pink_silk_glove
Literate Smutress
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So I take it you did not like Pretty Woman?![]()
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So I take it you did not like Pretty Woman?![]()
This isn't about calling 'erotica' toxic. It's about romance novels - Mills & Boon and Barbara Cartland in the olden days, Twilight and its ilk more recently: all those stories with Alpha dudes and princes and that kind of thing 'rescuing' poor feeble females who can be so thankful that they can now stay at home and let the men do the difficult stuff like thinking, while they go all 'trad'.What about whole other categories, like BDSM? It seems to me that calling erotica "toxic" is inappropriate.
I think it’s playing to the fantasy of being taken care of- of course it’s almost entirely ~physical~. I want to read about a MMC who takes care of her emotionally first.This isn't about calling 'erotica' toxic. It's about romance novels - Mills & Boon and Barbara Cartland in the olden days, Twilight and its ilk more recently: all those stories with Alpha dudes and princes and that kind of thing 'rescuing' poor feeble females who can be so thankful that they can now stay at home and let the men do the difficult stuff like thinking, while they go all 'trad'.
I haven't seen the whole thing (think I caught part of it on TV) but it's part of those tropes, yeah.So I take it you did not like Pretty Woman?![]()
I'd love to see the original ending, where she tells him to bog off. Test audiences hated it, apparently.I haven't seen the whole thing (think I caught part of it on TV) but it's part of those tropes, yeah.
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I really wish I knew where you stood on things. I can't take all the ambiguity.
What is the obsession with the Alpha anyway? Most women, not all, but most, hate the concept of the Alpha, which not to get into an argument, is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of the one calling themselves and Alpha. So why does it appear in Romance so much which is primarily geared towards women? And I think it was a fantastic observation by someone above to say the whole werewolf thing has nazi overtones, never thought of it like that, well done.
It has no more to do with real life than BDSM. Why the obsession with romance tropes?What is the obsession with the Alpha anyway? Most women, not all, but most, hate the concept of the Alpha, which not to get into an argument, is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of the one calling themselves and Alpha. So why does it appear in Romance so much which is primarily geared towards women? And I think it was a fantastic observation by someone above to say the whole werewolf thing has nazi overtones, never thought of it like that, well done.
One of the few movies I turned off midway ... just too unpleasant.
I tried to like The Good Witch series of films. The first one was OK, but after that, they just got too sappy. The stories got all muddled up.
It has no more to do with real life than BDSM. Why the obsession with romance tropes?
She was one of the reasons I watched The Good Witch at all. But even her smile and smokiness couldn't get me past the sappiness of the show.The JAG Marine, the Good Witch (TV series and TV movies), Army Wifes, and Lifetime network Diva in Residence, Catherine Bell.
My experience is that the readers will more than tolerate it. At least in the non-toxic categories. I write mostly some form of romance now and I don't feel abused by the readers. My Nude Day entry was definitely all character development and very romance-y. but still got me a blue W.Romance isn't so prominent on Lit, probably because the genre calls for more development than many Lit readers enjoy or will even tolerate.
She was one of the reasons I watched The Good Witch at all. But even her smile and smokiness couldn't get me past the sappiness of the show.
They went full Hallmark.
No doubt that romantic elements are very popular on Lit, but Romances and stories with romantic elements aren't the same thing. We have a Romance category for actual Romances. It's a smaller category (in terms of number of stories) than (for instance) BDSM, Fetish, Group Sex, E&V, GM, and NC/R.My experience is that the readers will more than tolerate it. At least in the non-toxic categories. I write mostly some form of romance now and I don't feel abused by the readers. My Nude Day entry was definitely all character development and very romance-y. but still got me a blue W.
A certain game I play has been showing me extracts from 'erotic romances' from an app/publisher called Galatea (a bit dodgy to anyone who recognises the name from Greek mythology).
They all have various tribes of huge Alpha males, often werewolves, or college footballers, looking to take a mate, and a young woman age 18-19 who has never been interested in men but then one day an Alpha (their wording...) trips over her and growls that he's having her... and her groin flutters with novel sensations...
The tagline is "50 Shades can't hold a candle to this!!!" and indeed, the prose is such that 50 Shades actually looks good in comparison.
I've never managed more than a few pages before my brain screams it's starting to rot, but invariably there's a section where the whole plot would be resolved if two people would actually just bloody talk to each other...
On Lit and elsewhere I often nope out of a story when a Manly Stud tells the previously competent woman that he's booked a restaurant/arranged a holiday/told her boss she's taking leave - all sorts that in 99% of real scenarios would have her yelling "What the fuck?" When I was growing up it was pretty much every 'romance' I ever saw.
A certain game I play has been showing me extracts from 'erotic romances' from an app/publisher called Galatea (a bit dodgy to anyone who recognises the name from Greek mythology).
They all have various tribes of huge Alpha males, often werewolves, or college footballers, looking to take a mate, and a young woman age 18-19 who has never been interested in men but then one day an Alpha (their wording...) trips over her and growls that he's having her... and her groin flutters with novel sensations...
The tagline is "50 Shades can't hold a candle to this!!!" and indeed, the prose is such that 50 Shades actually looks good in comparison.
I've never managed more than a few pages before my brain screams it's starting to rot, but invariably there's a section where the whole plot would be resolved if two people would actually just bloody talk to each other...
On Lit and elsewhere I often nope out of a story when a Manly Stud tells the previously competent woman that he's booked a restaurant/arranged a holiday/told her boss she's taking leave - all sorts that in 99% of real scenarios would have her yelling "What the fuck?" When I was growing up it was pretty much every 'romance' I ever saw.
Maybe it is because I do not generally write in one of the heavily viewed categories here. but Romance's viewership does not bother me. I know some authors want the big numbers that they can get it T/I. But I really see that as the oddball, along with a very few other categories like LW. I suspect Romance is fairly centrist in its average viewership for the site.If the popularity of fictional genres on Lit followed the same pattern as they do in the larger market, then Romance would be one of the largest, most-read categories. The situation is similar for SciFi/Fantasy. By some measures, that's the most popular genre in fiction, but it's a fairly low-traffic category on Lit.
I suspect Romance is fairly centrist in its average viewership for the site.
I don't find it very centrist. Romance is quite skewed. It is probably the narrowest category and the easiest category to score in so long as you don't stray from that narrow. There are some truly awful cardboard plots that score 4.75 and up with dozens of glowing comments there.
Possibly more about other erotica sites. Most of the sites that compete with Literotica ban incest, so those stories and readers all end up here.I wonder if the lack of availability of incest stories in mainstream literature is why you see the reverse appeal of readership here. Certainly, there is plenty of erotically charged romantic literature available more broadly.
You've never been on Archive of our own, no age restricting and sooo creepy. James Potter and little girl Harry creepy. ;oPossibly more about other erotica sites. Most of the sites that compete with Literotica ban incest, so those stories and readers all end up here.
I meant centrist in views. It is definitely not centrist in reaction. Higher scores, more comments and more votes than typical as I understand it typically and my own dcperienceI don't find it very centrist. Romance is quite skewed. It is probably the narrowest category and the easiest category to score in so long as you don't stray from that narrow. There are some truly awful cardboard plots that score 4.75 and up with dozens of glowing comments there.