Why have Republicans stopped bragging about the stock market?

[tinta]

No Trump Slump: Bullish S&P Posts Best Stretch In Over 20 Years

 

[Lazaran]

No Trump Slump: Bullish S&P Posts Best Stretch In Over 20 Years

NEVER have the markets been MOAR detached from reality.







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[Fuzzy1975]

NEVER have the markets been MOAR detached from reality.







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My broker moved a lot of my stocks around slowly, to avoid looking like a sell off. I've move a lot out of US capital,to the EU markets. Which keeps the money invested, and doesn't cause a run on banks etc. I still have a good percentage in the TSE, of American stocks, but that is slowly moving around.

Brokers are worried, a big run could tank the market to a point not seen since the 1930's.

There is also a lot of hope, since this market decrease is 100% artificial,created by one man.It's not a "bear" driven market. A simple signature could reverse the trend, which is why the market is doing the bouncing.Everyone wants to be able to capitalise if Trump kills his tariffs...

 

[LLCox]

trump is the typical right wing PB poster. Always "weaving" when he should just STFU.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-blamed-biden-stock-market-reaction-liberation-day-gains-2025-5

 

[Lazaran]

My broker moved a lot of my stocks around slowly, to avoid looking like a sell off. I've move a lot out of US capital,to the EU markets. Which keeps the money invested, and doesn't cause a run on banks etc. I still have a good percentage in the TSE, of American stocks, but that is slowly moving around.

Brokers are worried, a big run could tank the market to a point not seen since the 1930's.

There is also a lot of hope, since this market decrease is 100% artificial,created by one man.It's not a "bear" driven market. A simple signature could reverse the trend, which is why the market is doing the bouncing.Everyone wants to be able to capitalise if Trump kills his tariffs...

I would disagree with the final part:

There are serious issues with fundamentals - which DonOld has exacerbated - that no swipe of the sharpie can undo.



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[Fuzzy1975]

I would disagree with the final part:

You can.

There are serious issues with fundamentals -

List the fundamental issues please. I'll see if they line up with what I've been advised.

 

[Lazaran]

You can.

List the fundamental issues please. I'll see if they line up with what I've been advised.

I stole this off “Quora” because I didn’t want to type it out:


Fundamentals usually refers to factors that affect the country’s economy. These factors are:

1. GDP Growth
   A country with strong economic fundamentals is expected to grow. This growth is usually measured by the GDP growth. GDP stands for the Gross Domestic Product of a country and it is an estimate of the value of goods produced by the country in a year. The idea is that if the value of goods keep growing, the country has strong fundamentals.
2. Inflation
   At the same time, a country may experience inflation of prices due to monetary policy and overheating of the economy. If inflation is higher than the GDP growth, it shows that the real growth is actually negative. So it is crucial that a country maintains low inflation while growing.
3. Employment
   Likewise, a healthy economy should have almost full employment. Full employment implies that the demand for labour is high and thus the economy is likely chugging along at full capacity.
4. Trade
   A country that has good fundamentals would also have strong trade surplus. Trade surplus means that the country is producing valuable products that can be exported overseas.

There are many more factors that can be used to assess if the fundamentals of a country’s economy is weak or strong. But the four factors above are the basics. So a country is said to have strong fundamentals if its’ GDP is growing, its’ inflation is low, it has low unemployment and it has a trade surplus.



You can decide which of those “fundamentals” are an issue right now.

I see all of them as being an issue right now.

GDP??? An issue.

Trade??? An issue.

Inflation??? An issue.

Employment??? An issue.

Everything else??? An issue.

And DonOld’s policies are exacerbating the negative trajectories of those issues.

I would love to hear what you have been advised. I see red lights blinking on every issue from my vantage point (reading economic reports / prognostications from reliable sources).

YMMV





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[ll74]

It took exactly a month for the S&P 500 $SPY to round-trip its 14.7% post-Liberation Day crash:View attachment 2534845

So Trunp tanked the S&P and so now we're discussing how awesome it has recovered from Trump's damage?

 

[MajorRewrite]

So Trunp tanked the S&P and so now we're discussing how awesome it has recovered from Trump's damage?

And only the April damage has been recovered, not the earlier drop. Celebrate good times!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

As a long term investor since graduating from college and beginning my career in the early 1980s, I’ll weigh in on this thread with a simple piece of advice for the younger members of this board who hope to live comfortably in retirement. Don’t pay attention to politicians, journalists, or investment advisors who pontificate on short term market swings.

Consider your time horizon and your risk tolerance, and balance your investment portfolio among different asset categories that align with those two things.



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[Fuzzy1975]

I stole this off “Quora” because I didn’t want to type it out:

no worries.

Fundamentals usually refers to factors that affect the country’s economy. These factors are:

1. GDP Growth
   A country with strong economic fundamentals is expected to grow. This growth is usually measured by the GDP growth. GDP stands for the Gross Domestic Product of a country and it is an estimate of the value of goods produced by the country in a year. The idea is that if the value of goods keep growing, the country has strong fundamentals.

GDP is shrinking directly because of tariffs.

1. Inflation
   At the same time, a country may experience inflation of prices due to monetary policy and overheating of the economy. If inflation is higher than the GDP growth, it shows that the real growth is actually negative. So it is crucial that a country maintains low inflation while growing.

Inflation was coming down, but tariffs are a regressive tax, driving up prices.

1. Employment
   Likewise, a healthy economy should have almost full employment. Full employment implies that the demand for labour is high and thus the economy is likely chugging along at full capacity.

Well you got me on this one, since the tariffs are only partially responsible. DOGE and Trump's arrogance and hostility are all combined on this issue...

1. Trade
   A country that has good fundamentals would also have strong trade surplus. Trade surplus means that the country is producing valuable products that can be exported overseas.

Duh......Tariffs.....

All of which disappear with Trump reversing course.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

As a long term investor since graduating from college and beginning my career in the early 1980s, I’ll weigh in on this thread with a simple piece of advice for the younger members of this board who hope to live comfortably in retirement. Don’t pay attention to politicians, journalists, or investment advisors who pontificate on short term market swings.

Which are fine and dandy if you're expecting to reap the rewards of your investments 30 years down the road. For those who's income relies on current value market withdraws ( like boomers are, and they make up a significant portion of the market) from their investments, they are losing money, hand over foot because of Trump's fucked up economic policy.

Consider your time horizon and your risk tolerance, and balance your investment portfolio among different asset categories that align with those two things.

Boomers held 78.5 Trillion in the market, the next group is Gen X at 38.5 Trillion....guess who's getting fucked? Hint look at your screen name...

 

[ll74]

And only the April damage has been recovered, not the earlier drop. Celebrate good times!

Correct

 

[Lazaran]

no worries.

GDP is shrinking directly because of tariffs.

Inflation was coming down, but tariffs are a regressive tax, driving up prices.

Well you got me on this one, since the tariffs are only partially responsible. DOGE and Trump's arrogance and hostility are all combined on this issue...

Duh......Tariffs.....

All of which disappear with Trump reversing course.

“disappear”???

Um, nope.

Some of the potential ULTIMATE damage mitigated??? Maybe / possibly.

Turning or stopping a massive out-of-control ship that is heading for the rocks immediately upon the occurrence / happenstance of SOME control being restored is an uncertain proposition…at best.

YMMV



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[Fuzzy1975]

“disappear”???

Hypothetically speaking, Trump drops dead tomorrow, Vance takes over and is impeached by the republicans who fear getting eliminated in the midterms now that Trump is no longer. What would the markets do? What would the G7 countries do? What would happen to the gut of the Government?....

Can you really state the market wouldn't rebound?

Change it from Trump dying, to Trump reversing course, what would the market do then?

 

[Lazaran]

Hypothetically speaking, Trump drops dead tomorrow, Vance takes over and is impeached by the republicans who fear getting eliminated in the midterms now that Trump is no longer. What would the markets do? What would the G7 countries do? What would happen to the gut of the Government?....

Can you really state the market wouldn't rebound?

Change it from Trump dying, to Trump reversing course, what would the market do then?

I’m not going there.

I’m standing by my previous comments that are based on the current (and expected / predicted future) realities of the totality of the U.S. economy (and the global economy).



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[Fuzzy1975]

I’m not going there.

I’m standing by my previous comments that are based on the current (and expected / predicted future) realities of the totality of the U.S. economy (and the global economy).

Fair enough.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Get the name right, cocksucker.

Jawohl, Jeff Ben Zonah!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Which are fine and dandy if you're expecting to reap the rewards of your investments 30 years down the road. For those who's income relies on current value market withdraws ( like boomers are, and they make up a significant portion of the market) from their investments, they are losing money, hand over foot because of Trump's fucked up economic policy.

Boomers held 78.5 Trillion in the market, the next group is Gen X at 38.5 Trillion....guess who's getting fucked? Hint look at your screen name...

As a boomer who has lived through more than a few “once in a lifetime” market downturns, here’s a bit more advice the youngsters can take or ignore:

Rebalance your portfolio to fit your time horizon and risk tolerance. If you plan to be working for 20 years or more, lean into equities. If you’re ten years away from tapping your portfolio, you need to be adding weight to fixed income investments. Diversification within asset categories matters too.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

As a boomer who has lived through more than a few “once in a lifetime” market downturns, here’s a bit more advice the youngsters can take or ignore:

This isn't about youngsters, it's about those who are currently dependant upon cashing in investments...quit goal posting that fact.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

This isn't about youngsters, it's about those who are currently dependant upon cashing in investments...quit goal posting that fact.

It’s never a good idea to keep 100% of your investment portfolio in stocks unless you don’t need to touch it for a long time. Allocate a portion in liquid fixed income securities such as bonds, CDs or fixed income funds to meet your current income needs. A laddered maturity approach is a common recommendation of personal financial planners. That way you won’t sweat the ups and downs of the stock market.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It’s never a good idea to keep 100% of your investment portfolio in stocks unless you don’t need to touch it for a long time. Allocate a portion in liquid fixed income securities such as bonds, CDs or fixed income funds to meet your current income needs. A laddered maturity approach is a common recommendation of personal financial planners. That way you won’t sweat the ups and downs of the stock market.

So again you move the goal posts.....

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

So again you move the goal posts.....

Nope. You don’t understand role of risk tolerance and time horizons.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Nope. You don’t understand role of risk tolerance and time horizons.

lol, Trump crashed the market, and you talk about investing advice.fuck off moron.

 

[Lazaran]

lol, Trump crashed the market, and you talk about investing advice.fuck off moron.

Gaslighting is BabyBoobs forte.

Suggesting that America has been in this situation before, or faced the challenges / crises that DonOld has created, is pure gas.

BabyBoobs

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