How the Epstein mess ends

[BabyBoomer50s]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63305382

Yes, the dossier has been discredited but many people still think it’s true! Lotta people still think Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation. Conspiracy theorists tend to really believe in their theories.

 

[stxjimmy]

Conspiracy theorists tend to really believe in their theories.

You and hdh are right up there.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Yes, the dossier has been discredited but many people still think it’s true! Lotta people still think Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation. Conspiracy theorists tend to really believe in their theories.

This particular conspiracy theory was promoted by Trump and MAGA sheep for years, but now the sheep are backpedaling because Donnie told them to.

Such obedient sheep.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

You and hdh are right up there.

what are you talking about?

 

[Chernosoth]

Billy Barr had Epstein whacked.

He protected the status quo more than he did his job, but ordering a high profile assassination seems above his courage level.

 

[Lazaran]

Yes, the dossier has been discredited

BabyBoobs KNOWS the Steele dossier has NOT been discredited.

but many people still think it’s true!

BabyBoobs KNOWS DonOld repeatedly acquiescing to Putin’s wishes & DonOld repeatedly undermining the Ukraine war effort (along with the MAAAAAAANY connections between DonOld & Russia) is THE REASON “many people” KNOW there is likely a good amount of truth to the allegations in the Steele dossier.
The Steele dossier is more believable today than ever before.

Lotta people still think Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation.

BabyBoobs KNOWS "HUNTERS LAPTOP!!!" was a laptop.

BabyBoobs also KNOWS the Russian disinformation about what was ON the laptop was Russian disinformation:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140240

From the article:

The Justice Department’s assertions this week that a longtime FBI informant was seeking to “spread misinformation” designed to hurt President Joe Biden after speaking to Russian intelligence operatives has put a new spotlight on an old debate:

To what extent, if any, has the Russian government manufactured or amplified unproven allegations of corrupt Ukraine dealings by Joe and Hunter Biden?

In a request to revoke his bail, prosecutors said that former informant Alexander Smirnov, charged last week with lying to the FBI in 2020 when he said Joe Biden had received a $5 million bribe, “is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections after meeting with Russian intelligence officials” as recently as last fall.

The allegation that Smirnov was spreading new falsehoods about Joe Biden with an election looming hearkened back to an episode from the 2020 election, when the question of whether Russian spies were trying to smear Joe Biden was first raised.

Derogatory information, purportedly from Hunter Biden’s laptop, had surfaced in a New York Post article. Soon afterward, 51 former intelligence officials signed and blasted to the media a letter warning that the laptop story “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

Conspiracy theorists tend to really believe in their theories.

GASLIGHTING/ LIARS (BabyBoobs) tend to really GASLIGHT & LIE



BabyBoobs



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ByteMe13]

He protected the status quo more than he did his job, but ordering a high profile assassination seems above his courage level.

He wanted to be Trump’s consigliere. He would have done anything

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

BabyBoobs KNOWS the Steele dossier has NOT been discredited.







BabyBoobs KNOWS DonOld repeatedly acquiescing to Putin’s wishes & DonOld repeatedly undermining the Ukraine war effort (along with the MAAAAAAANY connections between DonOld & Russia) is THE REASON “many people” KNOW there is likely a good amount of truth to the allegations in the Steele dossier.
The Steele dossier is more believable today than ever before.







BabyBoobs KNOWS "HUNTERS LAPTOP!!!" was a laptop.

BabyBoobs also KNOWS the Russian disinformation about what was ON the laptop was Russian disinformation:

lol. Share your conspiracy theory with stxjimmy. He’s the one that shared the BBC story which correctly stated that the Steele dossier has been discredited. And oh by the way, the moon landing really did happen, Hunter’s laptop was real, Biden really did win the 2020 election, Biden really is suffering from mental decline, and the assassination attempt on Trump wasn’t staged. You and BSG spend too much time on conspiracy websites.

 

[Lazaran]

lol. Share your conspiracy theory with stxjimmy. He’s the one that shared the BBC story which correctly stated that the Steele dossier has been discredited. And oh by the way, the moon landing really did happen, Hunter’s laptop was real, Biden really did win the 2020 election, Biden really is suffering from mental decline, and the assassination attempt on Trump wasn’t staged. You and BSG spend too much time on conspiracy websites.

BabyBoobs "thinks" the indictment of a Russian agent (Alexander SMIRNOV) for pushing disinformation (LYING TO THE FBI) about what was ACTUALLY on "HUNTERS LAPTOP!!!" is a “conspiracy theory”:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna140240





BabyBoobs



Side note:

Alexander SMIRNOV (the indicted RUSSIAN AGENT who LIED to the FBI about what was ACTUALLY on "HUNTERS LAPTOP!!!) was also billed as the House republicans’ "star witness" who would give damming testimony (LIE) that there was a connection between President Biden and Hunter Biden’s business dealings…until he was INDICTED….

Oops…





BabyBoobs



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[MasterAnimus]

Bondi comes out and says there WAS a list but that she had it destroyed, for the good of the country or some other nonsense. She resigns or Trump pretends to fire her. The MAGAites go back to speculating who is on the list. Everyone is happy


Also, Trump contacts Giselle Maxwell and makes her an offer she can’t refuse: 3 years in a minimum security prison, then a pardon. Just has to keep her mouth shut

There's always a simpler explanation:

 

[jomar]

Around 2008 I saw rumors and allegations on craigslist about Epstein and Clinton, which I dismissed because they seemed very poor attempts at diversion from Bush's incompetence. Eighteen years later, Epstein is dead. If the Clintons have actually arranged a homicide, that is the most conspicuous possibility.

The power and wealth class is losing power and wealth. That's how this ends.

Author James Patterson did very deep dive into the Clinton/Epstein connection and concluded “nah.”

Today’s WSJ OpEd.

The Inside Scoop on Jeffrey Epstein
I was his lawyer. I know things that court orders won’t allow me to disclose.
By Alan Dershowitz

I was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. I know the facts, some of which I can’t disclose because it is privileged or subject to court-imposed sealing orders. But what I can disclose makes several important things clear:

Epstein never created a “client list.” The FBI interviewed alleged victims who named several “clients.” These names have been redacted. They should be disclosed but the courts have ordered them sealed. I know who they are. They don’t include any current officeholders. We don’t know whether the accusations are true. The courts have also sealed negative information about some of the accusers to protect them. Neither the Justice Department nor private defense lawyers are free to disregard court sealing orders. The media can and should petition the courts for the release of all names and information so the public can draw its own conclusions.

There has also been speculation about incriminating videos taken by hidden cameras in Epstein’s guest bedrooms. There are videotapes, but they are of public areas of his Palm Beach, Fla., home. Epstein reported the theft of money and a licensed firearm from a drawer in his living room, so the police installed a video camera. I am not aware of video cameras in guest bedrooms.

Open records show an acquaintance between Epstein and Mr. Trump many years ago. That relationship ended when Mr. Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, long before becoming president. I have seen nothing that would suggest anything improper or even questionable by Mr. Trump.

It is clear from the evidence that Epstein committed suicide. What isn’t clear is whether he was assisted by jail personnel. That seems likely to me, based on the evidence of allegedly broken cameras, transfer of his cellmate and the absence of guards during relevant time periods.

I have absolutely no doubt that Epstein never worked for any intelligence agency. If he had, he would surely have told me and his other lawyers, who would have used that information to get him a better deal. (He wasn’t satisfied with the so-called sweetheart deal he got, which required him to spend 1½ years in a local jail and register as a sex offender.) My sources in Israel have confirmed to me that he had no connection to Israeli intelligence. That false story—recently peddled by Tucker Carlson—probably emanated from credible allegations that Robert Maxwell (1923-91), father of Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, worked with the Mossad.

Conspiracy stories attract readers, viewers and listeners. They are also fodder for political attacks. The Epstein case has generated more than its share of such theories, and there is nothing more annoying to gossip mongers than when stubborn facts (or the absence of facts) get in the way of a juicy theory. Sorry to disappoint you, but there is really nothing much to see here, beyond what has already been disclosed.

Dershowitz has as much credibility as Giuliani for awhile now.

 

[stxjimmy]

Author James Patterson did very deep dive into the Clinton/Epstein connection and concluded “nah.”


Dershowitz has as much credibility as Giuliani for awhile now.

Clinton and Patterson also wrote together.

 

[jomar]

Clinton and Patterson also wrote together.

True. Their first collaboration was published in 2018.

 

[ll74]

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

CNN reports on how the Epstein story is impacting Trump’s support among his base. Devastating. Lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945856695395049620

 

[MajorRewrite]

CNN reports on how the Epstein story is impacting Trump’s support among his base. Devastating. Lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945856695395049620

MAGA sheep are proving they are loyal sheep. Nobody is surprised.

As Donnie said, he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone and he wouldn’t lose any voters.

Anyway, Donnie is very upset by the ongoing Trumpstein Files discussion, which is highly amusing for all of us who aren’t sheep.

 

[Bray123]

This may end with someone making an extra-large ankle monitor.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

MAGA sheep are proving they are loyal sheep. Nobody is surprised.

Yeah, those MAGA sheep at CNN are so predictable.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yeah, those MAGA sheep at CNN are so predictable.

So Trump breaking a campaign promise and covering up some of the worst crimes imaginable isn’t a dealbreaker for MAGA. That’s pretty scary.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Yeah, those MAGA sheep at CNN are so predictable.

You’re twisting yourself in knots, sheep. CNN reported the story. It’s the mindless sheep like you who are staying loyal to Trump regardless of him blocking the release of the Trumpstein Files.

 

[ll74]

Reminder:

Trump doubles down on well-wishes for alleged sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell

 

[stxjimmy]

You’re twisting yourself in knots, sheep. CNN reported the story. It’s the mindless sheep like you who are staying loyal to Trump regardless of him blocking the release of the Trumpstein Files.

To be fair it would be pretty damn hard to be a maga follower without the ability/necessity to ignore the contradictions and follow blindly.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

So Trump breaking a campaign promise and covering up some of the worst crimes imaginable isn’t a dealbreaker for MAGA. That’s pretty scary.

According to the CNN poll and the Quinnipeac poll presented by CNN the other day, it hasn’t hurt the president at all among Republicans.

Perhaps part of the reason is that Trump didn’t talk much about it during his campaign. He was asked if he would release the Epstein case records during an interview with Fox News. He answered something like “I think so”, then mentioned some potential downsides of doing so. Other than that, I don’t recall hearing anything about it from Trump during the campaign.

Most of the fervor over this seems to have been ginned up by Kash Patel, Bondi, and some social media influencers.

 

[ll74]

Virginia Giuffre met Jeffrey Epstein at Mar La.Go

 

[Bray123]

According to the CNN poll and the Quinnipeac poll presented by CNN the other day, it hasn’t hurt the president at all among Republicans.

Perhaps part of the reason is that Trump didn’t talk much about it during his campaign. He was asked if he would release the Epstein case records during an interview with Fox News. He answered something like “I think so”, then mentioned some potential downsides of doing so. Other than that, I don’t recall hearing anything about it from Trump during the campaign.

Most of the fervor over this seems to have been ginned up by Kash Patel, Bondi, and some social media influencers.

He spoke a shitload about other stuff such as global peace and the economy.


Turns out he had less expertise in 'global peace' than any of his teenage beauty contestants that he was inspecting in the changing rooms.