Ripped off, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this...

[Member389]

Having your work stolen and posted on You Tube is a rite of passage for writers here in Lit world.

I wouldn't mind so much if I got the credit for it. They're very likely monetizing MY work. I don't even monetize my work!
I can see why people go to Patreon and other platforms that can help to lock down drive by thieves.

 

[Member389]

Years ago the issue was a story being stolen and ending up on some malware riddled fly by night sex site, now its AI voices reading on You Tube.

That's progress for you.

You can get YT to pull it, but these channels are like a hydra, every story you get taken down a half dozen more are there. There are so many of these channels that you see on the sidebar if you watch one of these that I wonder if this is one entity that created a ton of accounts or there are that many doing it.

I also wonder what the point is? None of these seem to be anywhere big enough to monetize.

The account already has a bunch of subscribers, and I mean I was flattered there were over 3500 hits on my story already, but the account is very likely out to monetize it.

 

[Member389]

It happened to me. You'll have to create an account on Youtube, but once you do you can file a request to have your story removed. It only took Youtube two days to delete mine.

I've already submitted the request. The asked for more information which I just supplied. The obvious clues, despite a copy/paste of entire passages was that they changed the character names but the AI fucked up part way through and started using the original name for one of the main characters which prompted several comments on the video of "who in hell is Michelle?"
I wonder how long before Youtube claims that AI has changed it just enough to not be a copyright issue any longer. Since Google is one of the AI owners.
They'll probably sit back and say, "go ahead and sue us, we have plenty of lawyers and time."

 

[Member389]

I imagine your "years ago" scenario remains at issue, just not the issue we're dealing with in this thread.


Yeah, you said that before enough Literotica authors submitted copyright violation claims to shut down the previous channel, that had 11K subscribers and ~100 videos plagiarizing at least 60 Literotica stories written by at least 50 Literotica authors. All of those plagiarized videos have now been permanently taken down.

It's not about shutting down videos one by one, it's about shutting down enough videos within a certain time period (3 videos in a month) to shut down that video plus every other video that Youtube channel has plagiarized:


The point is, everyone is NOT on their own. We work together, we can stop this, or at least slow it down. Yeah it might feel like playing whack-a-mole, but that's how the system works, and as we have seen from this thread and others in AH, we have been and will continue to be successful.


In order to monetize a Youtube channel, you need at least 1,000 subscribers. This new pirate channel exceeded that number immediately:
https://www.tubebuddy.com/blog/youtube-monetization-requirements/

Edit: By the way, I've searched Literotica for some stories that have been turned into videos by other Youtube channels, and have come up empty every time. Some seem to have been written by an AI: plodding, predictable, and repetitive with familiar phrasing (ex: "maybe just maybe"). The stories in the current YT channel at issue are clearly better, as well they should be: they are highly rated stories stolen from where they've been posted on Literotica. If I find another pirate channel, I will share that one here, too. I urge others to do the same.

@MetaBob
Thank you for pointing it out to me in the comments of my story. Your comment is what got me started on this take down crusade.

 

[Member389]

I appended details to the comment I left on your story. Yes, this has happened to other Lit authors, at least 60 others from the person(s) who started this ripoff Youtube channel alone. I provided details. Enough Lit authors sent copyright violation notifications to Youtube that YT eventually shut down the channel entirely. Another channel started up from the same source immediately. That channel is the one you're dealing with now.

Yours was the 8th of 9 stories pirated by this new YT channel since it started 8 days ago, after the old channel was shut down by enough copyright violation claims from Literotica authors.

Here's one of the links I attached to your original (plagiarized!) story, in case you haven't seen it yet, cross-referencing original Literotica stories with the Youtube videos plagiarized from them: https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101160827

I loved your story, by the way.

Thank you!
I honestly thought about killing some time to see if I could find passages from the transcripts also posted from other stories on Lit, but it sounds like you already did that.
You are the real hero we need right now. AI is ripping off real creators and it has to stop. Sadly I don't see much in the way of stopping it until we get our politics straightened out in the US. Billionaires don't get that way without lying, cheating, and most of all stealing.

 

[lovecraft68]

The account already has a bunch of subscribers, and I mean I was flattered there were over 3500 hits on my story already, but the account is very likely out to monetize it.

The eyes, or ears, on the story in a sense isn't a bad thing, but providing they'd give credit to the actual author and perhaps offer a royalty.

Because that's thing with this, it could be done in a mutually beneficial and on the up and up manner, but that would take ethics and work.

Example, a website out of Japan that creates AI characters to interact with paid me a one time $500 fee to use one of my characters. There is a royalty based on if people buy enough coins to "talk" to her but I've seen every little in that sense, but the initial payment is fine, that and its cool. I received free coins to talk to her. I was a bit put off they didn't 'speak' like the character even though you have to provide a sample of dialogue for them to emulate.

 

[MetaBob]

The eyes, or ears, on the story in a sense isn't a bad thing, but providing they'd give credit to the actual author and perhaps offer a royalty.

Because that's thing with this, it could be done in a mutually beneficial and on the up and up manner, but that would take ethics and work.

I suggested something like this three weeks ago, but in thinking further, there are issues. Could Laurel and Manu do this and share revenue with authors whose works they chose? Yes, but it would mean picking some Lit stories over others, which wouldn't be fair to those whose stories were not chosen. Could a third party create a Youtube channel with content they selected and which the author (and Laurel and Manu agreed to share), while linking to the original story? Maybe. Depends on Laurel and Manu, and perhaps on what arrangements were made to share revenue.

I do know that I was pleased when Amazon recorded an AI audio version of one of my published books, but of course that's not free to listen to any more than the digital or paperback original.

The rules are different for free sites, and I'm not sure what options for converting Lit stories are legally sustainable:

I personally think it's an opportunity for strategic partnership. A damn "podcast" steals stories from this site and (no doubt) profits from the views and subscriptions. I have not subscribed to that podcast, fwiw.

There's uncompensated value here -- so many stories are so good. And the stories this "podcast" publishes are like a curated playlist of excellence. Licensing? How would that work? Compensating this site and the individual authors whose works are currently being plagiarized?

For Laurel and Manu to work through -- above my "pay" grade. Might be a win-win.

 

[iwatchus]

Not directly on topic, but I thought it was interesting. Many years ago, I signed up for a service that notifies me when one of my papers is cited. I have been mostly out of that game for a decade, but it is still fun to see my name mentioned. The service send me a new kind of notification, last week. Apparently, a paper of mine from thirty years ago was just recorded in an AI voice and posted. They sent me a link to the recording, but I have not bothered listening to it. I am pretty sure I transferred copyright on the paper to whoever published it. I certainly wouldn't bother going after them even if I still owned the copyright.

 

[MetaBob]

@MetaBob
Thank you for pointing it out to me in the comments of my story. Your comment is what got me started on this take down crusade.

The Youtube video that pirated your Lit story has been taken down. Well done!:

Video unavailable
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by [redacted]

Now we need two more Lit authors to step up so this mole can be well and truly whacked (again). 16 plagiarized videos remain:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101160827

 

[Member389]

The Youtube video that pirated your Lit story has been taken down. Well done!:

Video unavailable
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by [redacted]

Now we need two more Lit authors to step up so this mole can be well and truly whacked (again). 16 more videos remain:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101160827

 

[MetaBob]

View attachment 2551511

And now we reach the pirate playbook's next chapter, where other videos start disappearing. Of the 16 that remained an hour ago, there are now only 3. One thing that's changed from the last time is that in addition to taking some videos private for a time:

Private video
Sign in if you've been granted access to this video

... the channel plagiarist has apparently removed two others voluntarily:

Video unavailable
This video has been removed by the uploader

Perhaps most interesting is that the error message for Member389's plagiarized video, which formerly attributed the reason for removal to a copyright claim by his Google ID:

Video unavailable
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by [redacted]

... has been changed to (emphasis mine):

Video unavailable
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party

Perhaps this means that anyone, not just the copyright holder, can claim a copyright violation for a plagiarized video on this channel? @Member389 or @Actingup would seem most likely to obtain the desired result by making a claim as "a third party" when they have already successfully gotten videos plagiarizing their own work removed, but I might just try this myself. Here's a current cross-referenced list: https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101160827

Edit: The plagiarizer just uploaded a new video that's Part 2 of the last one he uploaded yesterday. So now 4 videos containing content pirated from Literotica authors are publicly accessible on their Youtube channel.

 

[MetaBob]

Pirate video channel playbook chapter 3: All videos become unavailable.

Most of the videos plagiarized by this "Silken Secrets Stories" Youtube channel have been taken private, one was deleted voluntarily by the uploader, and one was deleted by Youtube after a copyright violation complaint by the Literotica author (Bravo @Member389 !) who wrote the story and who was plagiarized for monetary gain without being credited and without that monetary gain being shared). The channel currently has 1.48K subscribers after less than 2 weeks of being online, which is a lot less than the ~11K subscribers the previous channel gained after being online for ~9 months.

I imagine that the reason this channel has taken its remaining content private is because a second Literotica author filed a copyright violation complaint, which is exactly what was happening en route to the previous Youtube channel being taken down permanently.

Note that the current Youtube channel plagiarizing Literotica and its authors is still extant, it just doesn't have any videos publicly available at the moment. Their plagiarizing uploader can still make those videos public with the flip of a switch, so we must remain vigilant.

My current list of the Literotica stories that have been plagiarized cross-referenced with the Youtube videos plagiarizing those stories is here:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101160827

 

[MetaBob]

Pirate video channel playbook chapter 3: All videos become unavailable.

Most of the videos plagiarized by this "Silken Secrets Stories" Youtube channel have been taken private, one was deleted voluntarily by the uploader, and one was deleted by Youtube after a copyright violation complaint by the Literotica author (Bravo @Member389 !) who wrote the story and who was plagiarized for monetary gain without being credited and without that monetary gain being shared). The channel currently has 1.48K subscribers after less than 2 weeks of being online, which is a lot less than the ~11K subscribers the previous channel gained after being online for ~9 months.

I imagine that the reason this channel has taken its remaining content private is because a second Literotica author filed a copyright violation complaint, which is exactly what was happening en route to the previous Youtube channel being taken down permanently.

Note that the current Youtube channel plagiarizing Literotica and its authors is still extant, it just doesn't have any videos publicly available at the moment. Their plagiarizing uploader can still make those videos public with the flip of a switch, so we must remain vigilant.

My current list of the Literotica stories that have been plagiarized cross-referenced with the Youtube videos plagiarizing those stories is here:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101160827

Another update: While this plagiarizing uploader Youtube channel still exists, all of its uploaded videos (cross-referenced here to the Literotica stories being plagiarized) have moved to one of two states:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party

This video has been removed by the uploader

So while this channel might reawaken later, I suspect that if the uploader wants to continue monetizing Literotica stories through plagiarism, this will happen through yet another channel that I have not yet stumbled across. I will keep looking.

 

[lovecraft68]

Another update: While this plagiarizing uploader Youtube channel still exists, all of its uploaded videos (cross-referenced here to the Literotica stories being plagiarized) have moved to one of two states:



So while this channel might reawaken later, I suspect that if the uploader wants to continue monetizing Literotica stories through plagiarism, this will happen through yet another channel that I have not yet stumbled across. I will keep looking.

My question is if this site had multiple complaints legit enough for all these stories to be pulled

Why doesn't YT remove the channel?

This is a site that if you say something they dislike politically you'll be demonetized and either buried in searches or banned, but you can prove yourself a thief and....live to do it another day.

Who am I kidding, sounds about right.

Before your time here there was a huge ordeal when I discovered a long time VE here had been taking stories people sent to them to edit and posting them as their own for sale on Amazon. Over 300 titles and once a lot of people here got involved dozens were proven to be from here with more being discovered daily. Lot of reports, nothing and eventually Laurel took all the info and went to them as the owner of the site. They ended up with 90% of the books removed but their account was still intact. Meanwhile you hear stories all the time of a person's account being banned over one e-book that had some made up violation.

What I'm getting at is they really don't care.

 

[Gamblnluck]

Yeah, but how do you get plagiarized if you're not a popular author?

You don't necessarily have to be popular. There are a couple things I've seen that are common for the stories I ran across (including my own). The story line has to get a decent review on Lit. It can't have too much overt sex in it. Sexual content has to be in a form they can use. It can hint etc all day long just not be too explicit.
Guess what? At least a few of your stories qualify. I was told by a couple readers who ran across my stories.

 

[Gamblnluck]

The eyes, or ears, on the story in a sense isn't a bad thing, but providing they'd give credit to the actual author and perhaps offer a royalty.

I might not have minded if I'd gotten credit or a royalty. They were simply stolen. I did add a comment to one to say the story was stolen and I was the original author.

 

[Gamblnluck]

Why doesn't YT remove the channel?

This is a site that if you say something they dislike politically you'll be demonetized and either buried in searches or banned, but you can prove yourself a thief and....live to do it another day.

Some of the channels are taken down. Then the person sets up another using a different name. It's like a game of Whack-a-Mole.

 

[WCSGarland]

You don't necessarily have to be popular. There are a couple things I've seen that are common for the stories I ran across (including my own). The story line has to get a decent review on Lit. It can't have too much overt sex in it. Sexual content has to be in a form they can use. It can hint etc all day long just not be too explicit.
Guess what? At least a few of your stories qualify. I was told by a couple readers who ran across my stories.

Dang, pretty certain mine are really explicit.

 

[MetaBob]

Dang, pretty certain mine are really explicit.

Explicit is not much of a barrier. I've described how this particular plagiarizer worked around scenes that are too explicit before, both in this channel and their previous channel, which was shut down after Youtube received and confirmed three copyright violation filings from the Literotica authors whose work had been plagiarized. So far, this channel only appears to have received one complaint, which means the pirate uploader is probably lying low for a few weeks. Maybe they'll resume then, or maybe they will have (or already have) switched to one or more other channels. Hard to know:

One thing that hasn't changed, probably to conform to Youtube's content rules, is that some NSFW words and phrases are altered: explicit sexual references are either removed or replaced with terms like "intimacy". "Beer", "wine", "whiskey", and "alcohol" get changed to "drink". Etc. Also, as with the old channel, comments posted to the video that refer to the story having been stolen, such as the one @ActingUp showed us yesterday, are being removed.

 

[lilshymynx]

My question is if this site had multiple complaints legit enough for all these stories to be pulled

Why doesn't YT remove the channel?

This is a site that if you say something they dislike politically you'll be demonetized and either buried in searches or banned, but you can prove yourself a thief and....live to do it another day.

Who am I kidding, sounds about right.

Before your time here there was a huge ordeal when I discovered a long time VE here had been taking stories people sent to them to edit and posting them as their own for sale on Amazon. Over 300 titles and once a lot of people here got involved dozens were proven to be from here with more being discovered daily. Lot of reports, nothing and eventually Laurel took all the info and went to them as the owner of the site. They ended up with 90% of the books removed but their account was still intact. Meanwhile you hear stories all the time of a person's account being banned over one e-book that had some made up violation.

What I'm getting at is they really don't care.

It takes 3 verified copyright strikes to take down a channel. The first channel that was hosting the stolen stories got that and was taken down by YT.

YT isn't pulling down all the videos, only the ones that it gets a valid claim on. The channel owner has gotten smart after losing the first channel and is pulling down the rest of the vids, likely in response to that first copyright claim hit, to prevent claims from being filed against them.

It's a cat and mouse game at this point. Dribbling in claims isn't going to be effective, there needs to be a blitzkrieg of copyright claims so the thief can't pivot.

 

[TiberiusPrime]

I'd love to know who this guy is at YT, just so I can check to see if my stuff has been stolen.

 

[dirk2024]

Having your work stolen and posted on You Tube is a rite of passage for writers here in Lit world.

I thought YouTube was anti-porn?

 

[Cagivagurl]

I thought YouTube was anti-porn?

I thought the same...
I guess the dollar rules...
If they can make money, they don't seem to care.
They're arseholes to deal with thought...
They make it so difficult to get anything taken down...
I had some success, but they popped up again under a different account...

Cagivagurl

 

[MetaBob]

Another update: While this plagiarizing uploader Youtube channel still exists, all of its uploaded videos (cross-referenced here to the Literotica stories being plagiarized) have moved to one of two states:

So while this channel might reawaken later, I suspect that if the uploader wants to continue monetizing Literotica stories through plagiarism, this will happen through yet another channel that I have not yet stumbled across. I will keep looking.

Update: The plagiarizing channel has been taken down. That makes two since I started trying to stop this plagiarism of Literotica stories and authors last month. I thank those who did so with other outlets before me and documented it here and elsewhere in AH for the example. I have not located another channel by the same uploader of similar content from here, but wouldn't be surprised to stumble across one eventually. I HAVE located another channel that uploaded dozens of Literotica stories, but they don't seem to have the same sophistication, or are able to monetize these videos, so I think it's under different management. At least two authors that I cross-referenced in this link have expressed interest in submitting a copyright violation notice:

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101222773

 

[Fatdog25]

Update: The plagiarizing channel has been taken down. That makes two since I started trying to stop this plagiarism of Literotica stories and authors last month. I thank those who did so with other outlets before me and documented it here and elsewhere in AH for the example. I have not located another channel by the same uploader of similar content from here, but wouldn't be surprised to stumble across one eventually. I HAVE located another channel that uploaded dozens of Literotica stories, but they don't seem to have the same sophistication, or are able to monetize these videos, so I think it's under different management. At least two authors that I cross-referenced in this link have expressed interest in submitting a copyright violation notice:

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...rotica-podcast-network.1628736/post-101222773

I wonder if this had anything to do with it.

https://techstartups.com/2025/07/09/youtube-to-demonetize-ai-generated-videos-starting-july-15/