For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Fuzzy1975]

We're conversing about Ukraine you fucking ignoramus.

Excuse me?

Although I have enormous respect for Chloe we don't agree on many areas.

Ok where exactly in the sentence above do you refer to Ukraine, and no I won't accept an answer that you give "because we're in a thread about Ukraine"

However, that being said, she's genuine in her opinions and to be respected.

Yah I've got about much respect for the cunt as I do for a cockroach.

You, on the other hand, fly somewhere in the exosphere with other members of the oxygen deprived galactically stupid.

lol.......I take this as a complement, coming from you.

 

[Rightguide]

Exactly!!!

All the left knows is their hate for Trump. It blocks their path to enlightenment on Ukraine and every other policy issue. No successful negotiation can begin with a blame game. Reports are the mineral deal is about to be signed. That will place an American interest in Ukraine that will contribute to its security as long as its footprint is economic and not military. Putin has just said he would accept European peacekeepers in Ukraine. That doesn't mean NATO forces. I said early on that Ukraine would be better served if it was neutral like Austria. That would assuage Russian security fears and allow for economic expansion and foreign investment that advances opportunity and prosperity for the Ukrainian people.

 

[Rightguide]

I've often wrote that Trump smiles at Putin's face while kicking him in the balls. People don't know their history.

They wall off their access to the truth with their hate.

 

[AlexBailey]

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/on-the-record-the-u-s-administrations-actions-on-russia/

That article provides a laundry list of why Russia is a bad actor that cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith.

… yet Trump takes Putin’s side in the Ukrainian conflict.

 

[Rightguide]

That article provides a laundry list of why Russia is a bad actor that cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith.

… yet Trump takes Putin’s side in the Ukrainian conflict.

He isn't taking Putin's side you idiot, He's hammering out a deal to stop a continuing slaughter that you seem to be entirely invested in.

 

[ll74]

He isn't taking Putin's side you idiot, He's hammering out a deal to stop a continuing slaughter that you seem to be entirely invested in.

He is absolutely taking Putin's side. Word for word.

Ukraine started the war.
Zelensky is a dictator.
Ukraine must give up all the land they lost.

The only thing 47 has yet to say is discussing Nazis.

Not a single word about the kidnapped Ukranian children being returned.
Not a single word about Ukranian security.
Not a single word about Russian retreat from Ukraine territory.

There is not one single Ukranian position that has been publicly supported by 47.

 

[Rightguide]

He is absolutely taking Putin's side. Word for word.

Ukraine started the war.
Zelensky is a dictator.
Ukraine must give up all the land they lost.

The only thing 47 has yet to say is discussing Nazis.

Not a single word about the kidnapped Ukranian children being returned.
Not a single word about Ukranian security.
Not a single word about Russian retreat from Ukraine territory.

There is not one single Ukranian position that has been publicly supported by 47.

You are a liar. You have no clue what is happening in those negotiations, none.

 

[ll74]

You are a liar. You have no clue what is happening in those negotiations, none.

I am just repeating what has been publicly stated by the administration.

You are blinded by that 47 cock in your mouth.

 

[AlexBailey]

He isn't taking Putin's side you idiot, He's hammering out a deal to stop a continuing slaughter that you seem to be entirely invested in.

Oh? Who does Trump believe is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine?

 

[Rightguide]

I am just repeating what has been publicly stated by the administration.

You are blinded by that 47 cock in your mouth.

Your problem is a lack of experience, intelligence, and integrity.

 

[Rightguide]

Oh? Who does Trump believe is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine?

I can't speak for the President, but ask yourself what was happening in the Donbas just before the invasion?

 

[ll74]

Your problem is a lack of experience, intelligence, and integrity.

I am repeating what the administration has said publicly.

The only problem I have is a complete public dismissal of the Ukranian people in favor of Russian capitulation. Whether you believe there is a larger "plan" that results in our ally, Ukraine, having any demands met or not isn't my issue.

 

[Cogan]

I can't speak for the President, but ask yourself what was happening in the Donbas just before the invasion?

The Ukraine army tried to defend Donbas from Russian occupation since 2014!

 

[AlexBailey]

I can't speak for the President, but ask yourself what was happening in the Donbas just before the invasion?

You don’t have to speak for the president. He spoke for himself, yet you still seem willing to look the other way.

Sycophant: See @Rightguide

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Your problem is a lack of experience, intelligence, and integrity.

Well you do seem to have a lot of experience with cocks in your mouth.

 

[icanhelp1]

All the left knows is their hate for Trump. It blocks their path to enlightenment on Ukraine and every other policy issue. No successful negotiation can begin with a blame game. Reports are the mineral deal is about to be signed. That will place an American interest in Ukraine that will contribute to its security as long as its footprint is economic and not military. Putin has just said he would accept European peacekeepers in Ukraine. That doesn't mean NATO forces. I said early on that Ukraine would be better served if it was neutral like Austria. That would assuage Russian security fears and allow for economic expansion and foreign investment that advances opportunity and prosperity for the Ukrainian people.

I've posted similar comments. People have lost their aggies.

 

[Politruk]

Your problem is a lack of experience, intelligence, and integrity.

You have no intelligence or integrity. Cannot speak to your experience -- anything you posted about that would be a lie anyway.

 

[ll74]

I've posted similar comments. People have lost their aggies.

"The blame game"

47 has blamed Ukraine.

If negotiations don't start with blame, then 47 isn't negotiating.

 

[Politruk]

Putin has just said he would accept European peacekeepers in Ukraine. That doesn't mean NATO forces.

Yes, it does.

 

[icanhelp1]

You are a liar. You have no clue what is happening in those negotiations, none.

Not saying something has now become siding with Putin. Biden, NATO and the EU all fucked up but ya don't see the left crying in their beer over that.

 

[icanhelp1]

"The blame game"

47 has blamed Ukraine.

If negotiations don't start with blame, then 47 isn't negotiating.

If ya can't establish common ground then ya don't have negotiations.

 

[ll74]

If ya can't establish common ground then ya don't have negotiations.

Common ground is not capitulation.

Russia invaded Ukraine. That's a fact.

Ukraine did not start the war. That is a fact.

Explain away that 47 is throwing Ukraine under the bus all you want. It's what he is doing very clearly.

Putin is a dictator. That is a fact.
Zelensky is not a dictator. That is a fact.

Strength is not capitulation. Leverage does not start by giving them everything.

Our ally is Ukraine. That is a fact.
Our adversary is Russia. That is a fact.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Ican't has now left the chat....

Although I have enormous respect for Chloe we don't agree on many areas. However, that being said, she's genuine in her opinions and to be respected. You, on the other hand, fly somewhere in the exosphere with other members of the oxygen deprived galactically stupid.

What???? Bullshit, you two are in lock step, except for Ukraine.

Maybe I should go dig up how many of her post's you've liked....Mr "I don't carry water for Trump".

We're conversing about Ukraine you fucking ignoramus.

Excuse me?


Ok where exactly in the sentence above do you refer to Ukraine, and no I won't accept an answer that you give "because we're in a thread about Ukraine"

Yah I've got about much respect for the cunt as I do for a cockroach.

lol.......I take this as a complement, coming from you.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Oh? Who does Trump believe is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine?

He's pretty much blamed Zelensky for not rolling over and playing dead for Putin. Which is a pretty disgusting attitude and view to express.

I agree with much of what Trump is doing domestically, and I am not quite a single issue voter - but I never imagined Trump would take this approach to Ukraine. It really bugs me that he has and if he goes down this path, I sure won't be voting for Vance in 2028. Even with this, I'm not sure if I'd have changed my vote in the last election. There's so much that needs to be fixed, and Trump taking a wrecking ball to everything is going to fix a lot of things - but taking a wrecking ball to foreign policy and Ukraine is just stupid. Short sighted, and given Russia's intentions towards Ukraine, just plan evil. It makes Trump an accessory to intended genocide, and that's beyond the pale.

And for anyone that wants me to say it again, I was wrong about what Trump would do regarding Ukraine. I thought he was smarter than this and would see what the best interests of the USA are. Seems I was wrong. Mea culpa.

 

[Politruk]

I can't speak for the President, but ask yourself what was happening in the Donbas just before the invasion?

Not preparations to invade Russia.