The 2nd amendment DOES NOT mean you have a right to own an AR-15

[JohnEngelman]

The 2nd amendment DOES NOT protect your right to own an AR-15.

These are extremely dangerous military-style weapons that ONLY THE MILITARY should have access to!

The First Amendment could be used to protect the private ownership of flame throwers and hand grenades. The First Amendment is a dangerous anachronism.

 

[KingDJT]

The First Amendment could be used to protect the private ownership of flame throwers and hand grenades. The First Amendment is a dangerous anachronism.

Sorry, you are wrong again ! Try again!

 

[Politruk]

Actually, yes it does but it does so as a result of causality.

The Constitution's legally binding preamble sets forth who the Constitution applies to and that is We the People of the United States.

The Constitution then applies to those citizens subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

No court in the country will take that seriously. Generally speaking, citizens have only two sets of rights or privileges noncitizens have not: Living and working on American soil, and voting.

 

[Bray123]

Well I own 3 of them and I haven't had anyone ask me to give them up so...I think I will keep them! Just sayin

Trump will take yours away as soon as hears about them. He said so.

https://imgur.com/HpCbizk

 

[JohnEngelman]

Sorry, you are wrong again ! Try again!

How am I wrong?

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The Commonwealth Fund October 30, 2024

With far more people dying of gun-related causes annually in the United States than in other high-income countries, U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, M.D., officially declared firearm violence a public health crisis on June 25, 2024. In his advisory, Murthy noted that over half of U.S. adults have either experienced gun-related violence themselves or have a family member who has. Firearms are the leading cause of death for children in the U.S. and are the weapons used most often in domestic violence against women.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pu...paring-deaths-gun-violence-us-other-countries

I want gun ownership to be treated the way the ownership of a car is treated. it should be a privilege granted reluctantly by the government.

 

[Politruk]

How did this subject come up? Did somebody do something with an AR-15?

 

[Politruk]

I want gun ownership to be treated the way the ownership of a car is treated. it should be a privilege granted reluctantly by the government.

Government does not regulate car ownership. It only regulates car driving.

 

[Bray123]

In fairness, the forum crazyman knows that now due process is not required by ICE or Trump any longer, he's liable to be captured in the street and have his head shaved.

The Gestapo used to do that to people entering certain camps, ICE do it to people being deported to the El Salvador Gulag.

 

[Bray123]

Government does not regulate car ownership. It only regulates car driving.

So a license should be needed to fire a gun, but not to own it.

 

[Bray123]

The military doesn't use AR-15s.


/thread

So in that case nobody should have them.

 

[Politruk]

The military doesn't use AR-15s.


/thread

What model rifle do they use?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Government does not regulate car ownership. It only regulates car driving.

A car title is a legal document establishing proof of ownership of a vehicle. Issued by the state where the car, truck, or SUV was purchased, the title accompanies the vehicle throughout its life.

It’s reissued with each new owner and any new state of residence.

https://www.kbb.com/car-advice/car-title-guide/#:~:text=A car title is a,any new state of residence.

 

[Politruk]

A car title is a legal document establishing proof of ownership of a vehicle. Issued by the state where the car, truck, or SUV was purchased, the title accompanies the vehicle throughout its life.

Yeah, but that's not regulation of ownership. Even a 10-year-old can own a car.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Yeah, but that's not regulation of ownership. Even a 10-year-old can own a car.

Can you document that, the way I document my assertions?

I want the government to discourage gun ownership. Those who own guns should be required to do a ballistics test and give the results to the FBI. That way, when someone is shot it will be easy to identify the shooter. The ownership of an unregistered gun should be a serious offense, resulting in severe punishment.

 

[HisArpy]

You don't understand the OP.

They didn't say you shouldn't have any guns at all, just no military style assault weapons, get it? Can you read?

Fuck off with your gun memes you idiot

The OP is stupid because the 2nd Amendment doesn't say what guns you're allowed to have.

First it's an enumerate Right which "shall not be infringed." Which means we're not "allowed" to own guns, it's our God Given Right and the Government cannot take that away from us.

Second, it says ARMS, as in ALL arms. Of which the AR-15 is just one type.



Your post is just as stupid because you can't differentiate from the anti-gun talking points and reality. Why? Because you don't bother to educate yourself before opening your yap and shoving your foot past your tonsils.

So take your own advice and just FO.

 

[rgraham666]

Don't you understand? The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood!

Blood! Blood! Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

Now I'm being sarcastic as fuck but way too many 'firearm enthusiasts' believe this. This is why their reaction to mass shootings is always "Moar gunz!" If more people die then America is freer.

And I do regard them as Khorne worshippers.

 

[rgraham666]

Can you document that, the way I document my assertions?

I want the government to discourage gun ownership. Those who own guns should be required to do a ballistics test and give the results to the FBI. That way, when someone is shot it will be easy to identify the shooter. The ownership of an unregistered gun should be a serious offense, resulting in severe punishment.

My take is that we should use the NRA's own rules for safe firearm handling as the basis for laws regarding firearms.

Didn't verify the loaded/unloaded status of a firearm? Misdemeanour. Property damage? Felony vandalism. Person injured? Felony assault. Person died. Manslaughter.

Pointed weapon at someone/thing you didn't intend to shoot? Same punishments as above.

Lost control of your weapon? Same punishments.

Firearms require training and care. Too many people only know which end of them the 'bang!' comes out of.

 

[TJX]

A well regulated militia, bring necessary to the sovereignty of a free state……… a bunch of individuals is neither well regulated or a militia. Convenient how the setting of the 2nd is ignored.

 

[HisArpy]

Don't you understand? The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood!

Blood! Blood! Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

Now I'm being sarcastic as fuck but way too many 'firearm enthusiasts' believe this. This is why their reaction to mass shootings is always "Moar gunz!" If more people die then America is freer.

And I do regard them as Khorne worshippers.

There was a study that just came out about CCW permit holders and the police in a shooting event.

Fewer people died when the CCW permit holder was on the scene when the shooting began. Fewer shots were fired and there was less property damage. There wasn't much difference between CCW holders taking out the bad guy and the police doing it, but there was a difference.

So it seems as if your belief that more guns equal more bloodshed doesn't hold up to actual reality. To me what it does say is that your belief was formed based on MMRPG and political narrative rather than actual facts.

 

[TJX]

Each and every state has a well regulated militia. It’s called the National Guard.

 

[HisArpy]

A well regulated militia, bring necessary to the sovereignty of a free state……… a bunch of individuals is neither well regulated or a militia. Convenient how the setting of the 2nd is ignored.

To begin, misquoting the 2nd Amendment when a half second google search can give you the actual text for C&P is where you began to go wrong.

It didn't get any better from there.

 

[HisArpy]

Each and every state has a well regulated militia. It’s called the National Guard.

Once again, you misspeak on what is, and what isn't the Militia.

 

[MusicForTheDeaf]

The top rifle is the Ruger 14 Mini, a civilian sporting rifle appropriate for hunting and home defense.

The bottom rifle is an AR-15, which is a military-style ASSAULT WEAPON that ONLY THE MILITARY should be allowed to have!

 

[eric_erosfan]

The top rifle is the Ruger 14 Mini, a civilian sporting rifle appropriate for hunting and home defense.

The bottom rifle is an AR-15, which is a military-style ASSAULT WEAPON that ONLY THE MILITARY should be allowed to have!View attachment 2530459

Lol. I mean both of those rifles are equal. One just looks scarier.

 

[HisArpy]

The top rifle is the Ruger 14 Mini, a civilian sporting rifle appropriate for hunting and home defense.

The bottom rifle is an AR-15, which is a military-style ASSAULT WEAPON that ONLY THE MILITARY should be allowed to have!View attachment 2530459

Besides one being black, and therefore scary, there's no difference between the two rifles.

Both are semi-automatic and only fire one shot per trigger pull. Both have removable magazines. Both fire a .22 caliber round. Both can mount a scope. Both have attachable slings.

But one is black and the other isn't.

I wonder if anyone else can see the democrat hypocrisy about something being black and therefore "bad."