Tradwife life idea

[SubLynnM]

I don't necessarily disagree with that. My question is if that's so written in stone, then why was it so different for, well, thousands of years?

 

[NuclearFairy]

I don't necessarily disagree with that. My question is if that's so written in stone, then why was it so different for, well, thousands of years?

Because for thousands of years most of the world was a highly patriarchal society, and so a woman's role was very narrow, and very firmly set.

Even during those thousands of years, there were men and women who were unhappy about it, and there were more matriarchal societies that the societies around them either ignored or set out to conquer for the perceived threat they were placing on their society.

Hench why we eventually got the suffrage movement which would not have been able to take off quite so well if we didn't have the technology to allow women across oceans to communicate and gain strength from each other.

 

[Carriedaway22]

I think it’s something no one is allowed to say- it depends. I have met beautiful women that could run circles around me mentally, figuratively, literally. I’ve also met some absolutely useless beautiful women. There are men and dynamics for both and all between. If you are a girl who feels like you may need a man’s leadership, you might. If you are a man who may need a girl’s leadership… you might. Both are out there. We can imagine a world populated by only this or only that. But that’s not the truth.

 

[Carriedaway22]

May we get back to visualizing the original story instead of debating morality?

 

[NuclearFairy]

Ok this needs to be an entire fictional universe asap. I happen to think the house husband thing is also hot (I have way too many kinks). This could combine them all xD

Also, it could give you a sequel of sorts to your trad wife story, where you tell a story from the neighbor's point of view.

 

[Rob_Royale]

May we get back to visualizing the original story instead of debating morality?

Sure. How's the story coming and what directions did you go so far?

 

[Carriedaway22]

The couple I am thinking of looks something like this

 

[Carriedaway22]

I would read that story

Go on if you would, please.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

It's her life, her choice, her role, her style.

He doesn't know it. He thinks he's running the show and controlling her.


In reality, she's calling the shots. She's using the role to her advantage to have the home and life she wants.

 

[Lord_Maximilian]

It's her life, her choice, her role, her style.

He doesn't know it. He thinks he's running the show and controlling her.


In reality, she's calling the shots. She's using the role to her advantage to have the home and life she wants.

Manipulation, then?

 

[big_cane_sugar]

I'm not up-to-date on the concept of "tradwife" but if the idea is that she just loves him so much that she wants to be his ideal woman then my first idea about how to make it an equal relationship is if he also loves her so much that he wants to be her ideal man.

If you're interested in intertextuality you could maybe find a way to make it like O. Henry's "The Gift of the Magi."

If you're interested in exploring/questioning gender and sex roles it might turn out that in public they want each other to be "trad" or whatever but it's the other way around in the bedroom. That seems rather plausible actually. Even a cuckolding situation. To the extent that such a story needs a plot, it could be the "big reveal" when they go into the bedroom. Or it could be a parallel plot situation, with sections of the story about "Mary and Jim" being the perfect trad family interspersed with sections about "his mistress and her slave." You could try to create literary parallelism between the forms of service that they enjoy (i.e. Jim tells Mary to make him a sandwich, his mistress tells her slave to eat her pussy).

Could be even more interesting to go the other way around, with her wearing the pants in public and him taking charge in the bedroom.

 

[SubLynnM]

Tradwives are assigned the traditional housewife role, and the man is the provider. We perform all housework and domestic functions, and our marriage is based on the male as head of the household, the leader. The boss of you will.
It is.not, by definition, an equality relationship. We must obey or he takes the hairbrush and/or belt to us.
It harkens to a simpler time when men and women had very clearly defined roles in a marriage, and in society

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

We must obey or he takes the hairbrush and/or belt to us.

At which point 'he' goes to jail.

 

[SubLynnM]

Not back in the day

 

[big_cane_sugar]

Seems to me (from what I see in the world around me) that it's pretty common for a woman to want to be with a powerful man and to enjoy some consensual fun in the bedroom and even outside of it based on her submission and his domination. And it seems like some women fantasize about being "taken care of" by a man, especially one who can provide an extremely luxurious lifestyle.

But I can't easily imagine any emotionally healthy person, regardless of sex, really wanting to be consistently disrespected, let alone live in fear of physical abuse.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding or taking figures of speech too literally.

 

[TinaCole]

never knew my inner female muse had a type, trad wife, had to look it up, but I think you guys are taking liberties with defininition....in an interesting,,literotica, sort of way.

 

[big_cane_sugar]

Could be even more interesting to go the other way around, with her wearing the pants in public and him taking charge in the bedroom.

Actually I kind of like this idea. I might try to write something like this myself....

 

[TinaCole]

Now you got me thinking about writing a story about a trans woman who becomes a trad wife and mom when she marries a widower, a single dad, who family unwittingly accepts her as mother, daughter in law, sister in law, aunt and eventually grandmother. Written as a romantic feel good story, without the hard core sex.

 

[SubLynnM]

Seems to me (from what I see in the world around me) that it's pretty common for a woman to want to be with a powerful man and to enjoy some consensual fun in the bedroom and even outside of it based on her submission and his domination. And it seems like some women fantasize about being "taken care of" by a man, especially one who can provide an extremely luxurious lifestyle.

But I can't easily imagine any emotionally healthy person, regardless of sex, really wanting to be consistently disrespected, let alone live in fear of physical abuse.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding or taking figures of speech too literally.

It's not like that

 

[Rob_Royale]

I have a story in the works asking these lines. A MFM poly dynamic where the wife is a tradwife for two husbands, who need very different things from their wife.

 

[big_cane_sugar]

Because for thousands of years most of the world was a highly patriarchal society, and so a woman's role was very narrow, and very firmly set.

Even during those thousands of years, there were men and women who were unhappy about it, and there were more matriarchal societies that the societies around them either ignored or set out to conquer for the perceived threat they were placing on their society.

Hench why we eventually got the suffrage movement which would not have been able to take off quite so well if we didn't have the technology to allow women across oceans to communicate and gain strength from each other.

Having spent some time living on an old-fashioned, poor family farm as a kid, I suspect most of us don't think enough about how different a world is when a man and a woman have to work so damned hard to get by and there are kids to be taken care of and no one has birth control. My wife and I currently have a fairly typical middle-class modern lifestyle but if some magician zapped us back into a world where one of us had to deal with water buffalos to get them to plow a field full of biting insects and the other one of us had to mend clothing fast enough to keep the kids decently clothed before winter struck we would probably decide the one with more muscle and no breast milk should deal with the water buffalos and the insects and the other one should do the sewing.

And if we had to choose between having eight kids or never having sex, I'm pretty sure we'd wind up with eight kids. The pregnant or nursing one would still be working damned hard, killing chickens and boiling water on wood fires and gardening and all kinds of stuff. But the one who wasn't pregnant would be the one doing most of the chopping down trees or dealing with anything dangerous.

Again, I saw a world like that with my own eyes as a kid and it wasn't one where men abused or disrespected women or their work. Everyone appreciated each other's labor. Before we moved into a more suburban, middle-class lifestyle, I even once helped some ranchers brand cattle the old-fashioned way - not like today, with all this fancy machinery, but the old way, with a wood fire and iron brands and men laying in the dust to holding the calves still. The women and children who had the strength for it would pitch in as much as they could too. A man who does work like that for ten hours and then washes that dust and sweat out of his face and sits down to a good meal does not look down on the women who cooked it. There's a mutual respect for each other's work and abilities.

We live in a very different world not because women have gained so much power, but women have gained so much power because we live in a very different world. My mom had to wash clothes on a washboard; doing one week of laundry for the family was a full day of work for her mom and her and all her sisters. They had to weed gardens and can vegetables and pick and preserve fruit, not go to a grocery store. My grandparents had to carry water from a well to their house. I mean when you think about how much life has changed, how much less time housework takes and how many fewer children couples have and how much safer the world is and how much less muscle work we need, it's no wonder that gender roles are changing.

I'm basically saying I don't think the men of a hundred or a thousand or four thousand years ago were actually abusive beasts who kept their women in line with belts and switches. Some were of course, just as some now are. But the conditions of life were so much different that mutual respect and appreciation for each other's abilities and labor just took different forms than they do today.

 

[NuclearFairy]

The OP has asked that we keep this discussion to actual story ideas about trad wives.

 

[SubLynnM]

Having spent some time living on an old-fashioned, poor family farm as a kid, I suspect most of us don't think enough about how different a world is when a man and a woman have to work so damned hard to get by and there are kids to be taken care of and no one has birth control. My wife and I currently have a fairly typical middle-class modern lifestyle but if some magician zapped us back into a world where one of us had to deal with water buffalos to get them to plow a field full of biting insects and the other one of us had to mend clothing fast enough to keep the kids decently clothed before winter struck we would probably decide the one with more muscle and no breast milk should deal with the water buffalos and the insects and the other one should do the sewing.

And if we had to choose between having eight kids or never having sex, I'm pretty sure we'd wind up with eight kids. The pregnant or nursing one would still be working damned hard, killing chickens and boiling water on wood fires and gardening and all kinds of stuff. But the one who wasn't pregnant would be the one doing most of the chopping down trees or dealing with anything dangerous.

Again, I saw a world like that with my own eyes as a kid and it wasn't one where men abused or disrespected women or their work. Everyone appreciated each other's labor. Before we moved into a more suburban, middle-class lifestyle, I even once helped some ranchers brand cattle the old-fashioned way - not like today, with all this fancy machinery, but the old way, with a wood fire and iron brands and men laying in the dust to holding the calves still. The women and children who had the strength for it would pitch in as much as they could too. A man who does work like that for ten hours and then washes that dust and sweat out of his face and sits down to a good meal does not look down on the women who cooked it. There's a mutual respect for each other's work and abilities.

We live in a very different world not because women have gained so much power, but women have gained so much power because we live in a very different world. My mom had to wash clothes on a washboard; doing one week of laundry for the family was a full day of work for her mom and her and all her sisters. They had to weed gardens and can vegetables and pick and preserve fruit, not go to a grocery store. My grandparents had to carry water from a well to their house. I mean when you think about how much life has changed, how much less time housework takes and how many fewer children couples have and how much safer the world is and how much less muscle work we need, it's no wonder that gender roles are changing.

I'm basically saying I don't think the men of a hundred or a thousand or four thousand years ago were actually abusive beasts who kept their women in line with belts and switches. Some were of course, just as some now are. But the conditions of life were so much different that mutual respect and appreciation for each other's abilities and labor just took different forms than they do today.

Exactly!!

 

[Nynah]

I’ve been working on my first story, and actually wrote 3000 words yesterday (very happy about that), but while I was writing I went off on another possible tangent of an idea- every once in a while I end up finding these tradwife/“biblical submission” girls on YouTube. Alanal3, homewithkelli, and maybe you could throw tayloralesia in there too nowadays.

I think the most amusing part of this for me is that these "tradwife" influencers are more than likely self-made women who are monetizing a trend for clicks. Sure, some of them are probably actually SAHMs but in this day and age of social media engagement, I wouldn't be surprised if these women are pulling in equal or more income than their spouses.

Perhaps someone can take this idea and turn it on its head, writing a story where the wife presents as totally submissive and deferential on screen when in reality, she is the one who calls the shots (in bed, in general) after the camera stops rolling and the man is the one who is deferential to his higher-earning spouse. Others have already suggested similar ideas here, so I think it would be a fun subversion of the trope.

 

[KimAwakened]

Role spaghetti...