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[Bramblethorn]

Everybody who keeps saying "The banner ads!": Find a nude image in them.

( I have come across one with bare breasts, and a couple of questionable butts/bodypainting, but to say it's rare is an overstatement. )

99.99% of the images in the banner ads comply with this new policy, and are in line with what gets approved for series covers/header images. I suspect the ones that don't are probably in violation of the cam site's headshot policy and won't last long. There would be nudes everywhere if they weren't restricted from doing so.

Not arguing this is a good idea, but trying to use the banner ads as an example just doesn't work. They're overwhelmingly in compliance.

I guess these (all from Lit webcam ads) aren't technically "nude":


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For legal purposes that might be an important technicality. But if the rationale for the policy change is that "Many Literotica readers (and authors) ...visit the site on their phones and would prefer not to have NSFWs images on the screen while someone else is looking over their shoulder", then surely these and others like them are going to create the same problem. If you're close enough to see that the lady in #1 isn't fully nude, you're close enough to see that I'm reading an erotica site.

If I'm snarky, readers who want the Literotica experience to be like it was 25 years ago - the other half of Manu's rationale - probably shouldn't be browsing on their phones in the first place. But maybe that's not an entirely fair line of argument. "I want some things to change but not others" can be a defensible position, but it needs some justification for why we should cater to this change and not that one.

 

[ElectricBlue]

If I'm snarky, readers who want the Literotica experience to be like it was 25 years ago - the other half of Manu's rationale - probably shouldn't be browsing on their phones in the first place. But maybe that's not an entirely fair line of argument. "I want some things to change but not others" can be a defensible position, but it needs some justification for why we should cater to this change and not that one.

The justification for the change is so lame. If people are so worried about being seen reading their smut in public, read in private. Seems to me that we're all being being punished because one or two readers can't exercise their own self-control. Or can't turn their phone the other way. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen in a very long time.

 

[AnomalyLady]

I’m confused. Where is nudity banned on Lit? Why is nudity banned? What defines nudity- nipples and balls?? What are the new rules?

 

[NuclearFairy]

There are a few safe for work stories on here that I do read, in the living room, while everyone else is watching TV. But, I always make sure to close the banner add while in my bedroom before joining them.

 

[Voboy]

I’m confused. Where is nudity banned on Lit? Why is nudity banned? What defines nudity- nipples and balls?? What are the new rules?

Nobody really knows, DAVE.

In the absence of hard information, a number of us are filling in the blanks. Wrongly, I assume, but who can say?

 

[AnomalyLady]

Nobody really knows, DAVE.

In the absence of hard information, a number of us are filling in the blanks. Wrongly, I assume, but who can say?

So I’m going to just live my Lit life confused? Pshh, ok. Thank you for calling me DAVE.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

The justification for the change is so lame. If people are so worried about being seen reading their smut in public, read in private. Seems to me that we're all being being punished because one or two readers can't exercise their own self-control. Or can't turn their phone the other way. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen in a very long time.

Hah! This is history in the making.

 

[Voboy]

So I’m going to just live my Lit life confused? Pshh, ok. Thank you for calling me DAVE.

It's one of those times when we all just have to hang out and wait.

To modify a phrase people used to use when I was in the Army, "Manu and Laurel are fucking this chicken. We're just holding the head."

 

[AnomalyLady]

It's one of those times when we all just have to hang out and wait.

To modify a phrase people used to use when I was in the Army, "Manu and Laurel are fucking this chicken. We're just holding the head."

I couldn’t read anything you said you were in the Army. I forgive you, your fault.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I’m confused. Where is nudity banned on Lit? Why is nudity banned? What defines nudity- nipples and balls?? What are the new rules?

The current/old "rules" can be found here: https://www.literotica.com/faq/forum/forum-rules

• You may not post any content prohibited under our sitewide Content Guidelines in the forum.
• You may not post any hardcore photos as defined in our Forum Photo Posting FAQ in the forum.
• Do not upload any copyright protected images, text, audio, or video. If you did not create a photo or other work, you probably do not have the legal right to post it on the forum.

The content guidelines include a ban on "Visual representations (photographs or video) of any real person engaged in “actual sexually explicit conduct” as defined by 18 U.S.C. 2257."

Forum photo FAQ :

• Legally, we can allow soft nudity, but under current United States law, photographs (does not apply to non-photographic images) posted on this site may not contain “sexually explicit conduct”, which the government defines as:
• Actual or simulated:

1. sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
2. bestiality;
3. masturbation;
4. sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
5. lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person.

• Per the above, we do not allow the posting of hardcore, dick pics, vagina closeups, sex toys being used, etc.

[plus points about age, consent, advertising and copyright that aren't relevant to your question]

I put "rules" in scare quotes because there are many, many threads in various forums which are full of exactly the kind of content that's supposed to be against these rules.

If photos are considered to be a problem here, I do think it'd be better to start by enforcing the existing rules and then see whether there's still a problem, before adding new rules.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

"Manu and Laurel are fucking this chicken. We're just holding the head."

So now you want to take down the rules against bestiality as well? Quite the rebel, eh?!

 

[AwkwardlySet]

You know, looking at all the reactions to this impending change, I am beginning to feel like Bart Simpson in that episode when a guru shows up in Springfield and tells everyone to embrace their inner child and act more like Bart.

 

[Voboy]

So now you want to take down the rules against bestiality as well? Quite the rebel, eh?!

It's not the fight we want, but it's the fight we've got I suppose.

 

[AG31]

The crusade against adult sites by moral monitors threatening hosts and legislatures making unmanageable age-verification laws probably has as much to do with it as anything. Getting rid of images manages a whole lot of risk for very little downside.

suspect you're right, but it's would be nice to see a clear statement saying if that's the case.

Yes, I suspect RejectReality is right, and short of turning back time I would like to see the Lit admins follow ElectricBlue's thought that simply stating the truth would be salutary.

 

[AG31]

Seems to me that we're all being being punished because one or two readers can't exercise their own self-control.

I'm afraid we're being punished because the culture wars out IRL have shifted to repression. The Lit owners have got to protect themselves from lawsuits.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

This is kinda bullshit to me. As far as looking at this shit at work, or somewhere you "shouldn't be"; don't, or be better at hiding it. Every picture uploaded in this thread is blurred, and that's not a setting I set, so that should be good enough option one could set. There's already one to hide avatars and signatures.

Also I had no clue we had banners.

 

[SimonDoom]

The justification for the change is so lame. If people are so worried about being seen reading their smut in public, read in private. Seems to me that we're all being being punished because one or two readers can't exercise their own self-control. Or can't turn their phone the other way. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen in a very long time.

This is what bugs me. I'm being told "We received positive feedback about this," and nobody asked me for my feedback. Apparently some people's feedback matters more than others, and I suspect this is a minority, not the majority. But we don't know, because the site doesn't give us enough information to know.

I feel the same way about this that I do about the proposal to eliminate all anonymous comments. The proposal punishes everybody unnecessarily when there's a more sensible alternative: if you don't like anonymous comments, delete them. If you don't want nude pictures showing up on your phone, then don't look at Literotica when you are in public, or be careful when parts of Literotica you visit. I sometimes look at Literotica when I'm in public and I find it extremely easy to navigate away from the parts of it that typically present a risk of images I don't want people to see.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'm afraid we're being punished because the culture wars out IRL have shifted to repression. The Lit owners have got to protect themselves from lawsuits.

What lawsuits? Who's going to sue them, and for what? This isn't a risk that should be taken seriously unless it's carefully thought through, and the risk intelligently appraised. I don't get the sense this is being done.

Literotica is based in the Western USA, within the boundaries of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, the most liberal federal circuit in the US. It's extremely unlikely that Literotica, which has gotten away with doing what it does for 25 years, faces lawsuits or criminal prosecution for its content when you can find even more explicit content for free on X.com and a gazillion other freely accessible websites.

 

[RejectReality]

What lawsuits? Who's going to sue them, and for what? This isn't a risk that should be taken seriously unless it's carefully thought through, and the risk intelligently appraised. I don't get the sense this is being done.

Literotica is based in the Western USA, within the boundaries of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, the most liberal federal circuit in the US. It's extremely unlikely that Literotica, which has gotten away with doing what it does for 25 years, faces lawsuits or criminal prosecution for its content when you can find even more explicit content for free on X.com and a gazillion other freely accessible websites.

There wasn't any government agency involved in attacking SOL. They went after his host, who caved, forcing him to switch hosts on a tight timetable. They found out who the new host was in about a week, and the process repeated.

Doesn't matter what circuit you're in when they threaten to expose the host for enabling the distribution of such filth.

 

[SimonDoom]

There wasn't any government agency involved in attacking SOL. They went after his host, who caved, forcing him to switch hosts on a tight timetable. They found out who the new host was in about a week, and the process repeated.

Doesn't matter what circuit you're in when they threaten to expose the host for enabling the distribution of such filth.

But wasn't the issue with SOL underage content?

The visual content at literotica is tame compared to what can be found on countless websites. It's no more explicit than x.com. this doesn't seem like a real threat to me, unless the site knows things it is not telling us.

 

[RejectReality]

But wasn't the issue with SOL underage content?

The visual content at literotica is tame compared to what can be found on countless websites. It's no more explicit than x.com. this doesn't seem like a real threat to me, unless the site knows things it is not telling us.

Like I said earlier, getting rid of nude images eliminates a huge source of potential problems, at an insignificant cost. It doesn't matter if there's any actual direct threat to them. They undoubtedly know it's happened to more than one erotica site recently. They're also big enough to run afoul of jurisdictions putting draconian age-verification laws in place. No sense waiting around to do it in a flurry of panic when you can phase it out and lose next to nothing.

Throw genuine complaints about NSFW images on a text porn site and moderators screaming from the rafters to nuke all the image threads ( never realizing that they'd end up nuking their own forum section in the process LOL ) and it all just piles up in a hurry.

The trouble vs. value equation just doesn't balance.

 

[lovecraft68]

Like I said earlier, getting rid of nude images eliminates a huge source of potential problems, at an insignificant cost. It doesn't matter if there's any actual direct threat to them. They undoubtedly know it's happened to more than one erotica site recently. They're also big enough to run afoul of jurisdictions putting draconian age-verification laws in place. No sense waiting around to do it in a flurry of panic when you can phase it out and lose next to nothing.

Throw genuine complaints about NSFW images on a text porn site and moderators screaming from the rafters to nuke all the image threads ( never realizing that they'd end up nuking their own forum section in the process LOL ) and it all just piles up in a hurry.

The trouble vs. value equation just doesn't balance.

I've been warning for a long time that revenge porn and proof of permission is going to hit this site hard some day and no one wants to hear it.

Even when porn hub and other sites started removing tons of content unless the person was willing to go through some extra steps to verify who they were, it was seen as a joke here. '

Most of the porn clips and pictures of pro porn stars are most likely not here with permission, but they've been put out there already and at this point could be seen as advertising.

But these am pic threads and a lot of threads seen in forums are obviously from creeper accounts, ex boyfriends or even current partners who want to show off their wife and GF who has no idea they're being plastered all over the internet. My long time theory is half the women posting pics in am pics aren't them, but their partner or an ex. Do you know the KC Cummings story? Ask me and I'll tell you, but I won't do it in a public post, but it says a lot about how things go here, or did.

On lit-or any sites-end, how can you really prove this? Probably can't so maybe its time to realize this isn't the wild west anymore and be proactive.

Draconian describes the "who cares is some woman was posted sucking cock without her permission"

This is why Only Fans works, or sites like Clips 4 sale or any other creator only content, they have proof that this is the person in the account.

As for Jafo, no one who knew him could believe he was made a mod, and his insults, bullying and abusing his power is a perfect case of being as advertised. No one knew what the site was thinking then with him and we never will.

 

[THROBBS]

This might explain why the Illustrated page hasn't been updated in a month exactly. It's possible no one submitted anything, but maybe they're being turned down.

The Illustrations page (illustrations only) has stagnated since April 14.
I have 4 images that have been queued up. Prior to that, images have been posted quite regularly - every day or two.

The illustrated STORIES have always had a bit of a lag; a few weeks maybe. Which makes sense as there is text to review as well as images. I am sure it has come to a halt during this policy process.

 

[THROBBS]

I believe this applies to photographic images, not drawings.

That WAS the policy. The new policy includes drawings.

 

[THROBBS]

I take back what I said about Illustrated works not being posted. Comics / Adult Art are still being posted in their respective catagories.

https://www.literotica.com/beta/c/adult-comics

April 14, 2025 is last date any new works have been posted.

It was quite regular 1-2 days, pior to that. I have had 4 queued up for weeks now.