Will The Scotus Declare Race-based Gerrymandering Unconstitutional?

It's blatantly unconstitutional.
No it isn't. All the Constitution says about congressional districting is: "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature." (Article 1, Section 2, Clause 1).
 
No it isn't. All the Constitution says about congressional districting is: "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature." (Article 1, Section 2, Clause 1).
14th Amendment. Equal Protection Clause.
 
Gerrymandering is baked into the cake of our representative republic. When "independent commissions" draw the boundaries, they are still appointed, influenced, and litigated by competing parties. Declaring one specific type of gerrymandering illegal could be a slight improvement.
 
Gerrymandering is baked into the cake of our representative republic. When "independent commissions" draw the boundaries, they are still appointed, influenced, and litigated by competing parties. Declaring one specific type of gerrymandering illegal could be a slight improvement.
So the answer is to vote in the commission and make it part of primaries.

They want you to give up on the answer.
 
They want you to give up on the answer.
There's no "answer" that can be written in a law or verdict. Voters must set their own limits of what they will tolerate. Politicians will always push the limits until voters push back.
 
There's no "answer" that can be written in a law or verdict. Voters must set their own limits of what they will tolerate. Politicians will always push the limits until voters push back.
There is always a solution.

It just isn't always easy
 
Gerrymandering is baked into the cake of our representative republic. When "independent commissions" draw the boundaries, they are still appointed, influenced, and litigated by competing parties. Declaring one specific type of gerrymandering illegal could be a slight improvement.
But they cannot be race based.
 
The case before the court is about race-based gerrymandering by Democrats who see everything through the prism of color.
Actually, it was the Republicans who began the push to maximize the number of majority-minority districts, because that would lead to all the other districts in those states being whiter and more Republican. Nice try though.
 
No it isn't. All the Constitution says about congressional districting is: "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature." (Article 1, Section 2, Clause 1).
Based on race? It's clearly unconstitutional.
 
That's what the VRA was intended to address in the first place: decades of gerrymandering to keep POC out of power.

You think it's a good thing for the government to engage in racism to combat racism?

I was told by my criminal law instructor (who at one point became the Public Defender for San Bernardino County) that we don't actually need laws prohibiting racism and all the rest. What we need are people who don't do that sort of thing.

I have yet to meet a Democrat who feels the same way. Ever.
 
You think it's a good thing for the government to engage in racism to combat racism?
Of course not. But there's nothing racist about putting a stop to deliberately diluting the strength of communities comprised primarily of people of color. There is plenty that's racist about not doing that.

I was told by my criminal law instructor (who at one point became the Public Defender for San Bernardino County) that we don't actually need laws prohibiting racism and all the rest. What we need are people who don't do that sort of thing.

I have yet to meet a Democrat who feels the same way. Ever.
Oh, you've met plenty of us. You're just seeing us through your prism of bigotry.
 
Of course not. But there's nothing racist about putting a stop to deliberately diluting the strength of communities comprised primarily of people of color. There is plenty that's racist about not doing that.

WTF???

Are you saying that creating BLACK MAJORITY Districts isn't racist when the point is to exclude other people BECAUSE OF skin color?

WTF???

Oh, you've met plenty of us. You're just seeing us through your prism of bigotry.

Nice sounding words. How come they don't fit with what you just espoused?
 
Actually, it was the Republicans who began the push to maximize the number of majority-minority districts, because that would lead to all the other districts in those states being whiter and more Republican. Nice try though.
Show us how they did this.
 
Right now Texas is attempting to redistrict in a way that carves up areas with large populations of minorities to dilute their impact.

If gerrymandering is outlawed, the Democrats will benefit hugely.
They benefited hugely when years ago they started this practice in California to gain twelve additional House seats.
 
You think it's a good thing for the government to engage in racism to combat racism?

I was told by my criminal law instructor (who at one point became the Public Defender for San Bernardino County) that we don't actually need laws prohibiting racism and all the rest. What we need are people who don't do that sort of thing.

I have yet to meet a Democrat who feels the same way. Ever.
Neither have I. And yes, the woke liberals really do think it's a good thing for the government to engage in racism.
 
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