Judaism AMA

[Noor]

You believe in the Torah.


You're the one who is doing that. You have faith and belief in your religion and for some reason you don't understand that.

Belief isn't a true/false thing. You believe the Torah contains wisdom. You believe that the words help you in some way. You have faith in the words you're reading and the people who share your religious perspective.

As a non religious person, I don't give a fuck about christians or jewish or muslim or buddhist beliefs or faith. I acknowledge that people have beliefs in these things but none are more special than any other.

You do seem to think that your religion is superior based on your posts here... Which isn't much different than christian believers, imo.

It’s not superior but it’s also not only a religion like Christianity, it’s a people. I think that’s what you not getting. You seriously are looking at it through a Christian lens, even if you are a non believer in Christianity, that seems to be your view on religions

 

[ll74]

It’s not superior but it’s also not only a religion like Christianity, it’s a people

It's a belief.
People believe in it. Chsiritians are also people.

. I think that’s what you not getting. You seriously are looking at it through a Christian lens, even if you are a non believer in Christianity, that seems to be your view on religions

A belief in a religion is not a christian specific concept.

If you subscribe to a religion, then you believe in that religion...you have faith about their religious dogma. No religion is different than another in that aspect.

 

[ll74]

Hahahahaha!

I misstated then.....it should read religion is a faith based concept. I have corrected the original post to reflect that

 

[ll74]

I believe you’re an idiot and I have no faith in anything you say.

Neat

Many here practice that Religion.

Possibly.

Maybe you can create a thread about this

Lol

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You believe in the Torah.


You're the one who is doing that. You have faith and belief in your religion and for some reason you don't understand that.

Belief isn't a true/false thing. You believe the Torah contains wisdom. You believe that the words help you in some way. You have faith in the words you're reading and the people who share your religious perspective.

As a non religious person, I don't give a fuck about christians or jewish or muslim or buddhist beliefs or faith. I acknowledge that people have beliefs in these things but none are more special than any other.

You do seem to think that your religion is superior based on your posts here... Which isn't much different than christian believers, imo.

Judaism is superior in that it doesn’t force itself on other people. The big problem with Christianity and Islam is that they’re colonizer religions. They try to force everyone to believe as they believe.

Much of antisemitism through the ages simply comes down to gentile’s refusal to take “no” for an answer from the Jews.

 

[ll74]

Judaism is superior in that it doesn’t force itself on other people. The big problem with Christianity and Islam is that they’re colonizer religions. They try to force everyone to believe as they believe.

your belief is that your religion is superior because of the marketing strategy. That's a fun one I haven't heard before.
I don't care that you don't like other religions.
I don't like any religion.
I don't dislike anyone because they believe in one nor do I care if they don't agree with me about religion.

Much of antisemitism through the ages simply comes down to their refusal to take “no” for an answer from the Jews.

Interesting take. I don't agree with that.
I'm not antisemitic.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

your belief is that your religion is superior because of the marketing strategy. That's a fun one I haven't heard before.
I don't care that you don't like other religions.
I don't like any religion.


Interesting take. I don't agree with that.
I'm not antisemitic.

Why don’t you like religion?

 

[ll74]

Why don’t you like religion?

Because it's a belief based on nothing. Ok, you'll probably say it's based on a book of rules......to me those rules mean nothing.

Probably better to say that I don't need or want a religion. I am indifferent to religious people.

 

[ll74]

My face is a butt.

Bwahaha

Hmmm...

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Because it's a belief based on nothing. Ok, you'll probably say it's based on a book of rules......to me those rules mean nothing.

Probably better to say that I don't need or want a religion. I am indifferent to religious people.

Do you observe any holidays? Thanksgiving? Fourth of July? Mothers Day?

 

[ll74]

Do you observe any holidays? Thanksgiving? Fourth of July? Mothers Day?

Yes, I do.... To some degree.

Some holidays are based on events which are remembered. Memorial Day, for example, pays respect to soldiers who have died.

Thanksgiving is a made up event based on some guy who landed in South America. The only thing I observe smis a bunch of food that lasts for a week in my fridge.

Fourth of July is about our country.
Mother's Day is about my Mother.

christmas and easter are made up holidays about a story.

I enjoy the days off when I get them.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Yes, I do.... To some degree.

Some holidays are based on events which are remembered. Memorial Day, for example, pays respect to soldiers who have died.

Thanksgiving is a made up event based on some guy who landed in South America. The only thing I observe smis a bunch of food that lasts for a week in my fridge.

Fourth of July is about our country.
Mother's Day is about my Mother.

christmas and easter are made up holidays about a story.

I enjoy the days off when I get them.

Jewish holidays are similar. Many celebrate ancient victories (Hanukkah, Purim, Pesach). The High Holy Days (Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah) mark the turning of the year in two different ways, taking stock of what has happened to you or making amends for any wrongs you have done. None of the Jewish holidays involve faith or belief.

 

[ll74]

Jewish holidays are similar. Many celebrate ancient victories (Hanukkah, Purim, Pesach). The High Holy Days (Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah) mark the turning of the year in two different ways, taking stock of what has happened to you or making amends for any wrongs you have done.

What makes you want to take stock of that?

None of the Jewish holidays involve faith or belief.

You believe the holiday is worth observing.

faith and belief aren't christian words. I'm not sure why they are to you. It's truly an odd thing.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I have yet to see any DNA that is actually listed as Palestinian because it doesn’t exist.

The above video might be the most elegant clap back against the "but..but...no DNA!" misdirection I've ever seen.

Well done, Politruk.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What makes you want to take stock of that?


You believe the holiday is worth observing.

faith and belief aren't christian words. I'm not sure why they are to you. It's truly an odd thing.

It's fun to celebrate New Years. It's also a convenient time to let go of old grudges and make amends for any harm you might have caused during the past year.

Judaism is like a big family with 15 million cousins and family traditions stretching back 1000s of years. People get confused because two groups of religious fanatics started cults based on Jewish traditions. But we're nothing like the Muslims and the Christians. They just stole our stories.

 

[ll74]

It's fun to celebrate New Years. It's also a convenient time to let go of old grudges and make amends for any harm you might have caused during the past year.

It is. But that has nothing to do with a belief. That is a time

Judaism is like a big family with 15 million cousins and family traditions stretching back 1000s of years.

So are other religions.

People get confused because two groups of religious fanatics started cults based on Jewish traditions. But we're nothing like the Muslims and the Christians. They just stole our stories.

Yes, I get it Your religious belief is superior to other's and this is important to you to let everyone know.

I don't get confused about your religion or any other religion. And I certainly don't rank religions in any way. It seems odd to me that you need stories to be owned by your religion, as if other people owe you something. I'd suggest that wouldn't really reflect well on your religion.

 

[LeahWill]

It's fun to celebrate New Years. It's also a convenient time to let go of old grudges and make amends for any harm you might have caused during the past year.

Judaism is like a big family with 15 million cousins and family traditions stretching back 1000s of years. People get confused because two groups of religious fanatics started cults based on Jewish traditions. But we're nothing like the Muslims and the Christians. They just stole our stories.

Genuine question as I truly cannot understand this.

Why do you worship a 'god'? (And for the purpose of this question I am accepting that one exists)

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Genuine question as I truly cannot understand this.

Why do you worship a 'god'? (And for the purpose of this question I am accepting that one exists)

Jews don't really "worship" God. We give thanks to Him for all that He has done for us. This is probably best illustrated by the Passover prayer "Dayenu" which literally means "it would have been enough."

In the Haggadah we list all the things that God has done for us: Brought us out of Egypt, parted the Red Sea, led us to Mount Sinai, gave us the Torah, etc. At the end of each item, the people around the table say "Dayenu!" which means if God had just done that and nothing more, it would have been enough. At the end the whole list is read again with the coda "but God did all these things! And for that we should be thankful!"

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

It is. But that has nothing to do with a belief. That is a time


So are other religions.


Yes, I get it Your religious belief is superior to other's and this is important to you to let everyone know.

I don't get confused about your religion or any other religion. And I certainly don't rank religions in any way. It seems odd to me that you need stories to be owned by your religion, as if other people owe you something. I'd suggest that wouldn't really reflect well on your religion.

This thread is about Judaism. I started it because a lot of people are ignorant about how Jews practice Judaism. I only care about Islam and Christianity appropriating Jewish stories because they're much bigger movements than Judaism and their weird retellings of our stories adds to people's misunderstanding of what Judaism really is and how Jews practice it.

 

[AnomalyLady]

I found a rare video of @RobDownSouth and @Politruk

 

[ll74]

This thread is about Judaism.

I'm aware of that.

I started it because a lot of people are ignorant about how Jews practice Judaism. I only care about Islam and Christianity appropriating Jewish stories because they're much bigger movements than Judaism and their weird retellings of out stories adds to people's misunderstanding of what Judaism really is and how Jews practice it.

Yes, I'm aware of the reasoning.

But saying it's not a belief or faith is incorrect.

And I wasn't expecting such a long back and forth on the topic tbh

 

[RobDownSouth]

I found a rare video of @RobDownSouth and @Politruk

Life is too short to put up with untermensch like you. Off to Ignoreland you go!

Oh speaking of "life being too short", I leave you with one of my favorite Yiddish signoffs:
מי ייתן וילד ייקרא על שמך בקרוב

I sincerely hope you have the life you deserve.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I'm aware of that.


Yes, I'm aware of the reasoning.

But saying it's not a belief or faith is incorrect.

And I wasn't expecting such a long back and forth on the topic tbh

I was. There are a lot of misconceptions about Judaism, particularly among culturally-Christian atheists.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Life is too short to put up with untermensch like you. Off to Ignoreland you go!

Oh speaking of "life being too short", I leave you with one of my favorite Yiddish signoffs:
מי ייתן וילד ייקרא על שמך בקרוב

I sincerely hope you have the life you deserve.

Reported.

 

[ll74]

I was. There are a lot of misconceptions about Judaism, particularly among culturally-Christian atheists.

It's a belief and a faith.

That's objective fact, not a misconception. Every religion is.... Doesn't matter which one.

Now if we were talking about atheism or agnosticism, then you would be correct.