LilKitKat's thread

Catching up from yesterday. Agreed, no one is truly 100% hetero. I think a lot of people are just in denial and/or committed to old ways of thinking. It's like relax ... sex should feel good, and that feeling is just as psychological as it is physical. If seeing a dick turns you, as a guy, on, then roll with it.

Before my wife and I got together she briefly dated a girl. She said they never did anything, that she chickened out when the girl tried to kiss her and that's where it all ended.

But still ...

So a couple days ago, I told her I had a dream that her best friend, her, and I, had a threesome. They call themselves twins, I don't really see it/I think my wife is much more attractive, but I'll admit the friend is a very attractive woman, herself. They both kinda look like Lauren London did when she first came out.

My wife is extremely jealous. So I expected her to be more upset ... or any kind of upset. But she kinda smirked, joked about it, and carried on.

I've always felt like my wife is the "follower" in that dynamic. She almost idolizes her friend. And I think a part of her would actually love to be sexually submissive to that same friend.

But ... My wife is also one of those people who thinks extremely old-fashioned. She thinks it's gay for a man to have anal sex with a woman. Yes, unfortunately you read that correctly.

It wasn't an argument between us, of course I asked at one point, she replied with that and confused, it became a conversation topic. Her thinking basically goes, why would a man want to do what he could do with another man, when he could have regular vaginal sex, which he can only do with women. I wasn't pressuring her for anal but I'm just like yo, there is NOTHING gay that a man and woman can do together (pegging could toe the line to some, but not me).

Eventually she offered to try it but now I'm turned off at the idea (with her, particularly). I'm like, drowning in vanilla and the rigor of social conformity over here...

Any I KNOW she's dying to lick her besties cooch.

As for how the dynamic could go, sex can be totally recreational for me. I think a part of her is also afraid I'd develop feelings, which I wouldn't. Not the kind that would make me want to end my marriage. But here's the thing, I'd actually be cool with her fucking the besties boyfriend. Like, we can be one little group of "anything goes" and have such a satisfying sex life.
thansk for the background info.
yeah methinks your wife grew up possibly in a more conservative/religious house or maybe small-town or something?
i know plenty of kinks and fetishes arent for everyone, and heck, expanding the marriage to include other sexual partners is also definitely not for everyone, and also anal sex isnt for everyone, but sounds like she might be a bit too vanilla for you. maybe try some really basic stuff that goes beyond pure vanilla...like have her dress up in...you know...a schoolgirl uniform...or...nurses uniform...or roleplay as a teacher and student? or do light spankings, a blindfold, that sort? maybe ease her into the idea of expanding that world and then see where it take you two (or even four?!)!
 
I appreciate it. I'm personally not into role play or dress up. We did actually try the anal, this might be the first time a guy has said this but ... I didn't like it. I've done it with other women and enjoyed it. With her, it felt wrong/wasn't enjoyable because I can't get out of my head on her earlier opinion. Sure people change but, sometimes people are just checking off boxes. And what I've seen from her in general is that her opinions don't really change. I went along with it because she asked and I hate to say no in the midst of sex. But I told her afterwards we don't need to do that anymore.

Sex, for me, is at least as psychological as it is physical. IMO, this is at the heart of kink. We kinky people get a mental high that goes along with the physical stimulation. They're distinct but closely related. People more on the vanilla side tend to not relate to that.

I'm not at all pushing to open it. I told her about my dream, watched her reaction, that's that. I've had enough experiences with her to not even really want to go down the path of that conversation. Just moreso getting it out here, sorry to take over your thread.
 
WOW

just fucking wow

just lurked on bean's thread because I knew she would post something else and certainly did. Instead of posting how I said we should stop messaging for a beat because the misunderstandings and miscommunication was getting heated, she continuted to paint herself as some saint and me as some sassy/angry/feisty lil whatever, not to mention distrorted the timeline (and changed my wording no less...) to suit her needs. Frankly, its soured me even more on this place to take it completely public like that when all I said was I dont want the extra drama in my life. But I should have guessed that would also be a case of misunderstanding/miscommunication.
C'est la vie.

And I woke up today ready to msg Bean and my fave troll and see if we can break bread and have common ground. But I guess that isnt happening.

Sigh.

I think I am going to take a fucking break.

Peace out Lit.
 
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But no, we're actually both from a big city. Her mother was more religious, and is still living. My father was more religious, but died when I was in elementary school. Its kinda a weird mix. She's not particularly religious, per se. I'd say she's dogmatic though. I'm barely religious, but love the Bible and can generally cite a story from the Bible (not necessarily chapter and verse) that might apply to a given context. Though I'm no Bible thumper, there's just a certain comfort in some of the lessons and I overall find it a very interesting read. We've moved recently, I decided to keep my house back in our hometown. And my home office has a shelf with the Torah next to the Bible, next to the Qur'an. I just read a lot of different stuff. And though, in her mind she's more faithful than me, I've always felt like you can't really be faithful and intentionally ignorant to your faith, I can take her front to back on not just the Bible, but all the books of Abrahamic religions--and still not feel compelled to stand up in church every Sunday or have a desire to convert anyone.

*I also read the Sutta Pitaka, Guru Granth Sahib, and a few others. I had a really interesting course in college called "Comparative Religion" that really opened by mind to be curious and love what's special about all faiths (well, most). And later in life through politics I met a follower of Ifa, and dove into that. As a black man myself, I was deeply interested in a faith system some of my ancestors may have followed, and Ifa is one of the few religions that actually says "it's okay to follow other religious" which blew my mind, lol*
 
WOW

just fucking wow

just lurked on bean's thread because I knew she would post something else and certainly did. Instead of posting how I said we should stop messaging for a beat because the misunderstandings and miscommunication was getting heated, she continuted to paint herself as some saint and me as some sassy/angry/feisty lil whatever, not to mention distrorted the timeline (and changed my wording no less...) to suit her needs. Frankly, its soured me even more on this place to take it completely public like that when all I said was I dont want the extra drama in my life. But I should have guessed that would also be a case of misunderstanding/miscommunication.
C'est la vie.

And I woke up today ready to msg Bean and my fave troll and see if we can break bread and have common ground. But I guess that isnt happening.

Sigh.

I think I am going to take a fucking break.

Peace out Lit.
I just want to gently clarify, at no point did I describe or imply you were sassy, angry, or feisty. :cry: That genuinely wasn’t the tone or intention of anything I wrote. I was careful to speak from my own perspective and experience, not to assign traits or motives to anyone else. I understand that this situation has been a lil emotionally charged for both of us, and again I’m sorry if anything I shared came across differently than I intended. Please don't feel the need for a break with regard to this silly incident. Water under the bridge would be a nice way for this to end! <3
 
I just want to gently clarify, at no point did I describe or imply you were sassy, angry, or feisty. :cry: That genuinely wasn’t the tone or intention of anything I wrote. I was careful to speak from my own perspective and experience, not to assign traits or motives to anyone else. I understand that this situation has been a lil emotionally charged for both of us, and again I’m sorry if anything I shared came across differently than I intended. Please don't feel the need for a break with regard to this silly incident. Water under the bridge would be a nice way for this to end! <3
pardon me, was conflating that with other messages surrounding this issue that came to me.
my bad on that.
 
I appreciate it. I'm personally not into role play or dress up. We did actually try the anal, this might be the first time a guy has said this but ... I didn't like it. I've done it with other women and enjoyed it. With her, it felt wrong/wasn't enjoyable because I can't get out of my head on her earlier opinion. Sure people change but, sometimes people are just checking off boxes. And what I've seen from her in general is that her opinions don't really change. I went along with it because she asked and I hate to say no in the midst of sex. But I told her afterwards we don't need to do that anymore.

Sex, for me, is at least as psychological as it is physical. IMO, this is at the heart of kink. We kinky people get a mental high that goes along with the physical stimulation. They're distinct but closely related. People more on the vanilla side tend to not relate to that.

I'm not at all pushing to open it. I told her about my dream, watched her reaction, that's that. I've had enough experiences with her to not even really want to go down the path of that conversation. Just moreso getting it out here, sorry to take over your thread.
sounds quite familiar to me and my situation. best of luck :cool:
 
WOW

just fucking wow

just lurked on bean's thread because I knew she would post something else and certainly did. Instead of posting how I said we should stop

Don't let others have such control over you. That is the essence of bullying, if you give them no power, they have no control. Don't let them win, Kit. I can say firsthand how difficult find it to ignore people who piss me off. Essentially, I let them win by garnering a response and giving them the fuel they so desperately desire.
On the other hand, I understand if you feel the need to step away for a bit. It would suck, a lot of us will miss you until/if you return. Your mental and physical needs trump any selfish desires any of us have here. Only you can make that decision. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
 
Don't let others have such control over you. That is the essence of bullying, if you give them no power, they have no control. Don't let them win, Kit. I can say firsthand how difficult find it to ignore people who piss me off. Essentially, I let them win by garnering a response and giving them the fuel they so desperately desire.
On the other hand, I understand if you feel the need to step away for a bit. It would suck, a lot of us will miss you until/if you return. Your mental and physical needs trump any selfish desires any of us have here. Only you can make that decision. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
I’m sorry but this is getting out of hand. Please explain how I’m “bullying.”
 
Please read his message. He was responding to your thread post regarding my earlier post on my feed. No need to, again, publicly make me seem argumentative and dramatical.
I interpreted it as being to Bilbo/GuitarGuy...dont recall which offhand
 
The same "gentleman" 🙄🙄🙄 left a shitty comment on my story (as far as I can tell, the only comment he's ever left on any story) and then posted in my Playground thread that he feels sorry for my husband. I engaged him in the self-depricatory fashion I often use when someone posts that (he wasn't the first, probably won't be the last). He followed up with a PM where I explained myself and then called him on his shitty and incorrect comment on my story. He advised me I was not worth his time, which earned him a 💋 as my response. He then asked me to stop PMing him, which got a 👍 from me. 😁😁😁
As I like women I will phrase it like this.

Why when a confident woman decides to stand out from the crowd why do some feel the need to give her a verbal beat down?

As my Grandmother said 'if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything'.
 
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