Indian Drone Hacked by Chinese PLA

[gxnn]

Two days ago, while an Indian drone was flying near the Chinese border, China seized control of it.

According to foreign and local media reports, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) has seized control of an Indian drone flying near its border, cutting off its data link and sending the drone back to India. The PLA captured the drone, which is of Israeli origin.

The seizure of the PLA drone, despite its encrypted data link, has highlighted the security risks associated with India's reliance on foreign technology for its defense systems.

Previously, both sides agreed not to use hot weapons to settle border problems, then Indian troops were hit hard in the face of Chinese Kungfu equipped with Made in China cold weapons.

Now in the morden warfare, Indian troops do not have any advantage and will be in more dangers if more drones were put in service.

Unlike the Russian and Chinese military parades, Indian military ends up its annual celebration with motorbike pyramid performance, which looks funny and impotent and vulnerable in real wars, as if a girl with her panties removed to wait for rapists, who are in great number in that country and who have never stopped their sexual intercourse experiment with cows, dogs, reptiles, even with motorbike exhaust pipe.

 

[Politruk]

Why is it that China and India are always on bad terms? I've heard they have territorial disputes -- but any land both could claim would be in the Himalayas, useless and worthless.

 

[Lazaran]

I’m convinced:

India should nuke China.

 

[LLCox]

Why don't they use magic carpets ?

 

[Politruk]

I’m convinced:

India should nuke China.

They do have nukes -- but they're aimed at Pakistan.

 

[Chernosoth]

Anti-drone tech is starting to get some notice and funding. Everything from birds to museum biplanes will be tested.

 

[Politruk]

This tech naturally follows from the invention and use of drones, just like gas masks naturally follow from the introduction of gas weapons -- it's inevitable.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Indian Army Parade.....

vs Chinese Army Parade

 

[Rebel5soul]

Two days ago, while an Indian drone was flying near the Chinese border, China seized control of it.

According to foreign and local media reports, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) has seized control of an Indian drone flying near its border, cutting off its data link and sending the drone back to India. The PLA captured the drone, which is of Israeli origin.

The seizure of the PLA drone, despite its encrypted data link, has highlighted the security risks associated with India's reliance on foreign technology for its defense systems.

Previously, both sides agreed not to use hot weapons to settle border problems, then Indian troops were hit hard in the face of Chinese Kungfu equipped with Made in China cold weapons.

Now in the morden warfare, Indian troops do not have any advantage and will be in more dangers if more drones were put in service.

Unlike the Russian and Chinese military parades, Indian military ends up its annual celebration with motorbike pyramid performance, which looks funny and impotent and vulnerable in real wars, as if a girl with her panties removed to wait for rapists, who are in great number in that country and who have never stopped their sexual intercourse experiment with cows, dogs, reptiles, even with motorbike exhaust pipe.

*chuckle* What's the source on that one?

 

[Politruk]

Indian Army Parade.....

vs Chinese Army Parade

Interesting -- only the Chinese look like they could fight.

 

[ChloeTzang]

LOL India totally out-classed by China.

India does however have significant advantage in Powerpoint Presentations.....

 

[ChloeTzang]

India: Too Inspirational
China: Too Dedicated
Russian: Too Persuasive
US: Two Mom

I admit to a certain amount of bias here.....alth only being half-Chinese I am only half-biased, except where India is concerned when it goes to 100% LOL

vs Indian Army

vs Ukrainian Army Ad

vs US Army Ad

British Army Ads....

 

[Rebel5soul]

LOL India totally out-classed by China.

India does however have significant advantage in Powerpoint Presentations.....

So Xi has decided to put some pressure on India. This is a reaction to something India has done. I'll track it down soon.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Aussie Army Ad

New Zealand Army Ad....

 

[Politruk]

India: Too Inspirational
China: Too Dedicated
Russian: Too Persuasive
US: Two Mom

I admit to a certain amount of bias here.....alth only being half-Chinese I am only half-biased, except where India is concerned when it goes to 100% LOL

IMO, the Indians have the Chinese beat all hollow on at least one cultural point: Cuisine.

I do love Chinese food -- but it can't compare! Have the Chinese never even heard of bread?!

And of course there are no dairy products in Chinese cuisine, none at all. Lactose intolerance, I believe.

 

[Rebel5soul]

India: Too Inspirational
China: Too Dedicated
Russian: Too Persuasive
US: Two Mom

I admit to a certain amount of bias here.....alth only being half-Chinese I am only half-biased, except where India is concerned when it goes to 100% LOL

vs Indian Army

vs Ukrainian Army Ad

vs US Army Ad

British Army Ads....

The US has gone to 'Dad' administratively. System shock.

 

[Politruk]

Why is it that China and India are always on bad terms? I've heard they have territorial disputes -- but any land both could claim would be in the Himalayas, useless and worthless.

Seriously, what is that all about?

 

[Bray123]

China is a top-down control regime in the tradition of Mao, everyone has to behave in approved fashion and if there are small businesses they tend to be mobster-influenced (such as restaurants). Trump loves that system.

India is far more entrepreneurial. People are not so reliant on the state and start up industries on their own account. The sort of system that MAGAts pretend to espouse but secretly it frightens them.

The sooner that drone technology in warfare is neutralized, the better.

 

[Politruk]

China is a top-down control regime in the tradition of Mao, everyone has to behave in approved fashion and if there are small businesses they tend to be mobster-influenced (such as restaurants).

That actually sounds a lot like the old, imperial China, except that the officials are indoctrinated in Communism instead of Confucianism.

 

[Chernosoth]

China is only a short term threat. It doesn't have enough youth to continue as a nation. The death spiral will accelerate rapidly as it loses global trade. India could gain some Tibetan territory or guard the border more against Chinese refugees. The Uyghurs with Muslim birthrates could be a rising power in what's left of China.

 

[ChloeTzang]

IMO, the Indians have the Chinese beat all hollow on at least one cultural point: Cuisine.

I do love Chinese food -- but it can't compare! Have the Chinese never even heard of bread?!

And of course there are no dairy products in Chinese cuisine, none at all. Lactose intolerance, I believe.

Ohhhhh, there is Chinese bread - if you ever have the chance to go to a Chinese bakery - yum! All sorts of buns too, sweet as well as savoury. It's a bit of a differemt style to European-style bread though, and mostly it's, I think, northern Chinese stuff. Cantonese is more noodles and dumplings and that kind of thing. Personally my favorite is the deep-fried bread rolls to go with congee, but some of the buns!!! Yum yum yum now you have me thinking of dim sum. LOL

As for dairy, half-Chinese and never been to China, go figure, so I can't really talk to that one. gxnn could, I'm sure.

As for Indian vs Chinese - I love both. Grew up at home with a weird mix of Chinese, Vietnamese, Polish and "American" for want of a better description, and I travelled a lot with my parents so I got to survive on all kinds of food - love Indoneasian and Thai, I die for a good rare steak, lol - South Africa and Argentina were heaven - lots of arab stuff in Riyadh - English breakfasts and pub lunches LOL - Indian buffet restaurants are heaven - Korean - Japanese - you name it. So yeah, I know what you mean. Some of that Indian stuff is divine and I love naan and chapatti's. My theory on food is very simple, if it's there, I'll try it and I'll probably enjoy it.

I wouldn't say for myself that Indian beats Chinese or vice versa, they're just very different and I really like them both.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Seriously, what is that all about?

Goes way back to the old colonial days and the British Raj vs the seizing of chunks of Chinese border territories from the old Qing dynasty. Thats why you also see those ongoung border disputes between China and Russia, where the old Tzar's seized big chunks along the Amur river in Siberia as well as that chunk you can see off to the west of Outer Mongolia. Valid claim, too. Those WERE ruled, more or less, by the old Qing Dynasty and China has very valid grounds to demand their return.

As for the disputes with India, it all goes back to the delineation of the borders between the British Raj and China back 100 years ago. Back then, Tibet was quasi-independant, something that the British preferred, as with Sinkiang, as it put buffer states between Russia & China and India. The disputes are all historical and based on the 1914 Simla Conference where the British and Chinese disagreed on the border - and in the east, the British rep. Sir Henry McMahon, simply drew the "McMahon Line" on the map without Chinese agreement, which was then delineated as the border for all intents and purposes. These Chinese at that time had no control over any of the areas being discussed. The McMahon line is the basis of the Indian claim to the area that was formerly known as the North-East Frontier Agency; and has since become the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.

It was drawn with a complete disregard for cartographic techniques and the geography of the area. The scale was - eight miles to an inch. “The actual treaty map itself is topographically vague (as the treaty was not accompanied with demarcation), and the treaty includes no verbal description of geographic features nor description of the highest ridges.” (Wikipedia) There is no protocol or scientific method that uses cartographic techniques to identify the geographical location of the line. The McMahon line was literally a line on paper.

Historical claims on the Aksai China area in the west are even more dubious. There has never been any concrete demarcation of this region. Britain was concerned about Russia's designs in this area, and hence proposed to make the Karakorum Pass as the boundary, so as to again create a buffer between Xinjiang/China and India.

"In early 1880s, China and India agreed the Karakoram Pass as the fixed point of boundary, while leaving both sides of the pass indefinite. In the mid-1890s, China claimed Aksai Chin as its territory, and voiced the claim to Macartney in 1896, who drew part of the British boundary in the Himalayas. Macartney presented the claim to the British who agreed with his comment that part of Aksai Chin was in China and part in the British territory. Meanwhile, the forward school of British strategist in London suggested that the British should not only include the whole of Aksai Chin, but also all the territory given to Kashmir in 1865."

In 1899, the British proposed to China that the whole of Aksai Chin would remain Chinese territory and the boundary would be along the Karakorum range; which is the status quo today. The Karakorum pass falls precisely on the boundary of territory controlled by India and China, marking northern end of Sino-Indian border, known as the Line of Actual Control. However, China didn't reply to this proposal, something which it would regret for years. If it had, the fate of Aksai Chin would have been sealed then and there. Nehru, for his part, appeared willing to play down the Indian claims to the Aksai Chin. He tried to delay disclosure if the news that the Chinese had built a road in the area. After the news had been revealed, he sought to play down the economic significance of the area, describing it as “barren tundra" and where "not even a blade of grass grows". He even went so far as to cast doubt on the validity of the Indian claim to Aksai Chin. In statements to the Indian Parliament during early 1959, Nehru pointed out that "...during British rule, this area was neither inhabited: nor were there any outposts, .......this place, Aksai Chin area, is distinguished completely from other areas. It is a matter for argument which part belongs to us and which part belongs to somebody else. It is not clear".

It's complicated, there's a lot of background to the dispute, Britain has disavowed the 1914 Simla Conference where the McMahon line was unilaterally drawn, re,oving the sole legal justification for India's claim to Aryunchal Pradesh, but despite this, China has been remarkably conciliatory and has even agreed to recognize the McMahon line in the eastern sector provided India recognized Chinese claims on the rChinese-controlled Aksai Chin. In other words, China has taken a prudent first step and is willing to convert the current status quo 'borders' into the international boundary, while India, on the other hand, is just not willing to even discuss a mutual compromise.

 

[Chernosoth]

More Battlebots. Any nation trying to become a regional power could start its own drone combat sport league.

 

[Politruk]

Goes way back to the old colonial days and the British Raj vs the seizing of chunks of Chinese border territories from the old Qing dynasty.

Why does that matter now? The disputed territory is still worthless. Why fight over it? Does somebody need it as right-of-way for a highway or a railroad?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Why does that matter now? The disputed territory is still worthless. Why fight over it? Does somebody need it as right-of-way for a highway or a railroad?

China has a strategic highway running right thru the middle of the Aksai Chin. As for the Indians, just nationalism I think.....seems like a straightforward thing to settle to me. Storm in a teacup and all a bit pointless, and last time they had a real fight over it the Chinese trashed the Indians and, point made, turned around and went home.

A bit like the Kashmir dispute with Pakistan. Neither side will win, just agree the existimg demarcation line is the border and quit. They need to do it for me, anyhow. I want to go to Srinigar one day and stay on one of those houseboats on the lake without being a terrorist target