The most important political divide is generational

[Politruk]

A majority of voters under 30 align with the Democrats; Republicans have the edge among those over 60.

This is not a stage-of-life thing -- people do not grow more conservative as they age. It is a generational-culture thing.

 

[Politruk]

This means a Seventh Party System with Dems as the "Sun Party" and Pubs as the "Moon Party" is pretty much inevitable.

 

[Baztrachian]

The Democrats have been losing young men all across the board. Even MSNBC notes this:

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...-voters-2024-election-trump-harris-rcna209582

 

[Politruk]

The Democrats have been losing young men all across the board. Even MSNBC notes this:

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...-voters-2024-election-trump-harris-rcna209582

But the GOP only has a majority among males over 50.

 

[Baztrachian]

But the GOP only has a majority among males over 50.

Guys in their 20's, 30's, and 40's eventually turn into guys in their 50's.

 

[Politruk]

Guys in their 20's, 30's, and 40's eventually turn into guys in their 50's.

That will not turn them Republican.

 

[Baztrachian]

That will not turn them Republican.

The statistics say otherwise, don't they?

 

[ChinoMoreno]

The statistics say otherwise, don't they?

Bro it's crazy how some people lose their morals as they age.

 

[Politruk]

The statistics say otherwise, don't they?

No -- people do not grow more conservative as they age. It's a generational-culture thing, and that remains more or less stable throughout one's life.

 

[Baztrachian]

Bro it's crazy how some people lose their morals as they age.

More like some people think they can make better decisions on how to manage their money than the government can.

No kidding, most of the guys I know who moved into the conservative column did so over financial concerns.

 

[Justplainjeff]

A majority of voters under 30 align with the Democrats; Republicans have the edge among those over 60.

This is not a stage-of-life thing -- people do not grow more conservative as they age. It is a generational-culture thing.

Does anyone consider the fact that the age groups with the lowest voter turnouts are 18-25 group and the 26-30 group? Ever consider these age groups just can't be bothered to vote? Until this chages, the party in power will stay there. IMHO.

 

[Baztrachian]

No -- people do not grow more conservative as they age. It's a generational-culture thing, and that remains more or less stable throughout one's life.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mr-personality/201410/why-are-older-people-more-conservative

A good article for you to read from a source that I expect both of us would trust on the subject.

 

[Saint_Ann]

More likely immaturity and niavety attract younglings to the emotion party.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Cancer_mAnn is decrepit, so his political affiliation checks out.

 

[Politruk]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mr-personality/201410/why-are-older-people-more-conservative

A good article for you to read from a source that I expect both of us would trust on the subject.

That attributes it to a decline in intellectual curiosity with age. Very disturbing.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

More like some people think they can make better decisions on how to manage their money than the government can.

No kidding, most of the guys I know who moved into the conservative column did so over financial concerns.

My dude becoming a party member of the party who needs to be saved from recessions doesn't make sense if that's their reasoning.

 

[Baztrachian]

That attributes it to a decline in intellectual curiosity with age. Very disturbing.

It's a consequence of getting older. Your priorities also shift as you get older.

People who have earned and saved money will vote according to their interests.

People who did not earn and save money will also vote according to their interests.

Both are functionally conservative even if they end up having opposing political views.

 

[Baztrachian]

My dude becoming a party member of the party who needs to be saved from recessions doesn't make sense if that's their reasoning.

Some day you'll be 65 and looking at retirement.

Maybe that year you'll need to choose between two candidates.

One supports policies that will cost you $1,000 per month in additional taxes which will go to support other people.

The other will support policies that will save you $1,000 per month by reducing your current taxes, allowing you to save even more money for retirement.

That's a $2,000 per month difference.

Are you altruistic enough to vote for more taxes to support other people at your expense or, facing imminent retirement, will you vote the way that makes your retirement more comfortable?

 

[ChinoMoreno]

Some day you'll be 65 and looking at retirement.

Maybe that year you'll need to choose between two candidates.

One supports policies that will cost you $1,000 per month in additional taxes which will go to support other people.

The other will support policies that will save you $1,000 per month by reducing your current taxes, allowing you to save even more money for retirement.

That's a $2,000 per month difference.

Are you altruistic enough to vote for more taxes to support other people at your expense or, facing imminent retirement, will you vote the way that makes your retirement more comfortable?

Bro not sure what your fantasy scenario is about but I'm sticking with the party that won't threaten to cut my Medicare when I'm 65.

 

[Politruk]

Some day you'll be 65 and looking at retirement.

Maybe that year you'll need to choose between two candidates.

One supports policies that will cost you $1,000 per month in additional taxes which will go to support other people.

The other will support policies that will save you $1,000 per month by reducing your current taxes, allowing you to save even more money for retirement.

That's a $2,000 per month difference.

Are you altruistic enough to vote for more taxes to support other people at your expense or, facing imminent retirement, will you vote the way that makes your retirement more comfortable?

The GOP does not even approve of Social Security and has seriously floated proposals to privatize the system. It is not a party to vote for if you're making retirement plans.

 

[Rightguide]

A majority of voters under 30 align with the Democrats; Republicans have the edge among those over 60.

This is not a stage-of-life thing -- people do not grow more conservative as they age. It is a generational-culture thing.

Except for real men.

 

[Politruk]

Except for real men.

Are those something like True Scotsmen?

There are no real men on the right, not even Chuck Norris.

 

[Rightguide]

Are those something like True Scotsmen?

The normal males who get everything done in America.

 

[Politruk]

The normal males who get everything done in America.

Looking around, it seems women get more done.

 

[Rightguide]

Looking around, it seems women get more done.

All they got done during the Biden years was the destruction of the country.