Judaism AMA

[JohnEngelman]

They excel at fighting those incapable of fighting back: the elderly, the very young and the infirm.

Against armed people? Not so much.

In 1948 and 1967 Israel fought the entire Arab world and won. In 1967 we helped the Israelis. The Soviet Union helped the Arabs.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Richard Lynn, The Chosen People: A Study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement, Washington Summit Publishers, 2011, 408 pp., book review by Byran M. Roth

The Chosen People: A study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement is the most recent work of Richard Lynn dealing with group differences in IQ and their ramifications. As in all of his previous work over the past decade, he substantiates his arguments with huge quantities of empirical data. He advances his positions dispassionately and lets the facts speak for themselves, which they do in impressive, nearly irrefutable fashion. In his previous books he examined racial and ethnic differences in IQ for many groups. The Chosen People is a case study of one distinct group that has shown remarkably similar patterns of achievement in a wide variety of settings.

Professor Lynn begins by pointing out the extraordinary success of Jews in almost every field. In the 19th century the restrictions that had prevented most Jews from advanced nonreligious study began to be lifted in most of Western Europe, and by mid-century, “people began to observe that Jews were outstandingly successful, and began to speculate that this was attributable to their intellect.” (Unless otherwise noted, all quotations are from Professor Lynn.)

At that time the great bulk of Jews were still living in Eastern Europe, but owing to pogroms beginning around 1880, Jews began migrating to Western Europe and especially to the United States. They formed part of the massive immigration to the US in the period from 1880 to 1924.

Prof. Lynn writes:


The development of IQ tests confirmed the impression that Jews were unusually intelligent, and Professor Lynn’s extensive review of the literature indicates that Jews in the US have an average IQ of 110 compared to 100 for other Europeans. This would help account for their outstanding performance in a variety of fields. Though Jews are only about 0.2 percent of the world population, half the world’s chess grandmasters, for example, and 16 percent of Nobel Prize winners for science have been Jews. For Professor Lynn, the purpose of his book “is to document and explain such achievements.”

Allllllllll that "intelligence"....and yet your average Jew seems fundamentally incapable of understanding why starving children via government policy is wrong.

They also have basic comprehension problems with regard to the definition of certain words and phrases, such as "ethnic cleansing", "genocide" and most of all, "Pogroms".

 

[RobDownSouth]

In 1948 and 1967 Israel fought the entire Arab world and won. In 1967 we helped the Israelis. The Soviet Union helped the Arabs.

Once again, LeTrouve invokes LePivot to 1948.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Allllllllll that "intelligence"....and yet your average Jew seems fundamentally incapable of understanding why starving children via government policy is wrong.

They also have basic comprehension problems with regard to the definition of certain words and phrases, such as "ethnic cleansing", "genocide" and most of all, "Pogroms".

Japanese children starved after the attack on Pearl harbor. After World War II Germans were ethnically cleansed from Prussia.

There are costs to starting wars and losing them.

 

[JohnEngelman]

 

[Lazaran]

They excel at fighting those incapable of fighting back: the elderly, the very young and the infirm.

Against armed people? Not so much.

You might recall Bibi removed virtually ALL Israeli Genocide Troops from the Gaza/Israel border and replaced them with automated high speed machine gun turrets manned from bunkers 35km away. 11 of 12 of these towers failed miserably when Hamas decided they'd had enough of being malnourished and starved in October 2023. Not Bibi's best decision, but of course it wasn't his fault.

(The Civilian Project Hannibal Order of October 7th WAS Bibi's fault, though).

Genocidal Israel has largely been content to drop lethal American bombs on "high priority" Gazan targets: Hospitals, schools, day care centers, mosques and lately food distribution centers.

Killing comes easy when you have zero collective national shame.

• Free Palestine.
• Boycott.
• Divest.
• Sanction.
• White Phosphorus.

Yep, Hamas & the "Palestinian civilians" (and Iran, Russia, China, Hezbollah, the Houthis, etc) bear ZERO responsibility for the continuing crisis and problems with aid distribution… It’s ALL Israel…



As for the bullet points at the end of your post:

• Free Palestine = Destroy Israel.
• Boycott = Starve Israel.
• Divest = Starve Israel.
• Sanction = Starve Israel.
• White Phosphorus = Genocide Israel.



Look at what you have been reduced to:

Derpy level meltdowns.

SAD!!!



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yep, Hamas & the "Palestinian civilians" (and Iran, Russia, China, Hezbollah, the Houthis, etc) bear ZERO responsibility for the continuing crisis and problems with aid distribution… It’s ALL Israel…

Indeed it is.

Whaddaboutisms aside, there is no moral justification whatsoever for the deliberate starvation of innocent children. Genocidal Israel's policy of deliberate starvation is a crime against humanity.

As for the bullet points at the end of your post:

• Free Palestine = Destroy Israel.
• Boycott = Starve Israel.
• Divest = Starve Israel.
• Sanction = Starve Israel.
• White Phosphorus = Genocide Israel.

Ayup! Genocidal Israel needs to learn that actions have consequences, particularly if they consider themselves a "first world nation" (and they are most certainly NOT acting like one right now).

This is simply a proposed sliding scale of consequences for genocidal Israel's insistence that it has some sort of perverted "right" to commit ethnic cleansing, pogroms, genocide and starvation on other people at the whim of their government.

• Free Palestine
• Boycott
• Divest
• Sanction
• White Phosphorus

Look at what you have been reduced to:

Derpy level meltdowns.

SAD!!!

Meltdown? no, not me. I'm just a good person with a moral grounding. Not many people in this thread can claim this with any sort of credibility.
So basically, I've just got a difference of opinion.
Oh, and if anyone still supports genocidal Israel's "right to starve people", I have a difference of opinion AND I hold the moral high ground.
Full stop.

 

[Lazaran]

Ayup! Genocidal Israel needs to learn that actions have consequences,

The irony is palpable…



And even MOAR ironically, I used to be firmly committed to the “two state solution” plan, but ever since Hamas AND Iran, Syria, Russia, China, Hezbollah, the Houthis, etc, committed to their “final solution” plan to eliminate Israel AND the US, etc, with 10/7, Ukraine, helping Trump get elected, undermining Europe, Africa, South America, Asia, the Pacific Islands, etc, I have committed to the preservation of Israel AND the FREE west.

Losing the world over the "Palestinians" (many of whom would see us AND OUR CHILDREN dead) is a bad (the WORST) bargain.



Your ironic / hypocritical arguments & appeals to emotion are NOT persuasive (unless you are trying to persuade some decent, intelligent individuals to strengthen their support for Israel as a counter to your unhinged bias against Israel).



Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Today is Tisha B’av where we mourn the destruction of the First and Second Temples in Jerusalem.

 

[Hel_Books]

Oh, and if anyone still supports genocidal Israel's "right to starve people", I have a difference of opinion AND I hold the moral high ground.
Full stop.

Hamas wants to exterminate all the Jews, and not just in the Middle East, if "Globalize the Intifada!" is the slogan.

Israel wants to live in peace.

So what we have seen for nearly a century has been sort of a compromise position: lots of Jews killed, but not ALL of them, and some years of peace and some years of war.

Now, is this compromise working to everyone's satisfaction?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hamas wants to exterminate all the Jews, and not just in the Middle East, if "Globalize the Intifada!" is the slogan.

Israel wants to live in peace.

So what we have seen for nearly a century has been sort of a compromise position: lots of Jews killed, but not ALL of them, and some years of peace and some years of war.

Now, is this compromise working to everyone's satisfaction?

I see you're still pounding the drum trying to garner support for the morality and righteousness of starving innocent civilians.

How is that working out for you?

Nothing you said above in you post justifies the government-sponsored campaign to starve innocent masses.
Not.
One.
Thing.

And your notion that genocidal "Israel wants to live in peace" is simply not the least bit credible in light of current events.
Genocidal Israel in 2025 exists solely to inflict pain, suffering and death upon civilians.
Genocidal Israel rationalizes this as payback for indignities they have suffered for the past millennia or so.
"Vengeance" is a shitty way to run a country, but with each passing day, more and more people around the world have belatedly realized that genocidal is, in fact, a shitty country.

So what should the world do to hold genocidal Israel responsible for their war crimes?

Boycott.
Divest.
Sanction.
War Crimes Tribunal.

 

[Lazaran]

So what should the world do to hold genocidal Israel responsible for their war crimes?

So what should the world do to hold "genocidal Ukraine" responsible for their "war crimes"???



I mean, "genocidal Ukraine" is the perfect contemporary example of another country who was savagely attacked (like Israel) and responded / retaliated by inflicting OVER ONE MILLION CASUALTIES AND APOCALYPTIC DESTRUCTION ON THE RUSSIANS. How awful…



(And before you point to the apparent imbalance in size & capabilities between Israel vs Gaza, as opposed to Ukraine vs Russia, I would suggest you consider the full size & scope of the threat Israel faces. Compare the size of Israel’s enemies in the region vs Israel and the size of Russia vs Ukraine, and the equivalency is even MOAR apt).



If it was only “Israel vs Gaza”, the pro - "Palestine" pearl clutchers would have a legitimate argument - but it isn’t only “Israel vs Gaza”, and NOTHING excuses 10/7.



Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Indeed it is.

Whaddaboutisms aside, there is no moral justification whatsoever for the deliberate starvation of innocent children. Genocidal Israel's policy of deliberate starvation is a crime against humanity.


Ayup! Genocidal Israel needs to learn that actions have consequences, particularly if they consider themselves a "first world nation" (and they are most certainly NOT acting like one right now).

This is simply a proposed sliding scale of consequences for genocidal Israel's insistence that it has some sort of perverted "right" to commit ethnic cleansing, pogroms, genocide and starvation on other people at the whim of their government.

• Free Palestine
• Boycott
• Divest
• Sanction
• White Phosphorus



Meltdown? no, not me. I'm just a good person with a moral grounding. Not many people in this thread can claim this with any sort of credibility.
So basically, I've just got a difference of opinion.
Oh, and if anyone still supports genocidal Israel's "right to starve people", I have a difference of opinion AND I hold the moral high ground.
Full stop.

"Free Palestine" means "destroy Israel." Why should we care more about the Palestinians than the Israelis?

Since the death of Eusebius in 339 A.D. the world of the mind has heard nothing from the Palestinians but dead silence. Compare that with the intellectual contributions of the Jews. Compare the state of Israel with what the state of Palestine was.

 

[000zing]

"Free Palestine" means "destroy Israel." Why should we care more about the Palestinians than the Israelis?

Since the death of Eusebius in 339 A.D. the world of the mind has heard nothing from the Palestinians but dead silence. Compare that with the intellectual contributions of the Jews. Compare the state of Israel with what the state of Palestine was.

Oh yes... that definitely allows Jews to murder all around them... great, great argument...

 

[AveryElle]

• Free Palestine
• Boycott
• Divest
• Sanction
• White Phosphorus

Might I suggest you start divesting?
Get off your phone, the internet, all tech where Israel has significant involvement? That would be a great start.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Might I suggest you start divesting?
Get off your phone, the internet, all tech where Israel has significant involvement? That would be a great start.

That sounds like a perfectly wonderful suggestion.

Can you supply me with the name(s) of Israeli companies that sell electronic consumer products? I will make a list of Israeli corporations that I will "never again!" do business with.

I'm aware of some of the "bigger" companies that profit from genocidal Israel's starvation campaign:

• Chevron
• Texaco
• Barclays Bank
• Expedia

but I'd welcome any additions you might have to the list.

(Confession: I still use my American Airlines branded Barclays Bank card for travel purchases, I live in Texas where American airlines has a hub, and the card gives me free my first checked bag free).

I don't think genocidal Israel has anything significant to do with the Internet (other than filing complaints against sites they disapprove of). The genocidal Israelis seem content to pressure websites that permit content providers that provide fair and balanced coverage of the ongoing starvation campaign in Gaza.

 

[Noor]

Today is Tisha B’av where we mourn the destruction of the First and Second Temples in Jerusalem.

And fast.
At camp one year, I got so hungry. I ate some of my toothpaste.

 

[AveryElle]

That sounds like a perfectly wonderful suggestion.

Can you supply me with the name(s) of Israeli companies that sell electronic consumer products? I will make a list of Israeli corporations that I will "never again!" do business with.

I'm aware of some of the "bigger" companies that profit from genocidal Israel's starvation campaign:

• Chevron
• Texaco
• Barclays Bank
• Expedia

but I'd welcome any additions you might have to the list.

(Confession: I still use my American Airlines branded Barclays Bank card for travel purchases, I live in Texas where American airlines has a hub, and the card gives me free my first checked bag free).

I don't think genocidal Israel has anything significant to do with the Internet (other than filing complaints against sites they disapprove of). The genocidal Israelis seem content to pressure websites that permit content providers that provide fair and balanced coverage of the ongoing starvation campaign in Gaza.

I'm not doing the work for you, but:
google
apple
Waymo
cisco
amazon web services
waze

Israel has a ton of tech backend work (and not back end).

Also, drip irrigation. Don't use that.

there ya go

 

[AveryElle]

(Confession: I still use my American Airlines branded Barclays Bank card for travel purchases, I live in Texas where American airlines has a hub, and the card gives me free my first checked bag free).

your confession means your discomfort is worth more than your loud principles.

 

[RobDownSouth]

your confession means your discomfort is worth more than your loud principles.

*shrug* I'm not perfect, but I never claimed to be.

I DO know that a genocidal government's policy of starving innocent children is an immoral criminal act...,can you claim the same?

Tell us.


In the meantime:

• Boycott
• Divest
• Sanction
• War Crimes Tribunal

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm not doing the work for you, but:
google
apple
Waymo
cisco
amazon web services
waze

Israel has a ton of tech backend work (and not back end).

Also, drip irrigation. Don't use that.

there ya go

I picked one of your purported supporters of genocidal Israel at random.
Apple.

Google AI tells us

Apple has been a subject of discussion within the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions) movement, particularly due to its alleged financial and operational ties to Israel. According to some sources, Apple has donated significant amounts of money to organizations that support the Israeli military and illegal settlements, including the Friends of the IDF, HaYovel, One Israel Fund, the Jewish National Fund, and IsraelGives. These donations have raised concerns among some activists who argue that Apple's actions indirectly support the Israeli government's policies in the occupied territories.

Additionally, Apple has been criticized for its research and development (R&D) operations in Israel, which are seen as contributing to the country's tech sector—a key driver of the Israeli economy. Apple has R&D centers in cities like Haifa, Herzliya, and Jerusalem, and the company has been accused of providing technological support to the Israeli military through these operations. Some activists also point out that Apple's employee donation-matching program has been used to fund organizations linked to the Israeli military, further fueling calls for a boycott.

Despite these criticisms, the BDS movement has not universally included Apple on its primary boycott list. Some argue that the movement focuses on a select group of companies that are perceived to have the most direct ties to the occupation, and Apple may not be among them. However, there are alternative platforms like the "No Thanks" app and "Disoccupied.com" that encourage individuals to boycott a broader range of companies, including Apple.

So yeah, no.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Oh yes... that definitely allows Jews to murder all around them... great, great argument...

The Jews only kill people who want to destroy Israel.

 

[AveryElle]

*shrug* I'm not perfect, but I never claimed to be.

I DO know that a genocidal government's policy of starving innocent children is an immoral criminal act...,can you claim the same?

Tell us.


In the meantime:

• Boycott
• Divest
• Sanction
• War Crimes Tribunal

But you’re not willing to do those things yourself

 

[AveryElle]

I picked one of your purported supporters of genocidal Israel at random.
Apple.

Google AI tells us


So yeah, no.

I picked one of your purported supporters of genocidal Israel at random.
Apple.

Google AI tells us


So yeah, no.

They’re not on the boycott list because it would be inconvenient. They’re focused on Coke.
Also Google AI is providing support to the Israeli government.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/01/21/google-ai-israel-war-hamas-attack-gaza/

 

[JohnEngelman]

Allllllllll that "intelligence"....and yet your average Jew seems fundamentally incapable of understanding why starving children via government policy is wrong.

They also have basic comprehension problems with regard to the definition of certain words and phrases, such as "ethnic cleansing", "genocide" and most of all, "Pogroms".

The Palestinians should have been intelligent enough to realize that if they attacked Israel the Israeli response would be unfortunate for them.