For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ll74]

In 2024 Putin widened 2020 meaning of what would be considered an existential threat:

Aggression against Russia or its ally Belarus using conventional weapons that create a critical threat to their sovereignty or territorial integrity.
Aggression by a non-nuclear state supported by a nuclear state, considered as a joint attack.
Massive aerospace attacks involving strategic and tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, or unmanned systems crossing Russia's borders.

But if you think that no amount of aggression by the West will bring us any harm, go right ahead and start banging that war drum. Perhaps you'd like to suit up and run over and help out.

Here's my challenge to you - reread this entire thread and tell me this same shit has not been brought up multiple times here.

You can't because you have done so multiple times.

 

[DanOkeffie]

James Comer: FBI Doc Alleges ‘Business Person from Ukraine’ Sent ‘Substantial Bribe’ to VP Biden​

WENDELL HUSEBØ7 Jun 2023

The FBI’s informant file of a $5 million bribery scheme allegedly linked to President Joe Biden concerns the family’s business deals in Ukraine, House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) revealed Monday.

In May, Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) made bombshell claims after reviewing an FBI FD-1023 form that documented the informant’s allegations of an alleged bribery scheme involving an exchange of money for policy decisions between now-President Joe Biden and a foreign national. Comer disclosed the informant tip is dated June 30, 2020.

“Yes, it is Ukraine,” Comer told The Just the News. “This form 1023 involves a business person from Ukraine, who allegedly sent a bribe, a substantial bribe to then Vice President Joe Biden.”

The Biden family frequently visited Ukraine for its respective business. Then-Vice President Joe Biden served as the Obama administration’s Ukrainian “point person” on U.S. foreign policy. He visited Ukraine six times while serving as vice president.

More here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...m-ukraine-sent-substantial-bribe-to-vp-biden/

I said long ago there is good reason to believe that Joe Biden has been compromised by Ukraine and other countries.

Biden's family comes from the Enron school of ethics. They are beyond criminal as they are just pure evil. I'm praying Trump puts that klan in prison or into a villa in Gaza and let Israel finish them

 

[Rightguide]

Here's my challenge to you - reread this entire thread and tell me this same shit has not been brought up multiple times here.

You can't because you have done so multiple times.

It's my thread. I don't need to re-read it, you do. Keep building your wall. Since dialogue requires two sides, and you’ve chosen a monologue, I'm walking around it.

 

[ll74]

It's my thread. I don't need to re-read it, you do. Keep building your wall. Since dialogue requires two sides, and you’ve chosen a monologue, I'm walking around it.

So you don't want to admit that you've been fucking doing this since the invasion of Ukraine.

Thanks for confirming.

I've been calling you out for it from the start of this thread as well.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[Rightguide]

So you don't want to admit that you've been fucking doing this since the invasion of Ukraine.

Thanks for confirming.

I've been calling you out for it from the start of this thread as well.

You haven’t called me out, you’ve repeated slogans. Through the entire Biden era, you clung to the official narrative like a lifeline, ignoring the obvious: Ukraine was never going to win this war. That was clear from the beginning, and now it’s being written in blood across the battlefield. But here’s the part you still won’t admit, while you were busy defending a doomed fantasy, the world inched closer to catastrophe. We’re not just watching a failed proxy war. We’re watching the prelude to something far worse. Keep pretending if you want, but we could be staring into the abyss of World War III.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1924607191819952529

 

[Baztrachian]

I doubt Putin will use nuclear weapons.

I doubt that Putin has nuclear weapons.

 

[Baztrachian]

Ukraine was never going to win this war.

Ukraine doesn't have to win the war. They need to stop Russia from winning the war and so far they're doing pretty fucking great in that regard.

 

[Baztrachian]

It looks like that Putin is preparing for war with NATO.

Russia is building up military forces near the border with Finland - constructing bases, bunkers, training grounds, and other military infrastructure in the area.

1/n pic.twitter.com/v3GUx4Zd50— Roman Sheremeta (@rshereme) May 19, 2025

The Finns refer to such things as 'kohde'.

 

[Rightguide]

Ukraine doesn't have to win the war. They need to stop Russia from winning the war and so far they're doing pretty fucking great in that regard.

The facts on the ground fail to support that.

 

[Baztrachian]

The facts on the ground fail to support that.

Remind when exactly the Russians seized Kyiv and Odessa?

 

[Rightguide]

Remind when exactly the Russians seized Kyiv and Odessa?

1654 and 1794 respectively. It may happen again in the near future

 

[Baztrachian]

1654 and 1794 respectively. It may happen again in the near future

If Russia was going to have conquered Ukraine then their window of opportunity to do so was in the first ten days of the SMO.

And they botched it. Badly.

Frigging logistics for that op were all for shit. The Russian Army expected to drive unopposed all the way to Poland and instead they got their asses SLAUGHTERED outside of Kyiv when they ran out of gas.

Now it's a war of attrition and Russia is losing which is evidenced by Putin having to buy North Korean, Chinese, and even Iranian mercenaries.

Plus Putin managed to piss off his BFF Donald Trump who sided with the Europeans in removing all of the restrictions on the Ukrainians for using Western weapons for long range attacks on Russian targets.

Give it a few days and I expect we'll see Ukrainian strikes on Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Those cocksuckers in Moscow deserve to suffer and I hope they do.

 

[ll74]

You haven’t called me out,

Truth

you’ve repeated slogans.

You actually have repeated slogans. I've repeated objective facts

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Through the entire Biden era, you clung to the official narrative like a lifeline, ignoring the obvious: Ukraine was never going to win this war. That was clear from the beginning, and now it’s being written in blood across the battlefield. But here’s the part you still won’t admit, while you were busy defending a doomed fantasy, the world inched closer to catastrophe. We’re not just watching a failed proxy war. We’re watching the prelude to something far worse. Keep pretending if you want, but we could be staring into the abyss of World War III.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1924607191819952529

We aren't doing anything. Except observing the reality of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

You have repeated Putin's talking points.

I have repeated objective facts of what is happening.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia has made no appreciable gains in the last 2 years. A field here, a field there. The ZSU is fighting reasonable intelligently, and trading ground for dead Russians. Yes, the ZSU makes mistakes, what Army doesn't, byt they are improving and gaining strength with every month. Their Brigades are being equipped and strengthened - BTR-4's for example, are equippig roughly another Brigade every two months. Leopards from Germany are trickling in, along with Marders. M113's - Canada handed ove around 100 that need rebuilding but Ukraine can handle that. Now 400 more M113's from Italy, and who knows what else. More F16's. More artillery. More battle taxis. The big gap is air defence against ballistic missles, but in the end those are terror weapons aimed largely at civilians, which does nothing to win the war for Putin - and in point of fact, better they hit civilian than military targets.

Ukraine is consistenty targeting Russian infrastructure as well as military targets. The drone line is gaining strength, there are ZSU reserve brigades equipping and training....the ZSU will launch some sort of counter offensive this summer, likely after Putin has drained his reserves dry in meat attacks....and then we will see. This war will go into 2026 for sure.

 

[ChloeTzang]

OMFG, he really DID say it. He openly ADMITTED to protecting Russia,

Beyond disgusting. Pure evil.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine...really-bad-things-during-ukraine-peace-talks/

 

[Lazaran]

OMFG, he really DID say it. He openly ADMITTED to protecting Russia,

Beyond disgusting. Pure evil.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine...really-bad-things-during-ukraine-peace-talks/
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THAT ^ is grounds for immediate impeachment, trial for treason, and public execution.

TRAITOR TRUMP.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Baztrachian]

THAT ^ is grounds for immediate impeachment, trial for treason, and public execution.

No, it isn't. He thought appeasing the Russians and their fucking dictator would bring an end to the war and he was dead fucking wrong and at least he seems to be coming around.

I don't know how it got into the collective American conservative mind that Ukraine, which was invaded by Russia and which wanted to be allied with the United States, was somehow an opponent of the United States.

I can't even tell you how many conservatives I know who have fallen for Russia's bullshit propaganda that Ukraine is a bunch of Nazis and that Russia is somehow re-enacting the end of World War Two.

I also can't even begin to say how much I hate the fucking Russians and their fucking prick dictator.

 

[Lazaran]

No, it isn't. He thought appeasing the Russians and their fucking dictator would bring an end to the war and he was dead fucking wrong and at least he seems to be coming around.

I don't know how it got into the collective American conservative mind that Ukraine, which was invaded by Russia and which wanted to be allied with the United States, was somehow an opponent of the United States.

I can't even tell you how many conservatives I know who have fallen for Russia's bullshit propaganda that Ukraine is a bunch of Nazis and that Russia is somehow re-enacting the end of World War Two.

I also can't even begin to say how much I hate the fucking Russians and their fucking prick dictator.

Um, “appeasement”usually happens BEFORE the war, NOT during it.



Also:

DonOld ADMITTED to giving aid & comfort to the ENEMY (yes, Russia IS the ENEMY).

And SOME of DonOld’s traitorous / treasonous actions occurred during PRESIDENT BIDEN’S ADMINISTRATION, like when DonOld ACTIVELY orchestrated the blocking of military aid to Ukraine FOR SIX MONTHS (sabotaged the war effort against Russia), during which time (and for a short time after), Russia made its greatest gains of the war.



Also:

EVERYTHING I post is intended to assign culpability to the MAGAts (etc) who voted for DonOld the traitor (or who didn’t vote for Kamala). The MAGAts (etc) are guilty of treason and crimes against humanity by extension / association. Those MAGAts (etc) are also culpable for the collapsing economy, the slow rolling constitutional crisis, and the damage to the environment resulting from DonOld’s FAILED presidency (presidencies).



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The Russian economy is on the brink of collapse and Putin knows it.

Putin's bloody war is economically unsustainable. Increasingly alarming signs of overheating indicate that the country is heading for economic collapse. Despite data that remains opaque we can see that sanctions have created preconditions for the collapse of the Russian economy. Russia's war economy is shrinking, inflation is rising, interest rates are reaching 21%, & 40% of gov spending is devoted to the army. Against the backdrop of falling global oil prices, Western sanctions & Ukrainian attacks, the Kremlin is urgently calling a meeting due to an alarming decline in the volume of oil product transportation within the country.

Russia lost 450 bln amid sanctions, technology shortages & oil prices. Trade between the EU & Russia has fallen by 74%, from €260 to €68 bln. Moscow may face the most serious challenge since the collapse of the USSR. Since the beginning of 2025, the rapid depletion of old oil fields has been recorded in Western Siberia, & new developments in the Eastern Siberia region are significantly complicated by natural conditions & lack of access to Western technologies. Moscow's budget deficit is expected to triple in 2025 compared to initial forecasts. Over 4 months, fees from oil & gas companies fell by 10%: However, expenses, a third of which this year is allocated for the war against Ukraine, increased by 20%. By the end of April, the budget had a deficit of 3.23 trillion rubles.

After years of resilience, as the war in Ukraine goes into a stalemate, the domestic situation in Russia enters into great uncertainty. The military parade’s shrinking size & internal struggles indicate deeper problems within the nation. Russia's economy is buckling under the financial weight of the war in Ukraine - despite the Kremlin's claims. A new report suggests Russia's claims of economic strength are "misleading", with the country in fact spiralling towards a banking crisis. Galloping inflation is at 10.3%, but it could be significantly underestimated by Rosstat. The Romir website measured thousands of prices, including food prices: their amount is double that displayed by the Russian Central Bank.

Russia's economy is in meltdown as mortgage defaults soar & banks face a 'credit crisis'. Russia's largest banks face a sharp rise in loan defaults. Businesses & consumers have been hit by a double whammy of high inflation and interest rates. Russia's Central Bank has been forced to raise the key interest rate to 21% - the highest level in 20 yrs. Russians are paying the price for Putin’s war through rising household costs, a weakening ruble, & inflation driven by relentless defence spending. A shortage of workers is one of Putin's biggest problems. 73% of companies are experiencing labor shortages. By 2030 the deficit could grow to 2.4 M people. Now the Kremlin is trying to plug the hole by bringing in workers from Africa & North Korea. The Russian car market faces a 50% drop in demand. The State Duma adopted a new bill: from March 1, 2026, carriers will be required to purchase cars produced exclusively by Russian automakers.

Putin's shadow fleet is more exposed than ever and its share of oil transport has fallen from over 60% to less than 40%. The newly adopted EU sanctions will also target third countries that help export Russia's oil massively & this is what Russia fears most. The US imposed heavy sanctions just before Biden left office, blocking the operations of oil companies Gazprom Neft & Surgutneftegaz. Russia’s largest shipping company Sovcomflot posted a loss of $393 million in Q1 of 2025. Sovcomflot linked the collapse in revenues to “unprecedented sanctions”. Russia has spent $14bln buying over 400 tankers for its shadow fleet, an armada that is now struggling to deliver exports around the world. Large-scale tanker sanctions in 2025 have helped significantly reduce Russia’s shadow fleet capacity, down some 46%.

Russia's largest maker of combine harvesters & tractors, Rostselmash, said that the demand for its machines has collapsed, farmers have no money to buy equipment. Rostselmash produced 70% of agricultural machinery; it will stop production in June. Russia is now unable to modernize its own energy infrastructure due to the war, the government has decided to postpone the implementation of 14 power plant modernization projects by 2–3 years. Russia now struggles to supply electricity to its own population. "Russian authorities did not have enough money to bury those killed in the war and pay the families of killed and wounded security forces. The State Duma was asked to add more than 700 million rubles for this in the 2025 budget," reports MO. Russians' pensions in Estonia and Bulgaria have been suspended without explanation. "Since February, Russia has failed to pay out pensions to around 4,000 Russian pensioners living in Estonia". Russian propagandists suggest canceling pensions, claiming elders should be supported by children they "gave birth to," otherwise they "should die."

Putin is already dipping into his reserves because of falling oil and natural gas revenues: "Russia to use reserves to cover growing budget deficit: Report."Forecasts suggest that Russia's budget deficit in 2025 could rise from 0.5% to 1.7% of GDP. Following Putin's refusal to accept a ceasefire, Europe is preparing to intensify sanctions & "strangle the Russian economy." The EU plans to disconnect more than 20 Russian banks from SWIFT and lower the oil price limit to $45. On May 26, 2025, Putin declared into the BOSCH microphone that the Russian foreign services should be strangled just as "they are trying to strangle us."
Recently EU foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas, called for the U.S to also take "strong action" against Russia. Underlining that the bloc is working on more sanctions on Russia: "The longer Russia wages war, the tougher our response." It's oil revenues that keep Russia's economy afloat. If oil prices fall permanently below $40 a barrel, Moscow will struggle to continue its war in Ukraine.

Contrary to what the Kremlin says, Russia needs peace because its economy could completely collapse in 2025.

And THIS is why Trump wants sanctions lifted and his trade deals with Putin - he has his instructions from the Kremlin. Just wait. He's going to blame Zelensky for no ceasefire and lift US sanctions on Russia. Except Lindsay GRaham may actually cut the treasonous asshole off at the knees.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukrainian Air Force getting stuck into Russian targets in Kursk........my, how thimgs are changing.....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927369247858020798

 

[Politruk]

The key to understanding the Russians is their history and their stated definition of what an "existential threat" is. Our leftist friends here simply don't get it. The list of brutal Russian victories is long: Golden Horde (Mongols), Sweden, Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, Napoleon’s France, Ottoman Empire, Persian Empire (Qajar Iran), Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan (in Manchuria), Hungarian Revolutionaries (1956), Czechoslovak Reformists (1968), Chechen Separatists, Georgian Military (2008), Crimean Khanate. They are an old-world people, with deep roots in an ancient battlefield. War is in their blood, fighting is not just a necessity, but a tradition. Losses are a lesser concern; they endure, absorb, and adapt. And when they retreat, it is rarely in defeat. Ask Napoleon at the gates of Moscow, or Hitler in the snows of Stalingrad, and they might whisper from the grave: "The chase was the easy part."

It is increasingly obvious you are Russian.

 

[Politruk]

Wishing too hard for Vladimir Putin’s removal without a clear understanding of who might replace him is a dangerous gamble, as several prominent figures waiting in the wings, such as Dmitry Medvedev, Igor Girkin, Ramzan Kadyrov, and Alexander Dugin, are not moderates but far more nationalistic, authoritarian, and openly warlike. While Putin is undeniably aggressive, his actions are often tempered by calculated strategic interests; by contrast, Medvedev now routinely calls for nuclear strikes, Girkin demands full mobilization and total war, Kadyrov advocates brutal repression and escalation, and Dugin envisions a messianic Russian empire in open conflict with the West. If Putin were suddenly removed without a managed transition, the resulting power vacuum could elevate these ultra-hawks, plunging Russia into even deeper militarism and heightening the risk of global instability. In this context, toppling Putin may not lead to peace or reform, but to something far more volatile. Wishes could have consequences.

And in the pay of Putin.

 

[Celand]

I doubt Putin will use nuclear weapons. It would give Emperor Xi effective permission (excuse) to stomp all over the Russian "colonies" in East Asia. Remember that in the last 80 years, France, UK, Portugal, Spain, USA, Netherlands and Germany have all given up their colonial possessions and treaty ports in Eastern Asia. Only one country has refused - Russia. Every Chinese government since Sun Yat Sen in 1912 has demanded their return. The reckoning of that account is overdue. It might be good strategic policy for the West particularly the USA to encourage Chinese ambitions in that region.

Russia is wssentially same for 500 + years. NO idea what " colonies" you are referring to?

Map: and changes since 16th century:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Growth_of_Russia_1547-1725_true_borders.png

 

[Celand]

It is increasingly obvious you are Russian.

in reference to Rightguide .....

Not necessary. He just knows history.