Old Age Got Me.
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Age is a bitch. A much smarter bitch then the wench of youth.
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I knew you were post-modern at heart, James; after all, for a reader, a text is merely a pretext to write your own text (Umberto Eco).
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George V. Higgins said: BAD WRITERS PLAGIARIZE. GREAT WRITERS STEAL.
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"a modest canon: That great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil."
- W. H. Davenport Adams, in The Gentlemen's Magazine, 1892
Since then it has been revised, imitated, and stolen by many, including T. S. Eliot, Pablo Picasso, and Steve Jobs.
Who the hell is George V. Higgins?
Never mind. I looked him up. I'm not that fond of crime lit, but do read some. How would you rate Higgins, James? Should take a read?
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I was trying to find the supper menu on the Home's website, those damn orderlies don't know anything.
Who are you people, and where's the menu? I wanted to see if they were going to have lima beans. If they were I would go out with my grandson, but otherwise I'd stay at the home for supper. That tight sonofabitch grandson is so tight he won't even let me have tea with supper, just water.
Who are you people, and where's the menu? I wanted to see if they were going to have lima beans. If they were I would go out with my grandson, but otherwise I'd stay at the home for supper. That tight sonofabitch grandson is so tight he won't even let me have tea with supper, just water.
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I bought almost all of his books. They made movies of the early ones, but I don't care for the last books. Elmore Leonard said Higgins taught him how to write.
http://www.elmoreleonard.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/239/
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I'll try one of his early ones, then. Thanks, James.
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The end of COGAN'S TRADE changed to KILLING THEM SOFTLY, starring Brad Pitt. My favorite Higgins book. Jackie Cogan is an assassin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6GHnxEJjg
THE FRIENDS OF EDDIE COYLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8F673p4Edo
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Sucks getting old!
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Story of my life
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I agree, but when you get real old...Damn you do get stupid! or at least I have.
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Better to realize them than not realize them.
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I miss Noir Trash (more famous here as Jamesbjohnson) he tried to have serious discussions about writing style, but was always harassed by a handful of regulars who didn't like the fact he was harsh in his critiques, and also an Archi Bunker type who didn't pretend to be PC. He helped me a lot because I responded to his "Listen, Elsie, you have some talent, but you're a hot fucking mess who has no idea what he's doing." and other supportive comments. Few years later he sent me an e-mail that he bought my first BDSM novel. "Well, well, the bitch put his big boy pants on and learned some new tricks"
I imagine he may have passed by now, he was up there in years and declining health.
But he's one of the best "Fuck you stories" here. He never published anything and the people who always attacked him claimed its because he couldn't. He posted a slew of stories that didn't do great score wise because they were about trashy people doing shitty things, but a lot of people remarked on his writing ability.
He also won a green E under an alt pen name that he only shared with a few of us, his detractors claimed he was lying and if he wasn't to show it to everyone, and he never would and I always admired that.
We could use a couple more like him these days. Way too much high fiving and back slapping and tip toeing around people's feelings here. Anyone who didn't like him was simply too soft.
I imagine he may have passed by now, he was up there in years and declining health.
But he's one of the best "Fuck you stories" here. He never published anything and the people who always attacked him claimed its because he couldn't. He posted a slew of stories that didn't do great score wise because they were about trashy people doing shitty things, but a lot of people remarked on his writing ability.
He also won a green E under an alt pen name that he only shared with a few of us, his detractors claimed he was lying and if he wasn't to show it to everyone, and he never would and I always admired that.
We could use a couple more like him these days. Way too much high fiving and back slapping and tip toeing around people's feelings here. Anyone who didn't like him was simply too soft.
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I miss him a lot. He was around for a while after I first joined Lit and we had some great off-line conversations. I know back then his eyesight was going - loved some of his stories and he was good. But as you said, a bit harsh, blunt and he wasn't shy about his opinions. LOL. Underneath it, he was a really nice old guy and he took the time to chat with me when I was a newbie and offer a few comments and some advice which was neither harsh nor off-point. Loved the old guy and I still miss him.
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