are destroying what was once great about America, and not improving it. It will take a great leader to undo all the damage Trump has caused in just over a year and a half, but if you really believe ANYTHING he has done has made America "Great" (and not the opposite!) you are either not too bright or are not paying attention.

Jim Crow laws were never "Great." Instituting this neo-apartheid regime that Trump seems hell-bent on imposing is NOT making America great.
Doing away with free trade, imposing inflation-causing tariffs that harm both farmers AND consumers is NOT making America great.
Cosying up to Russia and other dictatorships is NOT making America great.
Cutting funding for science and research is NOT making America great.
Cutting funding for schools is NOT making America great.
Promoting environmental destruction, pollution and dispensing with protections against these things is NOT making America great.
Waging war on GLBT, women, and individual freedoms is NOT making America great.
Cutting USAID and alienating our trading partners and allies is NOT making America great.
His economy-destroying "Big Beautiful Bill" which takes money from the poor to give to the wealthy, in some perverse reverse-Robin Hood scheme, is NOT making America great.
Militarizing the police force and putting soldiers on our street to terrorize our citizens is NOT making America great.
Rouding up immigrants, Gestapo style, is NOT making America great.

ALL these things- AND MORE- are destroying the promise, prosperity, and freedom of this country.

And you claim to "Love America." If you support these things... trust me, YOU DON'T!

If you truely want to make "America Great Again," you will be out in the streets doing all you can to protest what is happening in America right now. Just like all good patriots are doing.

 

[Saint_Ann]

NOTHING is wrong with the idea of making America great.

The problem is, the actions of the current acting commander in chief are destroying what was once great about America, and not improving it. It will take a great leader to undo all the damage Trump has caused in just over a year and a half, but if you really believe ANYTHING he has done has made America "Great" (and not the opposite!) you are either not too bright or are not paying attention.

Jim Crow laws were never "Great." Instituting this neo-apartheid regime that Trump seems hell-bent on imposing is NOT making America great.
Doing away with free trade, imposing inflation-causing tariffs that harm both farmers AND consumers is NOT making America great.
Cosying up to Russia and other dictatorships is NOT making America great.
Cutting funding for science and research is NOT making America great.
Cutting funding for schools is NOT making America great.
Promoting environmental destruction, pollution and dispensing with protections against these things is NOT making America great.
Waging war on GLBT, women, and individual freedoms is NOT making America great.
Cutting USAID and alienating our trading partners and allies is NOT making America great.
His economy-destroying "Big Beautiful Bill" which takes money from the poor to give to the wealthy, in some perverse reverse-Robin Hood scheme, is NOT making America great.
Militarizing the police force and putting soldiers on our street to terrorize our citizens is NOT making America great.
Rouding up immigrants, Gestapo style, is NOT making America great.

ALL these things- AND MORE- are destroying the promise, prosperity, and freedom of this country.

And you claim to "Love America." If you support these things... trust me, YOU DON'T!

If you truely want to make "America Great Again," you will be out in the streets doing all you can to protest what is happening in America right now. Just like all good patriots are doing.

Quit using chatgpt. Christ.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So there's no room for improvement because America's prosperity wasn't better in an unspecified era in the past. That's gobbledygook.

That's the opposite of what I said. I was very clear that the premise of MAGA is that we were greater in the past. The Premise of "Yes we can" is that there is room for improvement.

So please define when exactly America was GREATER than it is today or do I need explain what the word AGAIN means?

 

[Bdm20]

Bless your heart, Saint Ann.

Why are the rest of you even bothering to respond to this idiot?

 

[Saint_Ann]

That's the opposite of what I said. I was very clear that the premise of MAGA is that we were greater in the past. The Premise of "Yes we can" is that there is room for improvement.

So please define when exactly America was GREATER than it is today or do I need explain what the word AGAIN means?

Post WWII was pretty good.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Post WWII was pretty good.

I can't believe I'm having this discussion.

 

[CuriousJInLA]

Not curious enough, I guess…

https://www.newsweek.com/suspects-allegedly-impersonating-police-killed-texas-homeowner-2118262

I was referring to the blanket comment that all of Russia and China are safer than DC. I lived in DC for close to a decade, and still have a house there. I should have replied to the comment; apologies for the mistake.

That said, why would any American celebrate pseudo Martial Law? Especially when it’s clearly retaliatory? And when there are multiple cities (in Trump-supporting states) that have worse violent crime rates? When did government retribution against Americans for thinking differently become something to celebrate?

Furthermore if a normal citizen is unable to tell the difference between a criminal and government agents because neither reveal their identities or provide probable cause and/or legal documentation, what does that say about the government agents? Many who have regularly unlawfully detained legal US citizens and lawful residents?

Whatever our political position we should stand for constitutional rights and due process…wouldn’t you agree?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Post WWII was pretty good.

I know you're MAGA so maybe you're confused on when or even if WW2 has occurred but we are post WW2 now according the history books. Do you mean before the Korean War? Cus that's a pretty small window. Before Vietnam? What made it superior to right now?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I did. The concept states we were better in the past. That we are not greater now than we were before. Which means the ball is in your court to state when and what specifically was better in the past. IF you're anything but a straight, white, rich, Christian, male you are (the last few months notwithstanding) in the absolute best situation you've ever been in for most things.

If pushed, many aging Magat boomers wish to return to a gauzy vision of the past where June Cleaver on "Leave it to Beaver" wore pearls as she vacuumed the family home.

One-earner households were the norm, people stayed with one company for life and were rewarded with pensions for their loyal service. There were these things called "want ads" in the newspapers, often delienated by "Help Wanted - Male" and "Help Wanted - Female" sections.

And most importantly, as Ishmael once famously said, a black man took a white man's orders, not his wallet.

 

[Saint_Ann]

I know you're MAGA so maybe you're confused on when or even if WW2 has occurred but we are post WW2 now according the history books. Do you mean before the Korean War? Cus that's a pretty small window. Before Vietnam? What made it superior to right now?

Apparently, you don't know shit. You seem to be ok with MAG but you fly off the rails with MAGA. There's always room for improvement, and Trump is making it happen. I didn't think he had it in him but there we are. He has shock-and-awed the left who has spent the last 9 years doing their best to stop his agenda with every means possible, mostly illegal and some treasonist. Watch and learn.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Apparently, you don't know shit. You seem to be ok with MAG but you fly off the rails with MAGA. There's always room for improvement, and Trump is making it happen. I didn't think he had it in him but there we are. He has shock-and-awed the left who has spent the last 9 years doing their best to stop his agenda with every means possible, mostly illegal and some treasonist. Watch and learn.

Because MAG (which I would never say) and MAGA are two entirely different mentalities. What is Trump doing that is making us better cus I'm not seeing it. I am seeing that the rules don't apply to the president and I hope the next Democrat goes on an absolute revenge tour. No mercy whatsoever. Burn this fucker down.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Because MAG (which I would never say) and MAGA are two entirely different mentalities. What is Trump doing that is making us better cus I'm not seeing it. I am seeing that the rules don't apply to the president and I hope the next Democrat goes on an absolute revenge tour. No mercy whatsoever. Burn this fucker down.

You're seeing the revenge tour. What the Democrats pulled over the last ten years was illegal and subversive. Talk about a threat to democracy. Your pretending to be bipartisan just flew out the window.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's rather odd here in Houston that three days after the shooting, the police have not released any additional information about this incident, other than a one-off remark that the homeowner had his wife and child in the home with him at the time of the encounter, and insisted they seek shelter in the kitchen at the rear of the house before he went to the front door.

This seems very prudent, especially in 2025. He had no way of knowing who these "law enforcement officers" really were. They could have been Israeli operatives, and everyone knows Israeli operatives take a special joy in killing unarmed women and children.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You're seeing the revenge tour. What the Democrats pulled over the last ten years was illegal and subversive. Talk about a threat to democracy. Your pretending to be bipartisan just flew out the window.

They did something illegal but Trump & the DOJ aren’t going to prosecute? I’d love to hear how that makes sense.