An ass is an ass. Or not?

[AnnieLit]

I have a question for bi guys, specifically for those that top in m/m encounters and also have anal with women.

Can you tell the difference between a male and female ass? Or as far as anal goes, it is all the same? Obviously there is a lot of variation between individual people, but if, say, you are blindfolded, your hands are tied behind your back. You are lead to a room where somebody is bent over a table and waiting for you. You are put in the right spot, your cock is put right at the ring and you are given a slight push. Your dick slides in. There is a muffled gasp - the person is gagged, so you can't tell much about their voice. The ass pushes back, sliding further on your dick - they want it. You start pumping in and out. Slow at first, it is awkward to keep balance without using your hands. But soon you two find your rhythm and you are able to speed up a bit. You feel your orgasm building, you are so close. And then they cry out through the gag and the ass starts spasming around you. It is so tight! You can't take it any more and cum.

Can you tell if it was a male or a female? How?

The answer "only a man can like/want it" will not fly - there are women that like anal. There are even women that prefer anal.

The answer "I will know, if he comes from it" will not work either. Your hands are bound, but their's are not, so they might be rubbing their clit or jerking their cock off. Plus G-spot can be stimulated through the vaginal wall, so there are some rare women that can come from anal without any additional stimulation.

I need it for a story, but I don't personally know any bi tops. For whatever reason all guys around me are strictly bottoms with men, so they would not know.

Thank you!

 

[AnnieLit]

Guys, what is going on?

78 reads, zero comments?? Really?

I started worrying that I was looking for a Unicorn, that such bi men existed only in fiction stories. But no, got 4 responses in PM exactly from the type of guys I was looking for. But why PM, why not here?

Yes, I need this for a story, but I would think there are quite a few people on this board that are curious about the answer without any lit purposes. Bi-curious straight men for sure, women of any orientation, probably some strictly gay guys too, but I am not sure about the last ones. Is there such a thing as bi-curious gay? Even if there is, they are probably more curious about vaginal sex, than anal.

 

[Hitchiker69]

I don't know about the tied and blind folded idea...never tried it and don't see the point.

But I can tell you the finest, smallest, tightest ass I've ever had was a man's. Definitely tighter than any woman's ass I've ever had

 

[AnnieLit]

I don't know about the tied and blind folded idea...never tried it and don't see the point.

But I can tell you the finest, smallest, tightest ass I've ever had was a man's. Definitely tighter than any woman's ass I've ever had

Hi Hitchiker, thanks for your reply.

I needed the tied and blind folded part just to isolate the feelings coming from the actual fucking. Of cause you can tell the difference, if you can see who you are fucking! And one reach around would answer that question as well. Hence needed to take away vision and touch.

 

[ericrodman101]

Great question. I wanted to say of course I can tell the difference, but the way you describe the fucking I'm not so confident. Only contact is cock and ass, nothing else? Haven't encountered many woman who prefer anal, tolerate perhaps. I mean, I don't prefer anal, but if I want to top it's only fair I bottom if he insists and I'm feeling generous. What have you decided based on the responses you received? Or does your question deserve proper scientific research? Any volunteers?

 

[AnnieLit]

Great question. I wanted to say of course I can tell the difference, but the way you describe the fucking I'm not so confident. Only contact is cock and ass, nothing else? Haven't encountered many woman who prefer anal, tolerate perhaps. I mean, I don't prefer anal, but if I want to top it's only fair I bottom if he insists and I'm feeling generous. What have you decided based on the responses you received? Or does your question deserve proper scientific research? Any volunteers?

So far out of 4 in PM
- one was sure (presumably based on personal experience) that there is no detectable difference

- one talked about physiological differences, namely length of the anal tube leading to the colon and cleanliness of the rectum. I would think that there is not much difference, regular shower worked just fine for everybody I ever been with, but he thinks men have to have an enema, and women don't. As for the length of the anal tube, I need to spend some quality time with Google, as this is not a measurement that I can easily find statistics on.

- another one said he would know based on the eagerness of the bottom. More or less what you said - true male bottoms actively want it, women just tolerate. Reactant male bottoms, I guess, also just tolerate it, so this does not help much. Plus I don't agree with the part about women (all?, most?, some?, few?) not wanting it, but this is completely different discussion, better suited for the straight section of this BB.

- and the last one was a wannabe, i.e. bi-curious, so no experience there.

 

[bicuriousnc]

I think this calls for

Some research...

Find a willing girl and start signing up tops and getting blindfolds...

(Sorry I don't have any top experience to share)

 

[AnnieLit]

as far as medical statistics goes:
"The authors measured the length of the surgical anal canal (anorectal ring to anal verge) in 108 men and 103 women; the age ranged from 18 to 90 years (average 59 years). The average length of the surgical anal canal was 4.2 cm (range 3.0-5.3 cm). In men the average length was 4.4 cm (range 3.2-5.3 cm) compared with the average length of 4.9 cm (range 3.0-5.0 cm) in women (P less than 0.001). The average length of the anatomic anal canal (dentate line to anal verge) was 2.1 cm (range 1.0-3.8 cm). In men, the average length was 2.2 cm (range 1.4-3.8 cm), whereas in women the average length was 2.0 cm (range 1.0-3.2 cm) (P less than .01). The length of the anatomic anal canal has no relationship to the length of the surgical anal canal or vice versa (P less than 0.1). There was no statistically significant difference in the length of the surgical anal canal or the anatomic anal canal in persons below 60 years old versus those above in either sex (P greater than 0.01)."

So we are talking about 0.5 cm difference (4.4 vs 4.9) of the very short part close to the entrance. But 5 cm is more or less glans size, since penetration goes much deeper than that, this does not really help.

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/sur...al-anatomy-anal-canal-9-638.jpg?cb=1521409805

 

[bicuriousnc]

as far as medical statistics goes:
"The authors measured the length of the surgical anal canal (anorectal ring to anal verge) in 108 men and 103 women; the age ranged from 18 to 90 years (average 59 years). The average length of the surgical anal canal was 4.2 cm (range 3.0-5.3 cm). In men the average length was 4.4 cm (range 3.2-5.3 cm) compared with the average length of 4.9 cm (range 3.0-5.0 cm) in women (P less than 0.001). The average length of the anatomic anal canal (dentate line to anal verge) was 2.1 cm (range 1.0-3.8 cm). In men, the average length was 2.2 cm (range 1.4-3.8 cm), whereas in women the average length was 2.0 cm (range 1.0-3.2 cm) (P less than .01). The length of the anatomic anal canal has no relationship to the length of the surgical anal canal or vice versa (P less than 0.1). There was no statistically significant difference in the length of the surgical anal canal or the anatomic anal canal in persons below 60 years old versus those above in either sex (P greater than 0.01)."

So we are talking about 0.5 cm difference (4.4 vs 4.9) of the very short part close to the entrance. But 5 cm is more or less glans size, since penetration goes much deeper than that, this does not really help.

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/sur...al-anatomy-anal-canal-9-638.jpg?cb=1521409805

Wait that's jsut the first 1-2 inches.... Or am I missinf something (5 cm = ~2 inches)

 

[AnnieLit]

Wait that's jsut the first 1-2 inches.... Or am I missinf something (5 cm = ~2 inches)

No, you are right. That is why I said it is just the glans

I can't find gender specific measurements for the rest, just that it is 15-17 cm to the colon curve. Well, right, 17 cm is 6.7 in, which is more than an average cock, so everything should fit. Plus cock is measured from the base, but you loose about an inch for the balls...

 

[none2_none2]

I was one of those who initially read your thread, but didn't post. I'm not big on labels. If I must have one, most would probably give me the label gay. However, I do not find females unattractive. It is just that my attraction to certain males is so much stronger. Plus, I have zero experience with fucking females in the behind.

That being said, I think you are missing the fact that sex is more in the head than in some sex tool chest of body parts.

For instance, I by far am attracted to hirsute men. While over the years I was on the prowl, I wasn't exclusive with guys with hairy bodies, that was the kind of guys that triggered my interest in mounting them. While I know some women must have some body hair outside the groin and underarm areas -- otherwise, who is buying all those lady shavers and hair removal products, I would think it is very rare to see a woman with a hairy chest, hairy legs, hairy back, and of course hairy bottom.

I have stated in plenty of my posts, that cock has never been my focus. Rather, I like the secondary characteristics that males have: Muscular density, hairiness (that I've already mentioned) broad shoulders, etc. So putting a body part in any orifice is just part of the sexual experience. There is the touch sensations, the sounds, the smells, etc. You would almost have to narrow down some experiment to putting your cock through a hole in the wall (like a gloryhole) where you cannot see anything on the other side nor hear anything to eliminate all the possibilities. Still some might get off more from the anonymity of what body part, what gender is on the other side.

When I would fuck, I would feel the muscularity of the body I was fucking. I didn't have too many partners with high levels of body fat, nor really skinny partners either. Note, that I once the guy who I fucked fell asleep (as did I) when him crawling on top of me. When I woke up, I was disoriented, and for a brief while, I feared I had messed with a minor which FREAKED me out! I am not into messing with kids. It wasn't his fault, he was just a very small man. He bought clothes that fit him in the teens section of stores. Note, that one woman I kissed was kind of a turn off as her lips where small. That too reminded me of a minor. It wasn't her gender as much as her size that was a turn off. So muscular and skeletal sizing makes it pretty easy to sense the gender differences. I also very much feel their body hair if they have a hairy behind, or if I wrap my body around theirs. I would also tend to wrap my head around theirs, and men's shampoos tend to smell much different than those that many women used to use. I also have to say that the hair products that some women use to make their hair stiff I think is a dis-service to their hair. (I've been with men of all hair lengths. What men have longer hair I have never noticed that they used such products -- of course I had absolutely zero interest in drag queens that might have been more likely to use such products -- if they don't rely 100% on wigs.

Also if the bottom likes to do reverse cowboy, there is the interesting sensation of his balls against mine. I only noticed that with my partner, as usually, I couldn't handle bottom on top positions as usually the bottom's weight would cut the circulation to my cock. (One of the draw backs to that more denser body mass -- luckily my guy knew how to sit on me, but keep his weight at a minimum.)

Note, that part of the reason I never did much sex with women, was that I really wanted to have kids. So when I found out in my early 20's that I was VERY infertile, I didn't want to be reminded of that failure with sex. Had I been fertile, I probably would have done much more. I probably wouldn't have don't much anal, but I would have looked forward to regular str8 sex. I say that, but it wasn't the life I lead, so perhaps I'm deceiving myself.

There aren't many that are transmen (F->M transsexuals), and I think there are fewer of them that have sex with men after the transformation, but perhaps that might be a place for your curiosity. If a gay/bi man gets it on with both cis and trans men, then they might be able to make a distinction since some of them develop hairy bodies with the hormones, and some of them work out to increase their body mass. I have to admit that visually, plenty of the transmen that I have seen have a boyish look which again, I tended to go for the older fuller look. I suppose part of that is many probably transition after puberty which leaves them shorter and with smaller bones.

Again, I think you simply have to consider that sex is so much more than just the act of two body parts. There is all the sensations that surround it. For me just because I don't crave cock, doesn't mean I don't go crazy with the other characteristics that some men possess.

 

[Eli_Dreams]

Sorry, can't help with the answers, but curious as well

 

[TheVeryIdea]

Fascinating subject

I can't help either, but it is a fascinating subject and I'd just like to say that the thread possesses some quality writing. Top stuff! Maybe it should be made sticky?

 

[Sunnyade]

I don't know about the tied and blind folded idea...never tried it and don't see the point.

But I can tell you the finest, smallest, tightest ass I've ever had was a man's. Definitely tighter than any woman's ass I've ever had

Likewise. Can't tell the difference. Certainly more intense.

 

[shelbakk]

Love this thread

 

[jaketen2016]

It doesn't really address your question, but fyi, I am heterosexual but do enjoy passive anal pleasure. Once, as I was being pegged, it made me cum even though my cock was not being touched by anything. I don't watch gay or bi porn, and I have never seen this acted out so to speak but I imagine it is pretty common.

 

[AnnieLit]

It doesn't really address your question, but fyi, I am heterosexual but do enjoy passive anal pleasure. Once, as I was being pegged, it made me cum even though my cock was not being touched by anything. I don't watch gay or bi porn, and I have never seen this acted out so to speak but I imagine it is pretty common.

Em... It's called prostate orgasm, of cause it is common. You don't need to be fucked by a cock (real or plastic) for that to happen - just her finger up your ass pressing at the right spot will do. Or get a butt plug for men (they are shaped differently then the female/unisex ones), put it in, lay down and start contracting and relaxing your ass muscles. Pretty soon you will figure out which muscles you need to use to massage your prostate this way. And yes, you will come without touching your cock.

Never thought I will be the one explaining it to an adult man in this day and age, but here we are

 

[ericrodman101]

Em... It's called prostate orgasm, of cause it is common. You don't need to be fucked by a cock (real or plastic) for that to happen - just her finger up your ass pressing at the right spot will do. Or get a butt plug for men (they are shaped differently then the female/unisex ones), put it in, lay down and start contracting and relaxing your ass muscles. Pretty soon you will figure out which muscles you need to use to massage your prostate this way. And yes, you will come without touching your cock.

Never thought I will be the one explaining it to an adult man in this day and age, but here we are

Presumably this is why doctors are so quick, or so I've heard. Can't have a routine examination turning into a finger fuck.

 

[Astroman72]

Interesting question.

I'm speaking less from experience and more from speculation, but I think there would probably be more differences between individuals rather than between the sexes.

 

[txfuncouple]

There hasn't been much difference in my limited experience. It was mentioned above about the bottom fucking back, and in my case with both men and women that happened. I also noticed three distinct feelings that were vaguely similar on my end, so I'd think it would be more about if the bottom was relaxed and/or more experienced that would come into play as well.

So yes, if the position was right one might feel a difference in equipmment, and if they were hairless or hairy.

But you specifically mentioned how they were positioned, and that would mean your cock would only be between the ass cheeks and in the ass of the bottom partner. If the guy was waxed, shaved, or had little to no body hair, and wasn't overly muscular but toned and built more like a fit woman, I would think differences would be hard to spot being blindfolded at least in my experiences.

Yes you could probably tell the difference with several other factors, but done specifically like you mentione, and chosen very carefully to mimick each other, for story purposes it could be believed you couldnt tell them apart blindfolded.

At least that's my opinion from my experiences. Obiously, open to volunteer as part of a control group in an experiment to determine the scientific truth, lol.

 

[LordHawk]

As far as the actual anus and being inside? No real difference other then you might get between any individuals. The bigger difference will be the outer trappings. How big and muscular the thighs are, the shape and feel of the buttocks. That said, a muscular bodybuilder type woman might feel the same as a similarly built male, and a slim male might feel similar to a woman. So if there's no sight or sound for clues, you probably wouldn't know.

 

[smoothinsatin]

I won't say my experience is extensive as an anal top, but it's definitely a non-zero quantity...

From what I've felt, there is little difference in the ass itself. I find men tend to be much firmer all around than women (as has been noted in a previous post). Men tend to have more muscular asses and thighs.

As has been noted previously one aspect that is undeniable is the presence of a pair of balls on a man - they change the perceived sensation markedly.

Without doubt the single greatest discriminator is willingness of the partner. Being "fucked back" makes it so much better than fucking somebody who merely submits. I've had active partners of both sexes, but more frequently the guys really want and enjoy a good fucking in their ass. I know I do!

 

[liqueur]

I'm disappointed this thread never got more traction. I'm very curious too, so maybe we can revive the thread?

To make the question more up to date, we should also ask, “And what about transfolk?” (more specifically, transfolk who are in transition)

(I can't answer, myself. I've never fucked a man or a transwoman. I've ass-fucked a couple of women, but otherwise I've only been on the receiving end.)

 

[BillyWalrus]

I'm disappointed this thread never got more traction. I'm very curious too, so maybe we can revive the thread?

To make the question more up to date, we should also ask, “And what about transfolk?” (more specifically, transfolk who are in transition)

(I can't answer, myself. I've never fucked a man or a transwoman. I've ass-fucked a couple of women, but otherwise I've only been on the receiving end.)

I have only ass fucked a trans woman and various women. They had slight differences but a hole is a hole.

 

[liqueur]

a hole is a hole.

I think mine is more eager than some...