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SgtSpiderMan said:
He campaigned that he would send the military into cities against American citizens??
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He campaigned on dealing with illegal migrants and yes, if it takes the military to keep order he did campaign on that also. The military is in a defensive posture, but nice try.
 
icanhelp1 said:
He campaigned on dealing with illegal migrants and yes, if it takes the military to keep order he did campaign on that also. The military is in a defensive posture, but nice try.
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A military force used for domestic policing is not in a defensive posture.
 
jomar said:
Could be. He definitely ran on a xenophobic platform.


Yeah, except people who aren’t under the influence are one voice in saying what he’s done sending in unsolicited military is so far outside of normalcy and historical precedent that it might actually be illegal.
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Protesting ICE and other federal agents for upholding and enforcing immigration law is outside the norms.
jomar said:
Your boy wants an excuse to invoke the insurrection act so he’s just fine fanning the flames by escalating, which is what ramping up the extraditions to 3,000 a day (want to take a guess what % they’ll get wrong) and unnecessarily sending in the troops is doing.
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Blame Biden!
 
icanhelp1 said:
More fire! fire! hair on fire!
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A tad dramatic, perhaps. That said, you have blinders on because he’s trampling all over democracy and the constitution in his authoritarian efforts.

icanhelp1 said:
Protesting ICE and other federal agents for upholding and enforcing immigration law is outside the norms.
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Protesting is absolutely within the norms as a first amendment right. What they’re protesting is the cruel, authoritarian, lack of due process, and anti-rule of law way ICE is doing it at trump’s behest.

icanhelp1 said:
Blame Biden!
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You’re going to have to explain this one.
 
jomar said:
A tad dramatic, perhaps. That said, you have blinders on because he’s trampling all over democracy and the constitution in his authoritarian efforts.
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How is he trampling all over the constitution? States are illegally trampling over immigration laws. The federal government has all authority concerning immigration, that’s the law of the land. Read up on the supremacy clause.
jomar said:
Protesting is absolutely within the norms as a first amendment right. What they’re protesting is the cruel, authoritarian, lack of due process, and anti-rule of law way ICE is doing it at trump’s behest.
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Bullshit, I’m not even going to argue that bullshit.
jomar said:
You’re going to have to explain this one.
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Politruk said:
But it is illegal for him to send in Marines, and illegal to federalize the NG without first consulting with the governor.
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Actually only the governor is supposed to be able to send in their own states national guards.
 
icanhelp1 said:
How is he trampling all over the constitution? States are illegally trampling over immigration laws. The federal government has all authority concerning immigration, that’s the law of the land. Read up on the supremacy clause.
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Unfortunately, I couldn’t find how to post a google search results link. If you know how I’m all ears. In the meantime this is a bit unkempt and incomplete, but you get the idea, trump is multi-tasking, not just about immigration

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House.gov
http://democrats-appropriations.house.gov › press-releases

Mar 14, 2025 — The Trump Administration is breaking the law and undermining the Constitution every day by illegally stealing funds for the programs that help ...

Mazars and Vance, and President Trump's Ongoing ...​

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American Constitution Society
https://www.acslaw.org › mazars-and-vance-and-presid...

But President Trump's assault on our constitutional structures extends well beyond his rhetoric. The examples are legion, but here are just a few: He has ...

Trump's Counter-Constitution​

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Verfassungsblog
https://verfassungsblog.de › trumps-counter-constitution

Feb 21, 2025 — The US Constitution is practically impossible to amend. Trump is therefore revising the Constitution in the only way that US law makes possible.

What's a constitutional crisis? Here's how Trump's recent ...​

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Ohio Capital Journal
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Mar 3, 2025 — Unlike Lincoln or Roosevelt, Trump is trying to seize the powers of Congress and unilaterally transform the federal government. Roosevelt worked ...

Trump's claims of vast presidential powers run up against ...​

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The Conversation
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Feb 25, 2025 — Currently, there are more than 80 lawsuits challenging Trump's executive orders for violating both federal law and the Constitution. Some ...
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Trump's assault on the First Amendment​

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International Bar Association
https://www.ibanet.org › Trumps-assault-on-the-First-A...

May 14, 2025 — The Trump administration has executed a wide-ranging crackdown on freedom of speech by targeting student protestors, lawyers and the press.

Trump's Actions Have Created a Constitutional Crisis ...​

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The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics

Feb 12, 2025 — Law professors have long debated what the term means. But now many have concluded that the nation faces a reckoning as President Trump tests the boundaries of ...

Trump, asked if he has to 'uphold the Constitution,' says, 'I ...​

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NBC News
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May 4, 2025 — Trump argued that fulfilling his promise to rapidly carry out mass deportations may take precedence over giving immigrants the right to due ...
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icanhelp1 said:
Bullshit, I’m not even going to argue that bullshit.
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Says a lot that you don’t support the first amendment.
 
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LA is burning and its politicians are siding with non citizen rioters. I love it. I do not want the Feds or troops there either. The Eses are planning on a big push into certain neighborhoods now that LAPD is a bit occupied.
Bring out the popcorn. This is going to be fun.
 
lliicckkss said:
😭🤣 what you even talking about
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I am watching videos on Spanish language sites of blacks being ambushed in cars and having the either stolen or burnt. Since LAPD is not enforcing many laws outside of trying to stop the city from burning, the Eses (latino gangsters) are saying now is the time to expand their territory and operations.
 
wallstreetguy said:
I am watching videos on Spanish language sites of blacks being ambushed in cars and having the either stolen or burnt. Since LAPD is not enforcing many laws outside of trying to stop the city from burning, the Eses (latino gangsters) are saying now is the time to expand their territory and operations.
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Another gang war in LA? *yawn*
 
L.A. police chief on the record saying paid agitators are burning it down….

Who saw that coming? 🙄
 
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