Progressives Withheld their Vote For Kamala (Hillary) For "Reasons"
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Mostly it was antisemitism and misogyny.Yeah, they did…
We. Told. Them. So.
Kamala is not Jewish. And anti-Israel is not antisemitic.
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Accusing Israel of genocide and apartheid is antisemitic. A lot of progressives have a lot a hard work to do.
That is a lie.
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Why is accusing Israel of anything anitsemitic?
Are people supposed to pretend the nation can do no wrong or be accused of anything?
Accusing the Jews, collectively, of some crime would be antisemitic. But the State of Israel is not the Jews, despite the ancient practice of using "Israel" as a collective term for the Jewish people -- "Let his name be called in Israel," etc.
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If Israel were committing genocide in Gaza it wouldn't be antisemitic to say so, but Israel has come nowhere close to committing genocide. In fact they've continued to supply food to the people who started the war and want Israel erased from the map.
The use of the "genocide" slur against Israel is pure antisemitism.
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Singling out the world's only majority-Jewish state for special condemnation is antisemitic.
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Your assertion would just make it a false claim, not 'antisemitic'.
Since when is the term 'genocide' a 'slur' and not just a descriptor?
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Since when has the state of Israel being accused of genocide qualified as 'special' criticism? The accusation of state perpetuated genocide has existed long before the state of Israel has.
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It's a slur because the Jews are well-known for being the victims of an actual genocide. Antisemites take particular glee at being able to apply the term to the Gazans.
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That alone should give you a clue that the accusations are baseless. The population in Gaza has steadily increased all through the so-called "genocide".
Only if it is being condemned as a Jewish state. South Africa never was one, and was widely condemned for Apartheid; it is not antisemitic to condemn Israel for similar policies.
I very much doubt that it has increased much since this war started. Have the births even kept pace with the deaths?
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Any group having been the victim of genocide does not make them immune from that accusation, nor does it change the term to a 'slur'.
Your assertions are just asserting a false claim. No group gets to claim an accusation is suddenly a slur just because they point to historical claims of equivalent accusations in reverse.
Let’s review:
1) Hamas conducted the 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation with the INTENTION & GOAL of prompting a response like we have seen from Israel.
2) The ultimate GOAL was a worldwide Jihad against Israel, EITHER in support of / piggybacking on the 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation, OR, in "retaliation" to the Israelis military response which PREDICTABLY would be / was heavy handed.
3) Hamas wanted this to happen, and they made it inevitable, so they are culpable / responsible for the results.(whatever people want to label it.)
Meanwhile: What would ANY country in a similar situation as Israel after the 10/7 attack / atrocity do??? And what should the world’s attitude be to the whole situation???
For reference: SOME in the world are calling Gaza a "genocide”, while showing LESS outrage over the ACTUAL genocide Russia is perpetrating against Ukraine - and RUSSIA was / is the instigator of the Ukraine conflict!!! (There might be some anti-Semitism involved with Israel…)
Ultimately: The VERY REAL anti-Semitism involving Israel DID bleed into the 2024 election, as MANY "progressives" withheld their vote for Kamala or ACTUALLY VOTED FOR TRUMP over the issue.
Again: How is that working out???
We. Told. Them. So.
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In fact they have. Hamas has been reporting all deaths in Gaza as a result of the war. That's how they got to their inflated numbers.
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Which of Israel's policies do you consider Apartheid?
Exercising control over populations that have no voice in the government that rules them. The OTs might as well be a Bantustan -- even if they get to elect their own government, it does not get to do anything Israel will not allow.
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The fact that the Jews were the victims of genocide doesn't automatically make the accusation against Israel false. It explains why the false accusation is so popular with antisemites.
If Mexican terrorists had conducted a border raid and taken a hundred Americans hostage, we might now be at war with Mexico, but we would not be pounding every Mexican city to rubble, and nobody in our government would even be talking about expelling Mexico's entire population.
If the terrorists were Canadian, we would still be at the negotiating table and the troops would still be awaiting orders to move.
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