Non native speakers and AI

[KittyOfSteele]

I think you nailed the red line when we try to distinguish between a tool and getting artificial aid. The tool is just a tool if it doesn't limit your learning and development. That is why I don't agree with some people here who criticize the usage of spelling, grammar, and punctuation tools (such as Grammarly Basic).
Using AI avoids learning and development almost entirely. You are just letting a machine do the work for you. The product isn't even your own work. Using spelling tools makes you learn. When I type something, the tool lets me know when I misspell. After I get corrected a couple of times, I'll remember, I'll learn. I likely won't repeat that mistake again, tool or no tool. That's a tool that helps you develop and learn. It's important to know the difference.

In theory you're right, but judging by the majority of rejected people coming here to confess the use of Grammarly it seems that the reality is they always have the machine writing for them, aka using the machine's suggestions rather than coming up with something different themselves. That's part of the reason why I said it cripples the development of your voice earlier: because taking every single suggestion will make your story sound more like a memo than a story. Learning grammar is one thing, but losing your voice to a machine is a different animal altogether. You can't use a crutch forever.

Then here's another question: what happens if you want to make a mistake on purpose? IIRC Pet Sematary ain't no typo, and Grammarly sure does love to annoy you into nailing 100% of the text.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

In theory you're right, but judging by the majority of rejected people coming here to confess the use of Grammarly it seems that the reality is they always have the machine writing for them, aka using the machine's suggestions rather than coming up with something different themselves. That's part of the reason why I said it cripples the development of your voice earlier: because taking every single suggestion will make your story sound more like a memo than a story. Learning grammar is one thing, but losing your voice to a machine is a different animal altogether. You can't use a crutch forever.

Then here's another question: what happens if you want to make a mistake on purpose? IIRC Pet Sematary ain't no typo, and Grammarly sure does love to annoy you into nailing 100% of the text.

As with every other tool, it's about being reasonable and setting limits.

Don't let a tool rewrite your words or sentences; it's as simple as that. Do allow it to put a comma if it feels right, or correct your mispeling into misspelling, or to suggest that you making less mistakes should actually be you making fewer mistakes, and so on.

Obviously, many will choose the easy way and use advanced Grammarly options that do rewrite stuff for you, or even prompt AI to come up with a full story. But that's not the fault of the tool, just as it's not the fault of a knife if it gets used to harm someone rather than for cutting vegetables.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

As with every other tool, it's about being reasonable and setting limits.

Don't let a tool rewrite your words or sentences; it's as simple as that. Do allow it to put a comma if it feels right, or correct your mispeling into misspelling, or to suggest that you making less mistakes should actually be you making fewer mistakes, and so on.

Obviously, many will choose the easy way and use advanced Grammarly options that do rewrite stuff for you, or even prompt AI to come up with a full story. But that's not the fault of the tool, just as it's not the fault of a knife if it gets used to harm someone rather than for cutting vegetables.

I agree. Hopefully everyone who uses Grammarly and complain about AI rejection reads this.

 

[BorderKalley]

dvanced Grammarly options that do rewrite stuff for you

It can do that? but yes I agree, that's too much.