Dipping my toe into loving wives

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Then again, I'm not sure I'm using the term the way others do. I put the women in positions of decision making and control of their own choices.

 

[Qky75]

I have one, but its extreme. I was pissed off in general when I wrote it.

Just finished it. I liked it. The humiliation scene was well played. Thank you.

 

[lovecraft68]

Just finished it. I liked it. The humiliation scene was well played. Thank you.

Thanks, it was a bit hell hath fury over the top, but that's what most of the BTB stories are so I was making a point.

 

[Qky75]

Thanks, it was a bit hell hath fury over the top, but that's what most of the BTB stories are so I was making a point.

That's precisely what I like. There's a challenge to destroying the life without pulling yourself down with them.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

"Dipping my toe into loving wives" - I thought I was getting an advert for a new kink!

 

[lovecraft68]

That's precisely what I like. There's a challenge to destroying the life without pulling yourself down with them.

The comments are hilarious "and then Greg called the cops and her and Chad were arrested and...." or the "And then Greg found Chad and..."

Yeah, okay, tough guy, these people aren't real LOL.

 

[lc69hunter]

I recently posted one in LW, designed to piss off a certain segment of commenters. It did, and my initial scores were under 2, but have climbed to 2.4 as others have read and saved my story to favorites. The frustrating thing? I opened with an essay type opening, talking about infidelity in the real world, and even quoted Robert Heinlein, as to the fact that monogamy was a cultural and social construct, then when into the fact that I had been with 14 married women, and why and how, and even blamed men for breaking their marriage vows first, by not giving her what he promised in his vows. They went apeshit crazy, not even bothering to have read or commented on the first half of the story.

My question is this. Why, when here on Lit, we have rape, murder, non-consent, fetish, incest, and other kinky things, is infidelity, especially by women, the only unpardonable sin?

 

[Lifestyle66]

I recently posted one in LW, designed to piss off a certain segment of commenters. It did, and my initial scores were under 2, but have climbed to 2.4 as others have read and saved my story to favorites. The frustrating thing? I opened with an essay type opening, talking about infidelity in the real world, and even quoted Robert Heinlein, as to the fact that monogamy was a cultural and social construct, then when into the fact that I had been with 14 married women, and why and how, and even blamed men for breaking their marriage vows first, by not giving her what he promised in his vows. They went apeshit crazy, not even bothering to have read or commented on the first half of the story.

My question is this. Why, when here on Lit, we have rape, murder, non-consent, fetish, incest, and other kinky things, is infidelity, especially by women, the only unpardonable sin?

My story "Cheated Wives Club" was rated 4.0 with 105 votes and over 9K views, and no wife-bashing comments in LW.

So, I think the audience there doesn't care for cheating husbands, either. The wife basically becomes a high-end hooker when she finds her husband cheats. She joins a club where many of the neighborhood wives are all doing the same when their husbands are stepping out with a girlfriend.


One of the issues with trying to gauge the audience is the authors here in the AH make assumptions. We can't compare the reactions to any one story with another, unless the stories are otherwise IDENTICAL. Subtle triggers within any particular story can change the reaction in many of the readers, without the author intending to do so.

My latest story has a shitload of triggers to set off negative reactions in people around the world! Some will LOVE it, while most will HATE it for good reasons, because it contains things which they can't possibly like!

The MC talks about not letting go of his girlfriend because she's a "great piece of ass".
They have cheating wives and gangbangs.
When one guy says: "So, I'm just to accept that I'm a cuckold!" the MC replies: "Since WHEN do YOU need to prove anything to a bunch of name-calling pussies?!" {Take THAT, trolls!]

I think most readers won't make it through to the end before 1-bombing it, because they can't comprehend where the MC is coming from, even though it's thoroughly explained.

The story was written as a tribute to those who serve in the military. And people ARE hating it! Currently at 2.79/144 with over 7K views, and it's only been public for about 40-hours! It will be one of my lower rated ones. But fuck'em if they can't take it!

The point is: With so many different triggers, I can't make assumptions about WHY any particular 1-bomb was dropped!

 

[dirk2024]

My question about Loving Wives, is there a good category for genuinely loving wives? Romance doesn't seem quite right for an erotica story and Erotic Couplings doesn't seem to do the subject justice.

 

[Lifestyle66]

My question about Loving Wives, is there a good category for genuinely loving wives? Romance doesn't seem quite right for an erotica story and Erotic Couplings doesn't seem to do the subject justice.

If you post a good story of a loving wife and there's no cheating, it may do well in Loving Wives.

One of my first stories was posted in Feb 2021 in LW, and it's rated 3.8/1.1k votes and 37K views! It's a 750-word story which is a negative, and I am (and was even worse) a shitty writer. It has no cheating and is about the wife giving her husband a BJ in the car after he picks her up from the airport. So, I think that's an appropriate and good score.

 

[Actingup]

I'm not as experienced as some of the other commentators here, but I would say that in one sense, Loving Wives can be treated like any other category - respect your audience and try and write a good story.

Below are my top stories sorted by the number of views. The top three are in Loving Wives. Don't worry about the score or whether they're 'HOT'. Those are (in general) real people who are taking the time to read your story and reflect on it. They are giving you their time. Try and make it worth their while.

For what it's worth, the top two are 'burn the bastard', and the third is a rather silly swapping-to-get-pregnant story that proved divisive but was still enjoyed by heaps of readers. I also have a three part series in LW that didn't do so well - it started with a cuckold scene that much of the audience didn't recover from!

 

[MyrrdinCCR]

Since I'm a fairly new writer, I was privately chastised by someone suggesting that LW was NOT a good place to start. Maybe not, but I had the idea and that's what got me started.

 

[whenagain]

I've often read negative things on here about how harsh LW readers can be, so I decided to run a little experiment based upon what I've read in the forums.

I knocked up a simple short story, I put very little effort into it, and most was written while a tad tipsy. It touched on stuff I know LW readers just love. The husband was loyal and hard working but unsuccessful in his career. While his wife dealt with his failure by paying homeless guys to have sex with her. I knew LW readers love a happy ending, so I had her discover STD clinics are a great place to pick up hot guys.

I expected it to bomb, but it actually did better than I thought.

in less than a week, it racked up 19.1k views, that's more than some of my good stories.

It had 565 votes, that's nearly 3% of readers, a lot higher than usual. The score of 2.8 is low, but I was honestly expecting 1%. I think this proves many LW readers fantasy about hobosexuality. It also suggests it's OK to cheat if they are lower than your husband.

There were 21 comments. Usually, I just get a few the first week. Surprisingly, a few were actually positive telling me they gave me 5 stars. Most weren't as nice, but at least they took the time, which means I must have touched them and improved their lives, and isn't that what it's all about?

I'll definitely be writing another LW story, this time sober and actually putting effort into it, perhaps a nice sharing one.

https://www.literotica.com/s/a-good-and-wise-wife

Sometimes the comments on these stories say more about the guy commenting than the story.

I’d definitely read more of your work.

 

[Britva415]

If you post a good story of a loving wife and there's no cheating, it may do well in Loving Wives

Did you mean to say “no cheating” or “no extramarital sex?”

Because the entire premise of the category according to its description was supposed to have been about consensual extramarital stuff. But that’s “cheating” no matter how mutually consensual, according to the readers who comment.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Did you mean to say “no cheating” or “no extramarital sex?”

Because the entire premise of the category according to its description was supposed to have been about consensual extramarital stuff. But that’s “cheating” no matter how mutually consensual, according to the readers who comment.

In my LW story published just less than two years ago, there's extra-marital sex but no cheating:

"A Dare at the Nude Resort" "Husband watches his horny wife and her boy-toy in a restroom."

It's rated 4.13/263 with over 36K views.

So, there's some flexibility to the LW audience. Sometimes, it's about balance. At the end of the story, the MC husband is told to save his energy, because in another week, he will be doing his wife and the other guy's young wife in a threesome.

 

[Britva415]

In my LW story published just less than two years ago, there's extra-marital sex but no cheating:

"A Dare at the Nude Resort" "Husband watches his horny wife and her boy-toy in a restroom."

It's rated 4.13/263 with over 36K views.

So, there's some flexibility to the LW audience. Sometimes, it's about balance. At the end of the story, the MC husband is told to save his energy, because in another week, he will be doing his wife and the other guy's young wife in a threesome.

Heh. Loving Two Wives!

 

[Lifestyle66]

Heh. Loving Two Wives!

Based on a few of the comments I've received in LW on my stories in the past, I think there's a portion of the "monogamy-only" faction who hate the idea of "sharing" the wife because of what they see as an imbalance. They probably believe that if they allow it, the wife can get far more sex than the husband.

And they're correct. Wives can probably get any number of men to fuck them, one right after another, while husbands are harder pressed to find willing women for sex. And even if the husband does have another woman, the husband is spent and depleted, stopping his performance. So, those husbands who know they're less attractive might feel it's okay ONLY if it's a one-to-one type of sex exchange. The wife can fuck ONE other guy ONE time, ONLY as long as the husband is also satisfied by fucking the other guy's wife. But when the husband is satisfied and worn out, the wife CANNOT keep going.

It's a hypocritical attitude if that's how those LW types think, because it shouldn't be about physical numbers limiting the actions. A better exchange would be for both the husband and wife to be sated and get their own fill each time, rather than one leaving a party early and still wanting more. "You got as much sex at that party as YOU wanted [were capable of], but I didn't!"

In my story, the husband dares his wife to pick up her boy-toy to fuck one time. Then the wife sets up a future date with just that boy-toy's wife for the husband to have fun. It's very clearly a limited one-to-one exchange for both of them, but in this case the husband might get more time to recover and have a second round.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

'Dipping your toe' into the piranha pit that is Loving Wives. May you have better luck than One-Leg Michael!

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Maybe 'dipping your toes into a loving wife' should go in Fetish.

 

[JenniferSmithJones]

"Dipping your toe into loving wives?"

That's a bold technique. We'll have to see how that plays out for you.

Sorry, my sense of humor can get a bit dopey. I saw the thread title, and that line from DodgeBall popped into my head, and lent itself to a bit of paraphrasing.

 

[RP_Goals]

I recently posted one in LW, designed to piss off a certain segment of commenters. It did, and my initial scores were under 2, but have climbed to 2.4 as others have read and saved my story to favorites. The frustrating thing? I opened with an essay type opening, talking about infidelity in the real world, and even quoted Robert Heinlein, as to the fact that monogamy was a cultural and social construct, then when into the fact that I had been with 14 married women, and why and how, and even blamed men for breaking their marriage vows first, by not giving her what he promised in his vows. They went apeshit crazy, not even bothering to have read or commented on the first half of the story.

My question is this. Why, when here on Lit, we have rape, murder, non-consent, fetish, incest, and other kinky things, is infidelity, especially by women, the only unpardonable sin?

I'm not sure it is the sin itself but the way it is presented that is unpardonable. I have thought about writing a story from my irl experience but I'm sure it would seem unrealistic to many readers. I am. Not against wives cheating when it is merited, that is not always so simple to determine however.

 

[Actingup]

Readers here…. I think it’s worth looking at @UpperNorthLeft’s ‘Out On A Limb’ (just released) to see LW at its most wholesome best. Massive engagement, huge number of comments that are largely very positive but that include fair criticisms, and a score that puts it up with a good romance in any other category but is above 99th percentile in LW. If you looked at that story in isolation, I don’t think you’d hesitate to dip your toe in the water.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Readers here…. I think it’s worth looking at @UpperNorthLeft’s ‘Out On A Limb’ (just released) to see LW at its most wholesome best. Massive engagement, huge number of comments that are largely very positive but that include fair criticisms, and a score that puts it up with a good romance in any other category but is above 99th percentile in LW. If you looked at that story in isolation, I don’t think you’d hesitate to dip your toe in the water.

I haven't read that one because it's a Long BTB story and that's why it does well in LW. Being a story about military service-connected disability is also a plus to defuse the 1-bombers.

If you want to see an average LW reaction to a similar military service story, try my story "A Band of Sisters and Brothers". It's a gangbang/sharing story. One comment says:
"I wish you had warned us this was cuck shit. I’m glad I skipped a bunch of pages."
So, they HATE extra-marital sex.

The Burn The Bitch stories are the ones which are most likely to earn a Red-H in LW.

 

[Actingup]

I haven't read that one because it's a Long BTB story and that's why it does well in LW. Being a story about military service-connected disability is also a plus to defuse the 1-bombers.

If you want to see an average LW reaction to a similar military service story, try my story "A Band of Sisters and Brothers". It's a gangbang/sharing story. One comment says:
"I wish you had warned us this was cuck shit. I’m glad I skipped a bunch of pages."
So, they HATE extra-marital sex.

The Burn The Bitch stories are the ones which are most likely to earn a Red-H in LW.

Your one's now on my list, and I don't doubt that it's good. Yes, the above story does defuse the 1-bombers, which is rather apt given the source of the injury in question. And agreed that anything that smells like extra-marital sex will inflame some of them. My point is that the landmines can be navigated to unveil the warm, vulnerable hearts of most of the readership. And congratulations to @UpperNorthLeft for doing this so successfully.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Your one's now on my list, and I don't doubt that it's good. Yes, the above story does defuse the 1-bombers, which is rather apt given the source of the injury in question. And agreed that anything that smells like extra-marital sex will inflame some of them. My point is that the landmines can be navigated to unveil the warm, vulnerable hearts of most of the readership. And congratulations to @UpperNorthLeft for doing this so successfully.

But avoiding the landmines by writing the stories one faction (monogamy-only!) wants does a disservice to the others who WANT the extra-marital sex, sharing, and fun.

I just endure the shit-for-brains haters who don't bother to actually engage a brain cell and READ my story. I'm satisfied with anyone reading my stories, whether they like it or not. Those who open the story to merely click a 1-star and close it are the trolls. But hating is all they have in their pathetic life!