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YDB95 said:
Well, I was all set to give you credit for originality on that one. But one lousy minute of googling revealed that:
1. This is simply the latest right-wing faux outrage;
2. There were Republican senators at that meeting too, including Graham, and;
3. No one at the meeting advised Zelenskyy to reject the minerals deal (which he has since in fact said he will accept). He merely said at the meeting that he would not be agreeing to a peace treaty that simply gave Putin everything he wanted, which is exactly what Trump wanted him to do. And he was already saying before he even came to DC that he would not accept that. No need for any senator to talk him out of it.

The minerals deal (for what Trump calls "raw earth minerals" - the real term is "rare earth") is separate and distinct from the peace talks, to the extent that the latter even exist yet.
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ll74 said:
Zelensky discussed his intentions of not signing the deal without security assurances to those in attendance. Nobody advised him to do anything.

Trump rejected the deal by kicking Zelensky out prior to negotiating.
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There is a Megyn Kelly podcast that delves in chronological details of all the meetings. It a long discussion which refutes what you wrote. Refutes why YB wrote.


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SpicyBean99 said:
Every source has its biases, even if they strive for neutrality. Wikipedia, like any open-source platform, reflects the perspectives of its contributors, and while it enforces citation standards, it isn't immune to systemic bias or editorial slants.

The same goes for fact-checking sites….as much as they aim for accuracy … they are still run by people with their own viewpoints.

That doesn't make them innately useless, but it does mean critical thinking is always necessary, no matter the source….

Key word: Critical Thinking.
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100%

That critical thinking is something that seems to be lacking far too much is far many spheres these days.

Wiki is fine for top level info, but should be used with a cynical eye for anything that needs to be properly understood or referenced. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong, you just need to use it sensibly.

The world would be a better place if people used a lot more critical thinking every day!!
 
ll74 said:
This is nothing but a talking point and lie. Murphy already said that he did not tell or urge Zelensky to do anything.
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Murphy lied. He attempted to remove his original comments, didn’t work. Watch the Megyn Kelly video
 
icanhelp1 said:
Murphy lied. He attempted to remove his original comments, didn’t work. Watch the Megyn Kelly video
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His only comment was that Zelensky told him that he wouldn't accept an agreement without security assurances.

Nowhere did Murphy say that he did anything to influence him either way.

And in the end, Trump rejected the deal before they even discussed it.

Kelly is parroting the bullshit just as you are.
 
ll74 said:
You posted her entire podcast? Lol....JFC old man....

She's lying.
Murphy nor Kelly did not urge Zelensky to do anything. Zelensky was already decided on possibly turning down the deal.

And again - Trump rejected the deal
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Rob,
How do you know? Your news is fake.. lol
That a moron!
 
ll74 said:
You posted her entire podcast? Lol....JFC old man....

She's lying.
Murphy nor Kelly did not urge Zelensky to do anything. Zelensky was already decided on possibly turning down the deal.

And again - Trump rejected the deal
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Start listening at the 1 hour and 2 minutes time stamp, goes into detail Conversations with Murphy and Kelly prior. Zelensky was ready to sign prior to Murphy’s attempt to run the agreement of the rails
 
icanhelp1 said:
Start listening at the 1 hour and 2 minutes
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I've already heard her bullshit on the topic.

Murphy did not convince Zelensky to do anything.

It's the same bullshit as when Johnson was said to have prevented a peace deal, when in reality it was the Bucha massacre by Russian forces that negated that deal.
 
Big_Mikes_Balls said:
It’s so awesome to see you breakdown! Truth hurts. The next few months are going to be glorious.
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Hey! Dickhead!
Was I talking to you?
If and when I choose to talk to you, you will know it. Until that time I find you worthy to do so you sit yer lying dumb ass down and tend to your own business.
 
Bn2f said:
Hey! Dickhead!
Was I talking to you?
If and when I choose to talk to you, you will know it. Until that time I find you worthy to do so you sit yer lying dumb ass down and tend to your own business.
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Lol
Get triggered Communist scum.
I love having fun with you. You are trumps little bitch
 
ll74 said:
I've already heard her bullshit on the topic.

Murphy did not convince Zelensky to do anything.

It's the same bullshit as when Johnson was said to have prevented a peace deal, when in reality it was the Bucha massacre by Russian forces that negated that deal.
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https://dailycaller.com/2025/03/03/megyn-kelly-democrats-us-ukraine-deal-zelenskyy/

Kelly also read Murphy’s post to X prior to the Oval Office meeting, in which he wrote that Ukraine “will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements,” alongside a picture of him, Zelenskyy, and other officials. (RELATED: ‘Just Don’t Get It’: Rubio Tears Into Stephanopoulos Over Russia Claims, Says Sooner Everyone ‘Grows Up’’ The Better)

“You see what he did,” Kelly said. “His post accompanied a picture of Zelensky at a conference table with ‘Oh, who’s that across from him? It’s Senator Murphy, who’s right across from him.’ This was within one hour of Zelensky’s White House meeting.”
 
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