Judaism AMA

[Hel_Books]

... Give Israel credit: This was a brilliant strategic move, in retrospect, it removed Jews in Gaza ...

Looking forward to some "brilliant strategic moves" from Egypt (withdrawing moslems from the Gaza Strip and bringing them home to Egypt) and Jordan (withdrawing moslems from the West Bank).

Do you think they'll make these gestures of peace and reconciliation?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Looking forward to some "brilliant strategic moves" from Egypt (withdrawing moslems from the Gaza Strip and bringing them home to Egypt) and Jordan (withdrawing moslems from the West Bank).

Do you think they'll make these gestures of peace and reconciliation?

Your deflection snark is a tad premature.

Egypt and Jordan have no role in this particular fight as of yet, your comment presupposes that Gazans have forfeited their homeland to the genocidal Israel regime.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

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The term "antisemitism" was coined in the 19th Century as genteel alternative to "Jew-hate". The idea among race scholars at the time was that Jews could never assimilate with European culture because of their Middle Eastern features and customs. They would always be outsiders.

The man in the cartoon accusing Jews from being from Poland is dressed in the garb of someone from the Arabian peninsula. Unlike the Jews he's a foreigner to the Levant. The Arab colonizers have always tried to erase Jews and Jewish history. They even built a tacky mosque on top of the holiest site in Judaism.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Israel gave / is giving Hamas & the "Palestinian civilians who participated in the 10/7 holocaust EXACTLY what they WANTED: A massive response to the massive injury, insult, and indignity of 10/7 & the pro - "Palestinian" rallies / celebrations that kicked off while the smell of Israeli / Jewish blood and burnt flesh, and the images of raped / desecrated bodies were still fresh.

That EXPECTED / DESIRED massive response from the Israelis to Hamas & the "Palestinian civilians’" 10/7 holocaust, 10/8 rallies & celebrations, etc, set the stage / provided the opportunity for Hamas & the "Palestinian civilians" (and their naive, useful sympathizers) to make ENDLESS APPEALS TO EMOTION in hopes of undermining Israel economically & militarily through massive boycotts, divestments, and sanctions.

Pro-tip: If you're going to castigate someone for using "Endless Appeals To Emotion", you might want to do so in a post where you don't engage in the same behavior yourself

The FACT that UNWRA was PROVEN to be complicit in the 10/7 holocaust, etc, MUST be ignored as well…

The UNWRA was not compromised, nor was it EVER compromised.

The UNWRA simply released casualty figures that were completely at odds with the fictional counts published by the Israeli government press office. Because the UNWRA represented an existential threat to the Narrative, Israel set out to smear the UNWRA.

They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

In January 2024 the Israelis released an analysis of the purported "compromise" of UNWRA by Hamas forces. The mainstream press fell for the lie completely, because contrary to virtually ALL Israeli government press releases, the Israeli actually released "declassified intelligence documents" detailing exactly WHO was compromised, naming names.

The mainstream press ate it up....the Israelis actually did their verification work for them!....and soon every diaspora Jew around the world was chanting "UNWRA was compromised! Everybody knows that!". This became internalized as an "established FACT' that "everybody knew" and to question the validity of what "everybody knew" was to invite derision.

Then, a few months later in March 2024, some intrepid investigators attempted to track down these 'Hamas agents". Two had died since the report had been issued, but they located ten other "Hamas agents" (who were fired from UNWRA immediately after the Israeli report was issued).

Each of them told the same story: Yes, they signed a document affirming they were actually working for Hamas whilst employed by the UNWRA....

......and each of them (who was not aware of the others identities), said they did so because the Israeli Mossad had coerced them via "extreme persuasion techniques".

These "agents" were tortured.

Tortured by agents of the Israeli government.

As you well know, confession obtained via torture is almost always worthless. People just want the pain to stop.

This sordid scheme was documented here.

So each and every one of you who parroted the "Errybody knows UNWRA was compromised by Hamas" line was suckered by the Mossad and the Israeli government press agency.

They made fools of you.

 

[Lazaran]

Pro-tip: If you're going to castigate someone for using "Endless Appeals To Emotion", you might want to do so in a post where you don't engage in the same behavior yourself

The UNWRA was not compromised, nor was it EVER compromised.

The UNWRA simply released casualty figures that were completely at odds with the fictional counts published by the Israeli government press office. Because the UNWRA represented an existential threat to the Narrative, Israel set out to smear the UNWRA.

They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

In January 2024 the Israelis released an analysis of the purported "compromise" of UNWRA by Hamas forces. The mainstream press fell for the lie completely, because contrary to virtually ALL Israeli government press releases, the Israeli actually released "declassified intelligence documents" detailing exactly WHO was compromised, naming names.

The mainstream press ate it up....the Israelis actually did their verification work for them!....and soon every diaspora Jew around the world was chanting "UNWRA was compromised! Everybody knows that!". This became internalized as an "established FACT' that "everybody knew" and to question the validity of what "everybody knew" was to invite derision.

Then, a few months later in March 2024, some intrepid investigators attempted to track down these 'Hamas agents". Two had died since the report had been issued, but they located ten other "Hamas agents" (who were fired from UNWRA immediately after the Israeli report was issued).

Each of them told the same story: Yes, they signed a document affirming they were actually working for Hamas whilst employed by the UNWRA....

......and each of them (who was not aware of the others identities), said they did so because the Israeli Mossad had coerced them via "extreme persuasion techniques".

These "agents" were tortured.

Tortured by agents of the Israeli government.

As you well know, confession obtained via torture is almost always worthless. People just want the pain to stop.

This sordid scheme was documented here.

So each and every one of you who parroted the "Errybody knows UNWRA was compromised by Hamas" line was suckered by the Mossad and the Israeli government press agency.

They made fools of you.

JFC, Rob.

I’ve explained before that I sometimes INTENTIONALLY post in the manner I do for effect. And my posts on the Israel - Gaza conflict are largely directed at the pro-"Palestinian" crowd that gave a Clark Griswold Grand Canyon cursory glance at the 10/7 holocaust / genocide / ethnic cleansing…





There IS a fair amount of content in my posts that I stand by unequivocally, but some of my comments are INTENTIONALLY on par with what I see from the pro-"Palestinian" extremists / propagandists: dark satire, if you will.

I do the same thing to the MAGAts (and anyone else that exhibits extreme viewpoints / behaviors).



And I’ll say it again:

The "Palestinian" issue is. NOT a hill worth dying on. The "Palestinians" (and Iranians, Russians, Arab / Muslim proxies, etc) own AT LEAST (more, imho) as much of the blame as Israel for the death & destruction in the ENTIRE REGION.

Related:

The "Palestinian" issue significantly contributed to the Democratic Party’s 2024 election losses (along with a muddled immigration message & trans rights message from a fractured caucus with too many individual voices "speaking for the Democratic Party").

That ^ was exploited to death by DonOld & the MAGAt republicans.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Summary:

Lazyman supports the baby killers.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The term "antisemitism" was coined in the 19th Century as genteel alternative to "Jew-hate". The idea among race scholars at the time was that Jews could never assimilate with European culture because of their Middle Eastern features and customs. They would always be outsiders.

And this classical definition of antisemitism stayed remarkably constant throughout the 19th and 20th century. It was widely accepted. When someone was accused of "antisemitism", it was generally a rebuke said to someone mocking or denigrating the Jewish faith (or a Jewish person).

Along came the 21st century and hardline Jewish zealots pushed for a radical expansion of the concept of "antisemitism" to the point where a good many people no longer (myself included) no longer take accusations of "antisemitism" seriously. First and foremost, these zealots expanded the concept of "antisemitism" to include ANYTHING that reflects poorly upon the nation of Israel. Post a picture of Gazan children who had their arms or legs amputated due to Israeli air strikes? "That's Antisemitsm!".

No, it's not.

Secondly, the definition of "antisemitism" was expanded to include anything and everything that might upset delicate Jewish feelings. Wave the Palestinian flag in America as protest. Get the fainting couches out, STAT!.

That's not "antisemitism" either.

The Jews have basically neutered their most potent rebuke, watering it down so that it no longer means anything to the general public.

The man in the cartoon accusing Jews from being from Poland is dressed in the garb of someone from the Arabian peninsula. Unlike the Jews he's a foreigner to the Levant. The Arab colonizers have always tried to erase Jews and Jewish history. They even built a tacky mosque on top of the holiest site in Judaism.

This is a sad, twisted revisionist history of "modern" Israel.

Someone posted an Instagram picture the other day I'd intended on commenting on that deals with this....I couldn't find the actual post but I found the Instagram post itself so I'm going to repost it, along with the explanation that was missing from the original picture.

The original picture is here, but I took a snapshot for posterity given how often posts on Instagram critical of Israel suddenly disappear:
https://i.imgur.com/Ztl03XX.png

And the explanation follows:

Every Israeli prime minister to date has come from families rooted in Eastern Europe, mostly Poland, Ukraine, and Belarus. Not one was born in historic Palestine or descends from an indigenous lineage tied to the region. This matters because it challenges the dominant narrative that frames Zionist settlement as a return rather than a colonial movement. Genetic and historical studies, including one published in Genome Biology and Evolution (Elhaik, 2013), show that Ashkenazi Jews, who make up the bulk of Israel’s leadership and population, have predominantly European ancestry with minimal genetic continuity to the ancient Levant. In contrast, studies published in journals like Nature and PNAS confirm that modern Palestinians exhibit direct genetic continuity with ancient Canaanite and Levantine populations.

This is not about identity politics. It is about who is indigenous to the land and who is not. Palestinians are not just historically rooted in the region; they are biologically tied to it. Their connection is uninterrupted, lived, and generational. The claim to the land is not based on mythology or political theology. It is grounded in archaeology, genetics, and lived history.

In short, Ashenkazi Jews are little more than entitled educated squatters. THEY are the "colonizers", not the Arabs.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Israel is just a more successful Davidian Branch Compound.

Lol

 

[Winter_Fare]

I'm still willing to answer questions about Judaism if the antisemites are done with their Blood Libels.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gaza-injures-priest-pope-francis-called-daily

Why?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Israel is just a more successful Davidian Branch Compound.

Lol

Israel is a wonderful country for the Jews.

 

[Hel_Books]

Your deflection snark is a tad premature.

Egypt and Jordan have no role in this particular fight as of yet, your comment presupposes that Gazans have forfeited their homeland to the genocidal Israel regime.

How did the Egyptians have their pre-1967 territory stolen from them and given to Hamas? How did the Jordanians have their pre-1967 territory stolen from them and given to Fatah? Is it all right to steal territory if Moslem crybullies are doing the stealing?

 

[RobDownSouth]

How did the Egyptians have their pre-1967 territory stolen from them and given to Hamas? How did the Jordanians have their pre-1967 territory stolen from them and given to Fatah? Is it all right to steal territory if Moslem crybullies are doing the stealing?

Pfft....You had to do a deep dig....almost a half century ago, when most people in the Middle East weren't born yet....to come up with an example of your "but Mom! The other side does it tooooooooooooooo!"

I'm not interested in relitigating old grievances, both sides do it, and nobody really cares what happened "back in Grandpa's day".

Try and be a tad more contemporary if you want a serious discussion.

 

[Lance_Castro]

There’s a lot of misinformation floating around now about Judaism, so why not clear it up?

Why do jews use arab children instead of beer cans for plinking?

 

[Lazaran]

Why do jews use arab children instead of beer cans for plinking?

Why does Hamas use children as fighters (terrorists) instead of adults???

 

[JohnEngelman]

Jewish Student Assaulted at Harvard Sues School for Allegedly Protecting Antisemitic Perpetrators​

National Review, July 18, 2025 10:02 AM

A Jewish student filed a bombshell lawsuit against Harvard University Thursday accusing the school of protecting students who assaulted him, and enabling an antisemitic campus environment.

Yoav Segev, a Jewish student who recently received a master’s degree from Harvard Business School, sued Harvard and its police department for allegedly refusing to discipline a mob of anti-Israel students who assaulted him on campus shortly after Hamas’s mass atrocities on October 7, 2023.

“Harvard’s antisemitic discrimination against Mr. Segev is far more sinister than inaction and indifference. Harvard did everything it could to defend, protect, and reward the assailants; to impede the criminal investigation; and to prevent Mr. Segev from obtaining administrative relief from the University,” the lawsuit reads.

“Harvard’s antisemitic discrimination against Mr. Segev is not an isolated incident. It is part of a much larger pattern and practice of institutionalized antisemitism and mistreatment of Jewish students.”

National Review has reached out to Harvard for comment on Segev’s lawsuit.

The assault took place when Segev, who was wearing a bracelet symbolizing his Israeli identity, walked by a pro-Palestinian protest happening on October 18, 2023. The demonstration featured anti-Israel demonstrators and was organized by anti-Israel student activist organizations.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...wstrack&utm_term=40748920&utm_source=Sailthru

I hope BrightShinyGirl is safe.

 

[JohnEngelman]

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It does not matter where Jews were born. If they want to live in Israel they have the right to. The is plenty of room for the Palestinians in the Arab world.

 

[Lazaran]

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There are NO children in Gaza.

Hamas steals / corrupts / perverts the newborns’ childhoods and turns them into rapists, murderers, kidnappers, and terrorists.



Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Lance_Castro]

There are NO children in Gaza.

At the rate the IDF is killing them, you’re pretty close.

 

[Justplainjeff]

Your deflection snark is a tad premature.

Egypt and Jordan have no role in this particular fight as of yet, your comment presupposes that Gazans have forfeited their homeland to the genocidal Israel regime.

Enough RubOneOut, if Israel wanted to there would be a half million dead, not the 40,000 or so. Its time for pieces of shit like you to stop your anti-Semitic rants, as they only prove how fucking stupid you are.

 

[Hel_Books]

Pfft....You had to do a deep dig....almost a half century ago, when most people in the Middle East weren't born yet....to come up with an example of your "but Mom! The other side does it tooooooooooooooo!"

I'm not interested in relitigating old grievances, both sides do it, and nobody really cares what happened "back in Grandpa's day".

Try and be a tad more contemporary if you want a serious discussion.

On the contrary, if you follow the news, you'll see EVERYBODY in the middle east cares about what happened back then!

Negotiating over boundaries started a long time ago. If both sides are still talking (and shooting) about those negotiations, you can hardly criticize me for mentioning it, can you?

If you want to be more "contemporary," how far back are you allowed to go? 7 October? 13 November 2015 at the Bataclan Theatre in Paris? 26 November 2008 in Mumbai? 7 July 2005 in London? 11 September 2001 in New York City? 18 July 1994 in Buenos Aires? 5 September in Munich, 1972?

 

[RobDownSouth]

On the contrary, if you follow the news, you'll see EVERYBODY in the middle east cares about what happened back then!

Negotiating over boundaries started a long time ago. If both sides are still talking (and shooting) about those negotiations, you can hardly criticize me for mentioning it, can you?

If you want to be more "contemporary," how far back are you allowed to go? 7 October? 13 November 2015 at the Bataclan Theatre in Paris? 26 November 2008 in Mumbai? 7 July 2005 in London? 11 September 2001 in New York City? 18 July 1994 in Buenos Aires? 5 September in Munich, 1972?

Your "perptual victimhood" street cred is duly noted.

Now, let's try and go back to Israel's pogrom, which is still in progress.

Does your faith require annihilation of your perceived enemies?
or does your faith permit annihilation of your perceived enemies?
or does your faith somehow absolve adherents of attempting to annihilate your perceived enemies?

If none of the above are true, shouldn't IDF Jews in Gaza be considered chillul hashem?

I've seen polls that roughly two out of three diaspora Jews are horrified by Israeli's genocidal intent....I presume you're one of those in the minority who salivates at the thought of mutilated Gazan children?

I thought of you, Genocide Jeff and Anomaly Lady the other day when a medical report said there are now more children with amputated limbs in Gaza than in anywhere else in the world.

How proud you must be of your putative "homeland".

 

[RobDownSouth]

Enough RubOneOut, if Israel wanted to there would be a half million dead, not the 40,000 or so. Its time for pieces of shit like you to stop your anti-Semitic rants, as they only prove how fucking stupid you are.

Wishful thinking on your part, old man. Israel excels at killing children, the elderly and the infirm.

Against armed soldiers who, you know, shoot back? Not so well. Average at best.

I saw something today that reminded me of you, particularly your habit of labelling any and all criticism of Israel as "anti-Semitism":

Jewish actor Mandy Patinkin had some pretty harsh criticism of Israel, and went as far as relating Israel's obsession with perpetual vengeance with that of Inigo Montoya, the role he played in The Princess Bride.

So tell us, oh Learned Elder of Zion. is Patinkin 'anti-Semitic' or is he merely one of those 'self-loathing Jews' ?

 

[Justplainjeff]

On the contrary, if you follow the news, you'll see EVERYBODY in the middle east cares about what happened back then!

Negotiating over boundaries started a long time ago. If both sides are still talking (and shooting) about those negotiations, you can hardly criticize me for mentioning it, can you?

If you want to be more "contemporary," how far back are you allowed to go? 7 October? 13 November 2015 at the Bataclan Theatre in Paris? 26 November 2008 in Mumbai? 7 July 2005 in London? 11 September 2001 in New York City? 18 July 1994 in Buenos Aires? 5 September in Munich, 1972?

OK, RubOneOut, lets look at history of Israelis against soldiers who shoot back! 1948, a ragtag army against the entire Muslim world. Israel won. 1956, same thing, but Israel a bit better equipped. Israel won. 1967, the famous 6 day war. Who won? Israel. When was the last time the terrorists won? That would be never! One thing you don't have any concept of is the Israelis right of desent. If three Israelis are discussing an issue, there are four opinions.

 

[Hel_Books]

Your "perptual victimhood" street cred is duly noted.

Now, let's try and go back to Israel's pogrom, which is still in progress.

Does your faith require annihilation of your perceived enemies?
or does your faith permit annihilation of your perceived enemies?
or does your faith somehow absolve adherents of attempting to annihilate your perceived enemies?

If none of the above are true, shouldn't IDF Jews in Gaza be considered chillul hashem?

I've seen polls that roughly two out of three diaspora Jews are horrified by Israeli's genocidal intent....I presume you're one of those in the minority who salivates at the thought of mutilated Gazan children?

I thought of you, Genocide Jeff and Anomaly Lady the other day when a medical report said there are now more children with amputated limbs in Gaza than in anywhere else in the world.

How proud you must be of your putative "homeland".

As far as faith goes, I'll just say I agree with Christopher Hitchens: "Religion poisons everything."

As for people dying, I'll just say I agree with Nelson Mandela: "Such accidents were the inevitable consequence of the decision to embark on a military struggle."

As far as homelands go, I'll just say I'll have nothing in particular to do with the Middle East. I just hope they choose to settle their differences peacefully, as they had the opportunity to do starting in 1948 and many times subsequent.

 

[RobDownSouth]

As far as faith goes, I'll just say I agree with Christopher Hitchens: "Religion poisons everything."

As for people dying, I'll just say I agree with Nelson Mandela: "Such accidents were the inevitable consequence of the decision to embark on a military struggle."

As far as homelands go, I'll just say I'll have nothing in particular to do with the Middle East. I just hope they choose to settle their differences peacefully, as they had the opportunity to do starting in 1948 and many times subsequent.

Fair enough.