Vermont Citizen Detained In Houston On Return Flight From Nicaragua.

[MajorRewrite]

The MAGA sheep are desperately trying to deflect from the Trump administration’s habit of harassing and detaining American citizens (and tourists) at airports.

The government goons at airports have quotas for detaining/harassing people, and they do anything to meet their quotas.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Real Americans don’t support harboring criminals whether citizens or illegal aliens.

Dear crazy person,

The news article in the OP had nothing to do with “harboring criminals”.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

 

[icanhelp1]

The MAGA sheep are desperately trying to deflect from the Trump administration’s habit of harassing and detaining American citizens (and tourists) at airports.

The government goons at airports have quotas for detaining/harassing people, and they do anything to meet their quotas.

-Why don't you add some context.

 

[icanhelp1]

The MAGA sheep are desperately trying to deflect from the Trump administration’s habit of harassing and detaining American citizens (and tourists) at airports.

The government goons at airports have quotas for detaining/harassing people, and they do anything to meet their quotas.

I read the article, it's filled with words, lots and lots of words. Is there a clue in the article as to why border patrol detained him. Was his brother breaking the law. Americans are stopped on occasion when they arrive from an unfriendly nation.

Even if the detainment was erroneous someone will be charged and punished. The possibility of a mistake and you think we should shitcan the whole system. How about if Biden had done his job and secured the border. How about shitcan sanctuary shitholes, ICE, CBP, ERO, HSI wouldn't have to be so aggressive. Blame the Marxist politicians.

 

[dkovic77]

I read the article, it's filled with words, lots and lots of words. Is there a clue in the article as to why border patrol detained him. Was his brother breaking the law. Americans are stopped on occasion when they arrive from an unfriendly nation.

Even if the detainment was erroneous someone will be charged and punished. The possibility of a mistake and you think we should shitcan the whole system. How about if Biden had done his job and secured the border. How about shitcan sanctuary shitholes, ICE, CBP, ERO, HSI wouldn't have to be so aggressive. Blame the Marxist politicians.

Look at you, a whole article you read!

You doing the summer reading challenge at your local library??? That’s usually for kids you know-but I’m glad you are getting into places with better information.

Good job Traitor Tater!

 

[Saint_Ann]

Who the hell goes to Nicaragalua? (s/p).

 

[YDB95]

18 USC 1924 is a statute.

You always insist that Trump is not a rapist because his conviction was civil rather than criminal. Therefore it stands to reason that Hillary Clinton is not a felon because she has never even been charged with a felony, never mind convicted.

And what she did was no different than other secretaries of state, notably Colin Powell, have done. Which doesn't make it necessarily right, but it's only fair to ask why only she ever faced any scrutiny over it.

 

[icanhelp1]

You always insist that Trump is not a rapist because his conviction was civil rather than criminal. Therefore it stands to reason that Hillary Clinton is not a felon because she has never even been charged with a felony, never mind convicted.

And what she did was no different than other secretaries of state, notably Colin Powell, have done. Which doesn't make it necessarily right, but it's only fair to ask why only she ever faced any scrutiny over it.

Here’s the difference;

• “Evolution of Technology and Policy: When Powell served as Secretary of State (2001-2005), the State Department's email system for unclassified messages was antiquated and not widely adopted, according to NBC News. Email use within the government was less common at the time. By the time Clinton took office in 2009, a comparable and more developed email system for unclassified messages was in place. Furthermore, the rules and regulations regarding the use of personal email for official business were less clearly defined during Powell's tenure. A State Department inspector general report released in May of 2016 stated that by the time Clinton took office, the rules were clear that using a private server in such a manner was neither allowed nor encouraged due to "significant security risks".

The other issue is the destruction of subpoenaed evidences which is in violation of statute 18 USC § 1519 and § 1512

In summary, while both used personal email for official communications, Powell's use predated clearer policies and more readily available government systems, and he did not establish a private server to handle his email traffic, unlike Clinton.

 

[YDB95]

Here’s the difference;

• “Evolution of Technology and Policy: When Powell served as Secretary of State (2001-2005), the State Department's email system for unclassified messages was antiquated and not widely adopted, according to NBC News. Email use within the government was less common at the time. By the time Clinton took office in 2009, a comparable and more developed email system for unclassified messages was in place. Furthermore, the rules and regulations regarding the use of personal email for official business were less clearly defined during Powell's tenure. A State Department inspector general report released in May of 2016 stated that by the time Clinton took office, the rules were clear that using a private server in such a manner was neither allowed nor encouraged due to "significant security risks".

The other issue is the destruction of subpoenaed evidences which is in violation of statute 18 USC § 1519 and § 1512

In summary, while both used personal email for official communications, Powell's use predated clearer policies and more readily available government systems, and he did not establish a private server to handle his email traffic, unlike Clinton.

Powell himself later said Clinton consulted with him on the matter and he saw nothing wrong with what she did.

 

[Baztrachian]

Bro the thread is about an American citizen being detailed.

So when the dude got detailed did the Border Patrol steam clean his carpet and then buff and polish his paint? If so that's some FULL SERVICE border protection!

 

[eric_erosfan]

Quote from your article:



Two things here:

1. What the fuck was he doing bringing confidential school district records to Nicaragua?

2. Customs and Border Patrol has the legal authority to compel you to disclose user names and passwords at ports of entry.
* https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-search-electronic-devices

The mere fact that he took a government device to a sanctioned/embargoed country is alone a valid reason to stop him, question him, and search his devices to find out what information may have been exposed to an unfriendly regime.

https://ofac.treasury.gov/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/nicaragua-related-sanctions

Can you cite where in the Constitution illegal search and seizure is allowed?

 

[Baztrachian]

Can you cite where in the Constitution illegal search and seizure is allowed?

The Congress and the Courts already went through this and decided that you don't have any rights at a port of entry and further, your Fourth Amendment rights are all but null and void if you live within 100 air miles of a coastline or border.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...n-checkpoints-100-miles-us-borders-rcna196464

I don't like this but that's the way it is.

Note that in this particular case the issue is a government-owned laptop and government-owned data on it.

Wilmer Chavarria's Fourth Amendment rights would not extend to government-owned devices in his possession.

 

[eric_erosfan]

The Congress and the Courts already went through this and decided that you don't have any rights at a port of entry and further, your Fourth Amendment rights are all but null and void if you live within 100 air miles of a coastline or border.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...n-checkpoints-100-miles-us-borders-rcna196464

I don't like this but that's the way it is.

Note that in this particular case the issue is a government-owned laptop and government-owned data on it.

Wilmer Chavarria's Fourth Amendment rights would not extend to government-owned devices in his possession.

In 1976 the court was not thinking of password protected electronic devices. Just the right to stop and visually search. I feel the current interpretation could be challenged.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Real Americans don’t support harboring criminals whether citizens or illegal aliens.

You voted for a criminal.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Real Americans continue to oppose the harassment and detention of American citizens at airports, regardless of the attempted deflection by MAGA sheep.

 

[73Seahawks]

I believe I heard about this news story about a few days ago and was shocked.

 

[Baztrachian]

In 1976 the court was not thinking of password protected electronic devices. Just the right to stop and visually search. I feel the current interpretation could be challenged.

It could be but frankly it will need a corresponding Federal law to truly protect 4th Amendment rights because under the current situation even the ACLU isn't too hopeful about stopping this.

https://www.aclutx.org/en/news/can-border-agents-search-your-electronic-devices-its-complicated

The government claims the authority to search all electronic devices at the border, no matter your legal status in the country or whether they have any reason to suspect that you’ve committed a crime. You can state that you don’t consent to such a search, but unfortunately this likely won’t prevent Customs and Border Protection (CBP) from taking your phone.

If you’ve given CBP agents the password to your device (or if you don’t have one), they might conduct what’s often called a “basic search” on the spot. They might also download the full contents of your device and save a copy of your data. Since 2018, they are not required to return your device before you leave the airport or other port of entry, and they might choose to send it off for a more thorough “advanced” or “forensic” search. Barring “extenuating circumstances,” they claim the authority to hold onto your device for five days — though “extenuating circumstances” is an undefined term in this context, and this period can be extended by seven-day increments. We’ve received reports of phones being held for weeks or even months.

The best practice then is to buy a burner phone and then buy a local SIM card when you get to your destination. When it's time to return to the US just ditch the phone before boarding the return flight.

 

[icanhelp1]

It could be but frankly it will need a corresponding Federal law to truly protect 4th Amendment rights because under the current situation even the ACLU isn't too hopeful about stopping this.

https://www.aclutx.org/en/news/can-border-agents-search-your-electronic-devices-its-complicated

The government claims the authority to search all electronic devices at the border, no matter your legal status in the country or whether they have any reason to suspect that you’ve committed a crime. You can state that you don’t consent to such a search, but unfortunately this likely won’t prevent Customs and Border Protection (CBP) from taking your phone.

If you’ve given CBP agents the password to your device (or if you don’t have one), they might conduct what’s often called a “basic search” on the spot. They might also download the full contents of your device and save a copy of your data. Since 2018, they are not required to return your device before you leave the airport or other port of entry, and they might choose to send it off for a more thorough “advanced” or “forensic” search. Barring “extenuating circumstances,” they claim the authority to hold onto your device for five days — though “extenuating circumstances” is an undefined term in this context, and this period can be extended by seven-day increments. We’ve received reports of phones being held for weeks or even months.

The best practice then is to buy a burner phone and then buy a local SIM card when you get to your destination. When it's time to return to the US just ditch the phone before boarding the return flight.

How many warrantless search and seizures of electronic devices actually happen? I can't imagine TSP would search those devices without a warrant. If probable cause is evident I would think that the person would be detained till FBI agents with a warrant show up.

National airport have a significant presence of FBI and operate within the CASP program.

 

[Baztrachian]

How many warrantless search and seizures of electronic devices actually happen? I can't imagine TSP would search those devices without a warrant. If probable cause is evident I would think that the person would be detained till FBI agents with a warrant show up.

National airport have a significant presence of FBI and operate within the CASP program.

The border cops are only limited by time and personnel as to how many searches they can do. Warrants are not a concern for them and the courts have made that clear.

 

[icanhelp1]

The border cops are only limited by time and personnel as to how many searches they can do. Warrants are not a concern for them and the courts have made that clear.

I was responding to #28 airport harassment. I would imagine anyone crossing our border illegally can be thoroughly searched at anytime and without a warrant.

 

[Rightguide]

What you cited isn't a criminal statute. And two, she wasn't indicted let alone convicted, was she? (Unlike Trump, who's a convicted felon)

https://prospect.org/power/hillary-indicted-be-objective-legal-analysis/

18 USC 371 is a criminal statute.

 

[Rightguide]

Here's How Many Sex Offenders ICE Has Arrested...in Just One City​

Katie Pavlich | July 29, 2025 10:30 AM


As the Department of Homeland Security continues to carry out President Donald Trump's mass deportation of criminal illegal aliens in cities across the country, the number of sex offenders being taken off the streets is astonishing. In Houston alone, more than 200 child sex offenders have been arrested since January.

In June DHS announced the arrest of an illegal alien who was not only a sex offender, but attempted to murder an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent with his car.

“Robert Carlos Munoz is a child sex offender and illegal alien from Guatemala whoattempted to evade law enforcement and dragged an ICE officer 50 yards down the street with his car. Thankfully, the officer is expected to make a full recovery,” DHS released in a statement. “This illegal alien has been committing violent crimes in the U.S. for nearly 15 years. He is a convicted child sex offender who has a rap sheet that includes an arrest for domestic assault and multiple driving offenses. Under Governor Tim Walz, this sicko was living in Minnesota without consequence. Instead of comparing ICE law enforcement to the Gestapo, Governor Walz should be thanking our brave law enforcement for arresting these violent criminals.”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...ers-ice-has-arrestedin-just-one-city-n2661093

Houston is Rob's home town. He should be thankful.