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"Abortion abolitionist" movement takes shape as god nuts seek to hurt women

Imagine nano technology makes it possible to program cells. One Day those wackos go see their docs and being told they are pregnant.
 
Saint_Ann said:
What is legal and/or acceptable varies over time. How many people had to die to eliminate slavery? :)
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Linking a person terminating their pregnancy (in the early embryonic stages anyway) to the practice of slavery is an intellectually dishonest argument- and you know it. Like it or not, this is a far more complex issue than you are willing to admit, because I sense that deep down, you realize it too.

NO, most people, including most women, do NOT approve of aborting a healthy 7-9 month old pregnancy. But these same people- and yes this is most people- likewise do NOT approve of the government forcing rape and incest victims to give birth, do NOT approve of laws treating women as little more than government owned breeding stock, do NOT approve of allowing a women with life-threatening pregnancy complications to die rather than have an abortion, or banning abortion at ALL stages of pregnancy- particularly the first trimester.

Because this is not about "Murder." It is not as simple as you would like it to be. Women are not cattle. They are not Breeding Stock. This is not a handmaid's tale society. If we all took the time to really understand the issue and get off our soap box we could understand this- and work together for reasonable laws- AND restrictions- concerning pregnancy. Putting people in jail for "Murder" because they terminated a six week embryo after being raped- that is NOT reasonable. And yes, you know this, and we all know it.
 
PaxNurgle said:
Linking a person terminating their pregnancy (in the early embryonic stages anyway) to the practice of slavery is an intellectually dishonest argument- and you know it. Like it or not, this is a far more complex issue than you are willing to admit, because I sense that deep down, you realize it too.

NO, most people, including most women, do NOT approve of aborting a healthy 7-9 month old pregnancy. But these same people- and yes this is most people- likewise do NOT approve of the government forcing rape and incest victims to give birth, do NOT approve of laws treating women as little more than government owned breeding stock, do NOT approve of allowing a women with life-threatening pregnancy complications to die rather than have an abortion, or banning abortion at ALL stages of pregnancy- particularly the first trimester.

Because this is not about "Murder." It is not as simple as you would like it to be. Women are not cattle. They are not Breeding Stock. This is not a handmaid's tale society. If we all took the time to really understand the issue and get off our soap box we could understand this- and work together for reasonable laws- AND restrictions- concerning pregnancy. Putting people in jail for "Murder" because they terminated a six week embryo after being raped- that is NOT reasonable. And yes, you know this, and we all know it.
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Abortion ends a human life. What society chooses to do about that can change over time. It already has. Anything else is a rationalization. :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
Abortion ends a human life. What society chooses to do about that can change over time. It already has. Anything else is a rationalization. :)
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THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! NO! It does not! That is preciecly the simplistic and dull-brained argument I was speaking out against (I'm guessing you either did not read my post, or if you did, you did not understand the point.). It ends a POTENTIAL human life, sure, but it's like saying that shattering a block of stone found in some quarry is equivalent to smashing an exquisite marble statue. And neither you, nor the government, has any right to tell other women what to do with their bodies. Other women are not your personal incubators or your personal breeding stock- nor are they the government's.

I mean, how far can we go with this? A woman who has a period ends a human life, by that same argument. That period could have been a fertilized embryo. Should we charge her with murder? Should we charge men with murder if they masterbate, because each sperm could potentially fertilize an egg? You see how ridiculous your argument is? Just THINK about it, critically, and logically. That is all we ask.
 
PaxNurgle said:
THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! NO! It does not! That is preciecly the simplistic and dull-brained argument I was speaking out against (I'm guessing you either did not read my post, or if you did, you did not understand the point.). It ends a POTENTIAL human life, sure, but it's like saying that shattering a block of stone found in some quarry is equivalent to smashing an exquisite marble statue. And neither you, nor the government, has any right to tell other women what to do with their bodies. Other women are not your personal incubators or your personal breeding stock- nor are they the government's.

I mean, how far can we go with this? A woman who has a period ends a human life, by that same argument. That period could have been a fertilized embryo. Should we charge her with murder? Should we charge men with murder if they masterbate, because each sperm could potentially fertilize an egg? You see how ridiculous your argument is? Just THINK about it, critically, and logically. That is all we ask.
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Ain't nobody changing anybody's mind here tonight. :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
Ain't nobody changing anybody's mind here tonight. :)
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Because you lack the ability to think logically and maturely about ANYTHING. You are completely irrational and illogical. Simple minds, full of simple minded malice.

Don't give me this "I care about unborn babies" crap. You clearly don't. You don't care about ANYONE, because your values are warped- it's clear in each and every post. It's only the principle of government stripping away peoples freedoms that gets your granny panties all wet. You'd watch a baby starve in his mother's arms or die of preventable illness and hunger and LIKE it, if said mother and child were the wrong nationality. You'd deny women and children health care because, "Less government" or whatever the fuck. You have no principles, except that the thought of government basically treating women like cattle seems to turn you on- because the government oppressing ANYBODY turns you on.
 
Have you heard about the no-frills abortion kit?

A hungry rat on a string! :)
 
One day soon, it will become public knowledge that the Great Supreme Glorious Leader (but not Pope) has paid for multiple abortions involving multiple women.

This will surprise nobody.
 
Bray123 said:
One day soon, it will become public knowledge that the Great Supreme Glorious Leader (but not Pope) has paid for multiple abortions involving multiple women.

This will surprise nobody.
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I'm sure he's caused a few abortions, but I doubt if he paid for them. He rarely if ever does pay his bills, after all.
 
PaxNurgle said:
Because you lack the ability to think logically and maturely about ANYTHING. You are completely irrational and illogical. Simple minds, full of simple minded malice.

Don't give me this "I care about unborn babies" crap. You clearly don't. You don't care about ANYONE, because your values are warped- it's clear in each and every post. It's only the principle of government stripping away peoples freedoms that gets your granny panties all wet. You'd watch a baby starve in his mother's arms or die of preventable illness and hunger and LIKE it, if said mother and child were the wrong nationality. You'd deny women and children health care because, "Less government" or whatever the fuck. You have no principles, except that the thought of government basically treating women like cattle seems to turn you on- because the government oppressing ANYBODY turns you on.
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It saddens me, the lack of respect some people have for the miracle of life. :)
 
ll74 said:
They're also alive.

Bonus - they're actually individual human beings
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If a million immigrants were being terminated every year, some fringe group would probably try to do something to stop it. Is that what you mean? :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
If a million immigrants were being terminated every year, some fringe group would probably try to do something to stop it. Is that what you mean? :)
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I would expect murder to get some attention, yes.
 
Saint_Ann said:
Heaven forbid a person would have beliefs. :)
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Beliefs are fun. Some people believe in unicorns and jesus.

I saw a movie once where ninja jesus slaughtered a bunch of unicorns because of satan . It was entertaining

Ever since then, I've lobbied the government to save all unicorns
 
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