Will Trump Suspend Habeas Corpus For Illegals?

[Politruk]

Illegal aliens do not have the same rights to due process that citizens do.

Legally, they do.

 

[LeahWill]

You're back again and dressed for the occasion, I see. Have you read post #1?

yep.
Just wanted to re-open lines of communication again
So I guess you would be in favour of Agent Orange, sorry Prez Trump suspending it?

Dance monkey, dance!

 

[Rightguide]

yep.
Just wanted to re-open lines of communication again
So I guess you would be in favour of Agent Orange, sorry Prez Trump suspending it?

Dance monkey, dance!

Agent Orange,” huh? How original, did you come up with that before or after reading it on a protest sign? It's always amusing when people outside the country feel entitled to lob cartoon insults at our president, as if Twitter snark counts as foreign policy insight. Surely there's plenty of political fertilizer to sort through in Great Britain, no?

 

[Mystories189]

I think we all stumbled on the core problems, that's that people have no idea that undocumented immigrants are NOT illegal. Even if they do not have legal status, which many do, they are not illegal under criminal law, just policy law. Them being here does not make them automatically criminals. And yes, due process is afforded to Everyone, not just citizens. As far as there being an invasion? Wtf? People seeking asylum and looking for a place to live are automatically invading? No. An invasion is if Trump decided to send troops in to Greenland to claim land. Immigration is not invasion by any stretch of the imagination. Any word I don't think you understand on top of due process and invasion, is gaslighting. Thats kind of when try to convince someone that something that happened, didn't happen or vice versa, not anything to do with the facts I presented. And as far as Biden and Obama deporting people, if you ckaim it's no different, then what was all this BS about them wanting open boarders, you can have it both ways. And yes, there is a huge difference in the way went about it. First of all, optics, they didn't make a show of it, inviting Dr Phil and publicizing every raid. Second of all, Trump is focusing on speed and force, making it very sloppy, going after the wrong people, detaining citizens, destroying property, etc. Third of all they didn't send droves of these people to unethical prisons where people are treated like cattle. Finally, and I can't stand this, stop making the "but it was done in the past" arguments for everything Trump does. Yes, at one point in history, someone dis something as bad as Trump, but if you do all the shifty things that people have done in the past, that makes you worse than the people who did the individual things.

 

[DeluxAuto]

as if Twitter snark counts as foreign policy insight.

Agent Orange uses Twitter to inform his staff of new policy. Why is your brain so dry and brittle?

 

[HisArpy]

I think we all stumbled on the core problems, that's that people have no idea that undocumented immigrants are NOT illegal. Even if they do not have legal status, which many do, they are not illegal under criminal law, just policy law. Them being here does not make them automatically criminals. And yes, due process is afforded to Everyone, not just citizens. As far as there being an invasion? Wtf? People seeking asylum and looking for a place to live are automatically invading? No. An invasion is if Trump decided to send troops in to Greenland to claim land. Immigration is not invasion by any stretch of the imagination. Any word I don't think you understand on top of due process and invasion, is gaslighting. Thats kind of when try to convince someone that something that happened, didn't happen or vice versa, not anything to do with the facts I presented. And as far as Biden and Obama deporting people, if you ckaim it's no different, then what was all this BS about them wanting open boarders, you can have it both ways. And yes, there is a huge difference in the way went about it. First of all, optics, they didn't make a show of it, inviting Dr Phil and publicizing every raid. Second of all, Trump is focusing on speed and force, making it very sloppy, going after the wrong people, detaining citizens, destroying property, etc. Third of all they didn't send droves of these people to unethical prisons where people are treated like cattle. Finally, and I can't stand this, stop making the "but it was done in the past" arguments for everything Trump does. Yes, at one point in history, someone dis something as bad as Trump, but if you do all the shifty things that people have done in the past, that makes you worse than the people who did the individual things.

^someone drank all the Kool Aid.

 

[Mystories189]

^someone drank all the Kool Aid.

Unfortunately, alot of people did

 

[DeluxAuto]

^someone drank all the Kool Aid.

If you were smart, you would have pointed how wrong his post was.

But you're not so you can't.

 

[icanhelp1]

I think we all stumbled on the core problems, that's that people have no idea that undocumented immigrants are NOT illegal. Even if they do not have legal status, which many do, they are not illegal under criminal law, just policy law. Them being here does not make them automatically criminals. And yes, due process is afforded to Everyone, not just citizens. As far as there being an invasion? Wtf? People seeking asylum and looking for a place to live are automatically invading? No. An invasion is if Trump decided to send troops in to Greenland to claim land. Immigration is not invasion by any stretch of the imagination. Any word I don't think you understand on top of due process and invasion, is gaslighting. Thats kind of when try to convince someone that something that happened, didn't happen or vice versa, not anything to do with the facts I presented. And as far as Biden and Obama deporting people, if you ckaim it's no different, then what was all this BS about them wanting open boarders, you can have it both ways. And yes, there is a huge difference in the way went about it. First of all, optics, they didn't make a show of it, inviting Dr Phil and publicizing every raid. Second of all, Trump is focusing on speed and force, making it very sloppy, going after the wrong people, detaining citizens, destroying property, etc. Third of all they didn't send droves of these people to unethical prisons where people are treated like cattle. Finally, and I can't stand this, stop making the "but it was done in the past" arguments for everything Trump does. Yes, at one point in history, someone dis something as bad as Trump, but if you do all the shifty things that people have done in the past, that makes you worse than the people who did the individual things.

Under federal law, people who enter or re-enter the U.S. without authorization are subject not only to civil immigration detention and deportation proceedings but also criminal sanctions. The deportation proceedings is due process. Biden didn't follow immigration law. Migrants crossing our border illegally should be held in detention till their immigration status is adjudicated. Biden should be in prison for failure to protect our borders. I don't blame migrants for pursuing a better life, I blame Biden for failing to uphold the law.

 

[ll74]

Under federal law, people who enter or re-enter the U.S. without authorization are subject not only to civil immigration detention and deportation proceedings but also criminal sanctions. The deportation proceedings is due process. Biden didn't follow immigration law. Migrants crossing our illegally border should be held in detention till their immigration status is adjudicated. Biden should be in prison for failure to protect our borders. I don't blame migrants for pursuing a better life, I blame Biden for failing to uphold the law.

His authority allows parole.
At worst, he abused that power, but it was all lawful.

 

[Politruk]

Under federal law, people who enter or re-enter the U.S. without authorization are subject not only to civil immigration detention and deportation proceedings but also criminal sanctions.

It's a misdemeanor.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I blame Biden for failing to uphold the law

Who do you blame for the millions who have entered illegally since the border was created?

You're a very small minded MAGAT, traitor.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Why isn't the felon deporting illegals *in record numbers that no one has ever seen before?*

 

[Mystories189]

Under federal law, people who enter or re-enter the U.S. without authorization are subject not only to civil immigration detention and deportation proceedings but also criminal sanctions. The deportation proceedings is due process. Biden didn't follow immigration law. Migrants crossing our border illegally should be held in detention till their immigration status is adjudicated. Biden should be in prison for failure to protect our borders. I don't blame migrants for pursuing a better life, I blame Biden for failing to uphold the law.

I'd love to hear how Biden "failed to protect our borders" when the above claimed that he also deported people without seeing a judge. Also, again, I agree that those illegally crossing our boarders around be held in detention and have deportation proceedings, but that's not what's happening here at all. Actually, people with visas have been deported and citizens have been detained. Even vacationers have been detained unfairly. So that, other countries have issued travel advisories. And no, undocumented immigrants have not automatically boken criminal law. That's absolutely false. Between calling Biden and undocumented immigrants criminals and defending the only president who has been convicted as a felony and should have had more, you seem to have a very warped view of US law.

 

[icanhelp1]

It's a misdemeanor.

In federal court a misdemeanor is a *CRIMINAL OFFENSE* carrying no more than one year's imprisonment.

 

[icanhelp1]

Who do you blame for the millions who have entered illegally since the border was created?

You're a very small minded MAGAT, traitor.

Who do you blame?

 

[Rebel5soul]

May 12, 2025

Will Trump Suspend Habeas Corpus for Illegals?​

By Paul Dowling

Will Americans soon witness President Trump’s issuance of an executive order suspending habeas corpus for criminal aliens and American enemies who have participated in an invasion against the United States, and who have chosen to remain in our country against the rule of law?

The writ of habeas corpus goes back to 500 B.C. and is a legal action which allows a prisoner to challenge the authority of the jailer to continue holding him. The legal term habeas corpus literally means “you should have the body” in Latin. This legal privilege allows incarcerated citizens to seek relief from unlawful confinement as outlined in the Suspension Clause of the U.S. Constitution: “The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”

The privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus has been suspended four times: in areas that were in rebellion during the American Civil War; in eleven South Carolina counties that were under threat by the Ku Klux Klan during Reconstruction; in two provinces of the Philippines during an insurrection in 1905 when the Philippines were a U.S. territory; and in Hawaii subsequent to the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Empire of Japan.

In suspending the writ, Trump would be following in the footsteps of Abe Lincoln, who suspended habeas corpus as a war power to protect the Union when the public safety required it. And today’s criminal interference by judges -- who seek to prevent arrests and deportations of criminally-present terrorists, murderers, sex-traffickers, and rapists -- requires that Trump consider suspending the writ for those enemy aliens to whom lawless judges are giving aid and comfort. This would involve a proper invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, declaring an unlawful invasion of our country (as facilitated by a treasonous Biden Administration) and empowering the Department of Defense to make arrests of the invaders.

Much more here: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/05/will_trump_suspend_habeas_corpus_for_illegals.html

Criminal Federal District Court Judges acting unconstitutionally in directing the Article II powers of the elected President could be a justification in the defense of the nation against this Biden-directed foreign invasion.

One can only hope he does.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Who do you blame?

You're a traitor and a coward. Get deported, fuckwad.

One can only hope he does.

On what grounds, specifically?

 

[icanhelp1]

I'd love to hear how Biden "failed to protect our borders" when the above claimed that he also deported people without seeing a judge. Also, again, I agree that those illegally crossing our boarders around be held in detention and have deportation proceedings, but that's not what's happening here at all. Actually, people with visas have been deported and citizens have been detained. Even vacationers have been detained unfairly. So that, other countries have issued travel advisories. And no, undocumented immigrants have not automatically boken criminal law. That's absolutely false. Between calling Biden and undocumented immigrants criminals and defending the only president who has been convicted as a felony and should have had more, you seem to have a very warped view of US law.

The fact that you hang your hat on a sham NY trial is indicative of you lacking understanding of criminal law. The felony convictions are fraught with reversible errors and due process violations which will be overturned by the appellate process or the supreme court. Enjoy your short term win. In the mean time Trump is president.

 

[icanhelp1]

You're a traitor and a coward. Get deported, fuckwad.

On what grounds, specifically?

Your ignorance is remarkable but not surprising.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Your ignorance is remarkable but not surprising.

You not being able to competently point out where I'm wrong is why you're a piece of shit traitor.

 

[Mystories189]

The fact that you hang your hat on a sham NY trial is indicative of you lacking understanding of criminal law. The felony convictions are fraught with reversible errors and due process violations which will be overturned by the appellate process or the supreme court. Enjoy your short term win. In the mean time Trump is president.

You people don't get it. It's not "a win." What team wins or who anyone plays for makes no difference to me. The trials were what he deserved and should have been a warning to the country. Now, the markets have been set back, our alliances are weaker, people's lives are being destroyed, and this criminal is making out like a bandit, free jet and all. Are you proud that Greenland and Canada looks at us like the weird kid asking to go steady? Are you proud of making up new names for bodies of water? Are you proud of the incompetence in the cabinet like RJK Jr who knows nothing about health or science? Or Pete Hegseth scrubbing everything about minorities or homosexual in the military. Convicting Trump was about preventing a criminal from destroying our country. But people are either too racist to resist or too stupid to see it. Oh well, I guess I'll continue to sit back and laugh at this spoof of a movie.

 

[Politruk]

I don't blame migrants for pursuing a better life, I blame Biden for failing to uphold the law.

I blame whoever is responsible for the law's existence, which mostly means rank-and-file Republican voters, who scuttled W's immigration-reform bill in 2007.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The fact that you hang your hat on a sham NY trial is indicative of you lacking understanding of criminal law. The felony convictions are fraught with reversible errors and due process violations which will be overturned by the appellate process or the supreme court. Enjoy your short term win. In the mean time Trump is president.

It’s odd that Trump’s highly paid attorneys never pointed any of that out at trial.

 

[PaxNurgle]

There was an invasion, and the public safety and national security require it.

Oh REALLY? An invasion, huh?

Funny, I must have missed that.

Did armored personnel carriers crash through the border loaded with paramilitary units? Did the Mexican Army deploy paratroopers in Nueva Laredo and Nogales? Did Mexican tanks storm the checkpoints at Tijuana? Did amphibious landing craft full of Mexican marines cross the Rio Grande and storm American troop emplacements and military installations? Did rows upon rows of marching Mexican infantry, flanked by cavalry and armored divisions, make an armed incursion into Texas?

Does everyone else BUT you realize how stupid, paranoid, and ridiculous you sound?

Yes, there are some undocumented Mexican nationals who have crossed into the US without legal documentation. Mostly women, children and men seeking work, food, shelter and economic opportunity. Maybe one out of ten thousand is a bad guy. Do they all deserve due process under the law? YES. This is America- like it or not. Not the USSR.