Judaism AMA

[Winter_Fare]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-gaza-food-c08079f831c44442a19ffd21fcea8de4

 

[Winter_Fare]

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[RobDownSouth]

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Israel was rationalizing their venomous hatred of all people not like them way back in the day.

Classic DARVO.

"Israel is teh REAL victim here".

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[Winter_Fare]

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[Hel_Books]

"deport them". Call it what it is: a pogrom.

The Nazis had a more poetic word for this: Lebensraum

Since you brought up the Nazis, let's remember that after the second World War the Nazis were eradicated (save for a few nuts in basements masturbating while fondling a swastika) and the Germans lost a considerable amount of territory. For example, East Prussia is now part of Poland and the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad.

It looks like this is what will happen with the Moslems in the Middle East. Hamas will be eradicated (the one surviving member of its military council, Ezz al-Din al-Haddad has declared himself the "leader" and is in hiding, surrounding himself with the remaining hostages, using them as human shields) and the Moslems will lose territory.

Don't forget, the Israelis, as a concession to the peace process, removed all the Jews from the Gaza Strip (which was Egyptian territory in 1948). Jews had lived there for centuries before the Moslem killers erupted from the Arabian desert, but they were willing to give up their homes in the hopes of peace. It didn't work. The Moslems wanted it ALL! So now they will lose even more.

 

[Winter_Fare]

Since you brought up the Nazis, let's remember that after the second World War the Nazis were eradicated (save for a few nuts in basements masturbating while fondling a swastika) and the Germans lost a considerable amount of territory. For example, East Prussia is now part of Poland and the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad.

It looks like this is what will happen with the Moslems in the Middle East. Hamas will be eradicated (the one surviving member of its military council, Ezz al-Din al-Haddad has declared himself the "leader" and is in hiding, surrounding himself with the remaining hostages, using them as human shields) and the Moslems will lose territory.

Don't forget, the Israelis, as a concession to the peace process, removed all the Jews from the Gaza Strip (which was Egyptian territory in 1948). Jews had lived there for centuries before the Moslem killers erupted from the Arabian desert, but they were willing to give up their homes in the hopes of peace. It didn't work. The Moslems wanted it ALL! So now they will lose even more.

All Nazis eradicated except the nuts that came to help USA build nukes. And the pharmacists/scientists that bought refuge with their study data. And the ones that fled and retired to South America. And the ones that just stayed right where they were, kept their heads down, and taught that shit to their children.

 

[Hel_Books]

Israel was rationalizing their venomous hatred of all people not like them way back in the day.

Doubtless there are some Israelis who hate people "not like them." That mentality is found everywhere, from people in the USA who wave Confederate flags to the bile the North Koreans scream about their neighbours across the DMZ.

But so what? Does that justify Hamas firing rockets at Israel? Does that justify the atrocities of October 7? Of course not! Imagine how you'd feel if people living in the town next to yours started firing rockets at your town and when you complained they explained, "Hey, you have bigots living in your town!"

 

[RobDownSouth]

All Nazis eradicated except the nuts that came to help USA build nukes. And the pharmacists/scientists that bought refuge with their study data. And the ones that fled and retired to South America. And the ones that just stayed right where they were, kept their heads down, and taught that shit to their children.

Nazi party members simply declared they had nooooooooothing to do with the Nazi party in WW2 once they lost.

This will likely be the MAGA plan when Dear Leader shuffles off the mortal coil.

Haeeretz (Israeli newspaper) had a poll "who should Israel kill next?" Iran was a distant third.
Most Israelis wanted Arab Israeli citizens exterminated next.

Fun fact: they published cross-tabs of the poll. Orthodox Jews and observant Jews who regularly attend synagogue were the ones most likely to support pogroms/extermination/genocide/ethnic cleansing.

The "genetically smartest people in the world" seemingly have no moral compass anymore. Therefore....

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[Hel_Books]

All Nazis eradicated except the nuts that came to help USA build nukes. And the pharmacists/scientists that bought refuge with their study data. And the ones that fled and retired to South America. And the ones that just stayed right where they were, kept their heads down, and taught that shit to their children.

Indeed! Though I'd guess quite a few of the people who fled Germany (Einstein, for example) were not so much Nazis as refugees from the Nazis.

In any case, it does show how hard it will be to eradicate the last traces of Hamas . . .

 

[RobDownSouth]

Doubtless there are some Israelis who hate people "not like them." That mentality is found everywhere, from people in the USA who wave Confederate flags to the bile the North Koreans scream about their neighbours across the DMZ.

But so what? Does that justify Hamas firing rockets at Israel? Does that justify the atrocities of October 7? Of course not! Imagine how you'd feel if people living in the town next to yours started firing rockets at your town and when you complained they explained, "Hey, you have bigots living in your town!"

Some Israelis? The Israeli newspaper Haeeretx poll on who do we exterminate next seemingly indicates that amoral Israel supports ethnic cleansing by a margin of 3:2. That's a majority in reality-based math.

These "rockets" are a nuisance...they're soupcans welded together, stuffed with fertilizer propellant (like Timmy McVeigh) and have a "warhead" of four ounces of C4 plastique explosive. They can kill one or two people. Most Israelis regard them as a nuisance. The Iranian missiles fired from Gaza are another thing altogether, but they are relatively rare.

Israel gambled on October 7th that Hamas was weakened enough after 11 years of naval blockade (an Israeli war crime btw) and the prohibition of food imports by land (another war crime by Israel btw) as part of the collective punishment visited upon the Gazan people (yet another war crime by the way).

Israel was essentially Derek Chauvin keeping their government knee on Gaza George Floyd neck for 11 years.

Netanyahu miscalculated in a major way. He gambled and pulled two battalions of IDF troops from the Gazan land border to help Smolev's West Bank thugs seize property in the West Bank. Smolev forced Netanyahu's hand to do this because otherwise he'd withhold the West Bank vote from Netanyahu's shaky coalition.

Gazans saw a one-time opportunity and gave Israel a black eye. Was it the right thing to do? No. If someone was starving your children and grandparents for 11 years would you jump at the opportunity to give them a little payback?

I know I would, and I would not give a fucking damn if my oppressors were Israeli, Hindu, Russian or Chinese.

Israel brought October 7th on themselves, and have no one but themselves to blame for it.

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[Winter_Fare]

Indeed! Though I'd guess quite a few of the people who fled Germany (Einstein, for example) were not so much Nazis as refugees from the Nazis.

In any case, it does show how hard it will be to eradicate the last traces of Hamas . . .

Correction. It shows that even after everything Nazi Germany did, even with all those awful people weaseled away among everyone else, it was still possible to move on and rebuild without wiping everyone out in revenge killing. Israel take note.

 

[Hel_Books]

Israel brought October 7th on themselves, and have no one but themselves to blame for it.

Ah, yes, lets blame the Jews again!

From the book Ordinary Men, about the activities of a police unit in Poland during WWII

". . . Pale and nervous, with choking voice and tears in his eyes, Trapp [commander of the police unit] visibly fought to control himself as he spoke. The battalion, he said plaintively, had to perform a frightfully unpleasant task. This assignment was not to his liking, indeed it was highly regrettable, but the order came from the highest authorities. It might perhaps make their task easier, he told the men, if they remembered that in Germany bombs were falling on the women and children.
He then turned to the matter at hand. The Jews had instigated the boycott against Germany, one policeman remembered Trapp saying. There were Jews in the village of Józefów who were involved with the partisans. . . . "

 

[Hel_Books]

Correction. It shows that even after everything Nazi Germany did, even with all those awful people weaseled away among everyone else, it was still possible to move on and rebuild without wiping everyone out in revenge killing. Israel take note.

Oh, most definitely! Get rid of Hamas (except for a few that manage to weasel themselves away) but in the end, once Hamas has been killed, expelled or disarmed, then it will be time for peace. I believe that is the Israeli position, no?

 

[Winter_Fare]

Oh, most definitely! Get rid of Hamas (except for a few that manage to weasel themselves away) but in the end, once Hamas has been killed, expelled or disarmed, then it will be time for peace. I believe that is the Israeli position, no?

Is that their position? Where have they outlined that goal?

 

[Hel_Books]

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I suspect you wouldn't be saying this if it was Israel selling you oil while Saudi Arabia sold you hummus!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Correction. It shows that even after everything Nazi Germany did, even with all those awful people weaseled away among everyone else, it was still possible to move on and rebuild without wiping everyone out in revenge killing. Israel take note.

The Gazans could end this war tomorrow by surrendering and releasing the hostages.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The Gazans could end this war tomorrow by surrendering and releasing the hostages.

Bumper sticker solution not grounded in reality.
This was NEVER about "the hostages", this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Israel to conduct a land grab, feeding diaspora Jews around the world that "getting the hostages back" was a "priority".

BTW, the Jews in Israel could end this war tomorrow by renouncing their faith and accepting Jesus Christ as their savior.
See how easy it is to come up with facile, completely unrealistic solutions?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Bumper sticker solution not grounded in reality.
This was NEVER about "the hostages", this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Israel to conduct a land grab, feeding diaspora Jews around the world that "getting the hostages back" was a "priority".

BTW, the Jews in Israel could end this war tomorrow by renouncing their faith and accepting Jesus Christ as their savior.
See how easy it is to come up with facile, completely unrealistic solutions?

That wouldn’t end the war. The Muslims have demonstrated that they can’t live in peace with either Jews or the Christians. The fighting will only stop in the Middle East when the Muslims give up their genocidal dream of a theocracy.

 

[Winter_Fare]

The Gazans could end this war tomorrow by surrendering and releasing the hostages.

No, that might be your position but there's no evidence that it's true.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No, that might be your position but there's no evidence that it's true.

Israel keeps proposing that as the conditions for a cease fire, and the Gazans keep rejecting it.

 

[Winter_Fare]

Israel keeps proposing that as the conditions for a cease fire, and the Gazans keep rejecting it.

What do you make of this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/13/israel-humanitarian-city-rafah-gaza-camp-ehud-olmert

 

[Lazaran]

Um, did you watch that ^ video with the sound off???



The fire caused by the Israeli strike on the "hospital" (Hamas base of operations) set off some "interesting sound effects": rounds of ammunition and other explosive objects / substances (RPGs???, IEDs??? Rocket / missile components???) popping off.



That video PROVED that Hamas is using "hospitals" as bases of military (terrorist) operations.



You lose.



Thanks for playing.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Winter_Fare]

Um, did you watch that ^ video with the sound off???



The fire caused by the Israeli strike on the "hospital" (Hamas base of operations) set off some "interesting sound effects": rounds of ammunition and other explosive objects / substances (RPGs???, IEDs??? Rocket / missile components???) popping off.



That video PROVED that Hamas is using "hospitals" as bases of military (terrorist) operations.



You lose.



Thanks for playing.



We. Told. Them. So.

Those were oxygen and fuel tanks going off you melt. If it was munitions going up there's no way they would have put it out with buckets of water and hand held fire extinguishers.

 

[Lazaran]

Those were oxygen and fuel tanks going off you melt. If it was munitions going up there's no way they would have put it out with buckets of water and hand held fire extinguishers.

Those WERE rounds of ammunition and other UNIDENTIFIED explosive materials popping off.

You lose.



Thanks for playing.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[JohnEngelman]

The Occupied Territories are “occupied” by Israel illegally and have been for decades.

Multiple UN Resolutions support Palestine’s right to used armed force against the Occupiers.

Israel is and has always been the agressor, with the complicit sponsorship of the USA.

Lie about it all you like.

Them’s the facts, you genocidal fucks.

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Watch your language. BrightShinyGirl is reading your comments.

Where was international law in 1967 when Egypt and Syria threatened to destroy Israel? When Nassar demanded that the UN Peace Keeping Force leave=, the UN Peace Keeping force fled in terror. What good is a UN Peace Keeping Force that does not keep the peace? Israel has no obligation to obey a UN that did nothing when the Jews in Israel faced annihilation.