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your point of view is blindly trumpmerican, which makes you pro-russian appeasement.
For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine
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THAT is what concerns me. It's so blatant that it lends credence to the conspiracy theory of him being a real Manchurian candidate, but I don't think it's that at all. I suspect this whole approach boils down to Trump being infuriated with the way Biden and the Democrats used Uraine against him, and Zelensky and Ukraine were not astute enough regarding US internal politics to carefully cultivate both sides of the US domestic political equation. They should have hired Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson as consultants. Combine that with Trump being both pig-headed, ego-driven and buddies with Tucker Carlson.....
Now we just have to hope that the reality of Russian duplicity sinks in before he makes a bigger mistake than he already has.
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Not at all. The opportunity here is monumental. Both sides have suffered great losses and many believe we're at a crossroad where peace negotiations if conducted and facilitated by a strong nation could get the two parties to at least agree to a cease fire. Zelensky will be at the table and both can file their grievances with each other. The US is the only country that can facilitate such a negotiations. All this talk about Trump not abiding by the NATO treaty is hogwash. NATO is a treaty that is codified into law.
We're dealing with a country that has 5000+ nuclear warheads which has to be handled delicately. Putin is a murderer no doubt and holding him accountable for war crimes is fine, but in the real world he isn't going before the ICJ or ICC the anytime soon. Trump blusters a lot, I've learned to watch what he does not what he says. I don't believe most people where aware of how severe the sanctions were against Iran. Don't believe many people were aware of the battle for the Conoco oil fields. I believe Putin believes Trump is an unpredictable nutcase. That's a good thing.
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EU offers its own ‘win-win’ minerals deal to Ukraine
The European Union offered its own agreement on "critical materials" to Ukraine on Monday, just as U.S. President Donald Trump claimed Washington was close to inking a deal with Kyiv for the rights to its vast natural resources.Europe's Commissioner for Industrial Strategy Stéphane Séjourné said he'd pitched the rival proposal to Ukrainian officials he met in Kyiv during a visit by the European Commission to mark the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion. And he noted pointedly: "The added value Europe offers is that we will never demand a deal that's not mutually beneficial."
And there's one in your eye, Trump. Now we're into a bidding war.....
https://www.politico.eu/article/critical-minerals-rare-earths-deal-eu-not-donald-trump/
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47 has publicly stated that he's going to give Putin everything he wants.
There's nothing unpredictable about that
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Disclaimer: I copied and pasted. LOL
Note for Il74. Don't bother. I know what you're going to say. LOL multiple times.
(Actually) Russia is at it's Most Fragile, Right Now
By Benjamin Cook
Feb 25
The European military logistics and capability required to penetrate Russian lines and send them into chaos isn’t big. What it requires is ‘leadership’ - which is immense. Remember, the EU (1993) is a post-Soviet (1991) organization built to foster compromise, not leadership and determination.
Russia's position in its ongoing war in Ukraine exhibits significant fragility across multiple critical dimensions, including severe military setbacks, deepening economic pressures, worsening demographic crisis, and unsustainable equipment losses. Despite evidence of Russian resilience—such as limited economic adaptation and persistent territorial control—these strengths are increasingly overshadowed by systemic vulnerabilities. A modestly sized but well-organized military coalition could exploit Russia's thinly stretched lines, triggering a prolonged military crisis. Recent history has repeatedly shown Russia's weaknesses in responding swiftly and effectively to unexpected offensives or deep penetrations of its defensive lines.
I. Military Setbacks
● Stalled Advances: Recent reports indicate Russian military progress has dramatically slowed. In early 2025, Russian forces required nearly six days to conquer an area equivalent to Manhattan, a significant deceleration due to increased casualties, recruitment challenges, and logistical issues. (The Times, 2025) Gen Ben Hodges has pointed out many times that in March of last year Russia was only 60 miles outside of Pokrovsk. A year later they are not inside Pokrovsk.
● Equipment and Manpower Constraints: Analysts emphasize Russia’s incremental gains have come at immense costs, highlighting severe constraints in equipment and personnel. (The Times, 2025)
● Reliance on Civilian Vehicles: Due to substantial losses of military hardware—over 20,000 units since February 2022—Russian troops increasingly resort to civilian vehicles on the front lines, underscoring critical shortages. (The Insider, 2024) There are areas of the zero-line where all of the Russian military vehicles around are burned and destroyed. The only operational vehicles are civilian.
● Equipment Churn vs. Production: Russia struggles significantly to replenish military hardware, losing equipment faster than it can be repaired or manufactured. For example, annual production of infantry fighting vehicles (around 200 units per year) and limited artillery production facilities starkly contrast against thousands lost on the battlefield. (Institute for the Study of War, 2024)
II. Economic Strains
● Impact of High Interest Rates: Russia's central bank maintains a high benchmark interest rate of 21% to combat inflation. This strategy, while stabilizing the currency, has increased borrowing costs, spurring a 20% rise in corporate bankruptcies and exacerbating liquidity shortages across multiple sectors. (The Moscow Times, 2024; Reuters, 2025)
● Decline in Entrepreneurship: The ongoing war and economic downturn have resulted in Russia losing approximately 1.4 million small and medium enterprises (42%) over five years. This reduction significantly weakens long-term economic prospects. (Arxiv, 2023)
III. Demographic Crisis
● Population Decline Accelerated by War: Russia’s demographic issues, characterized by declining birth rates and an aging population, have sharply worsened due to heavy military casualties. Estimates suggest Russia may lose up to 1.8 million troops to achieve its strategic goals in Ukraine, disproportionately affecting the working-age male population. (Wikipedia, 2024)
● Impact on Future Generations: The ongoing conflict, casualties, and resulting economic uncertainties further depress birth rates, intensify emigration, and threaten long-term economic stability.
IV. Internal Dissent and Social Stability
● Emergence of Opposition Movements: Internal dissent grows as opposition groups, such as the Freedom of Russia Legion led by Maximilian Andronnikov, actively seek regime change. These groups amplify internal tensions and instability. (The Sun, 2024) Not to mention growing instances of mutiny and desertion at the company level.
● Propaganda and Public Sentiment: The introduction of new school textbooks justifying the invasion reflects government anxiety about internal opposition and reveals ongoing concerns over public loyalty and national morale. (Reuters, 2025)
V. Counterarguments Highlighting Russia's Resilience
● Economic Adaptability: Despite sanctions, Russia’s economy has demonstrated some resilience, largely through trade relations and support from non-Western countries, partially mitigating anticipated economic collapse. (Financial Times, 2025)
● Territorial Control: Russia maintains significant territorial holdings in Ukraine, providing strategic leverage for potential future negotiations and long-term conflict management. (The Times, 2025)
● Military Revitalization Efforts: Russia’s ongoing military reconstitution aims to rebuild capabilities substantially by 2030, reflecting a long-term strategy for continued conflict or deterrence. (Financial Times, 2025)
Recap and Analysis:
Even considering Russia's points of resilience, its overall strategic position remains profoundly fragile. A well-coordinated, modest-sized military coalition could effectively penetrate Russian defenses, causing long-term disruptions to its military operations. Europe must urgently confront this reality and significantly upgrade its defensive/offensive capabilities. Yet, European leadership has consistently failed to act decisively, instead relying on American security assurances. (This is not a peacekeeping force I am suggesting. This is a pacification force. Make no mistake, Europeans would be killing Russians in Ukraine.)
While JD Vance’s speech in Munich may have lacked "diplomatic nuance", one of his core arguments holds truth: Europe's strategic vulnerability stems significantly from self-inflicted policy choices. Germany's abandonment of nuclear energy in favor of geopolitically risky and environmentally dirtier energy sources exemplifies how social ideologies have severely compromised Europe's strategic security. Such policies have inadvertently signaled to Russia clear vulnerabilities—effectively serving as a "green light" for aggression. Combined with Europe's chronic underinvestment in defense, these policy missteps have made the continent dangerously dependent and vulnerable. (The entire EU structure is a problem.)
In conclusion, Russia’s position, although superficially resilient in certain respects, is fundamentally fragile. Europe's continued inaction exacerbates these vulnerabilities. It is imperative that Europe demonstrates the leadership and courage required to assume responsibility for its own defense and to mitigate ongoing threats from Russia. It's time for Europe to grow up. Defend itself. No matter what you think of Trump, if Europe is motivated to spend 3% of GDP on defense and comes to Ukraine's DIRECT aid, his ridiculous words and actions will have a positive outcome. The icing on the cake is that he is counting on Europe to fail. Make him wrong.
Link to the article - if you're at all interested in Ukraine, this is Tom Coopers substack - you can subscribe for free and he is REALLY worth following for his Ukraine updates.
https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/actually-russia-is-at-its-most-fragile
Note for Il74. Don't bother. I know what you're going to say. LOL multiple times.
(Actually) Russia is at it's Most Fragile, Right Now
By Benjamin Cook
Feb 25
The European military logistics and capability required to penetrate Russian lines and send them into chaos isn’t big. What it requires is ‘leadership’ - which is immense. Remember, the EU (1993) is a post-Soviet (1991) organization built to foster compromise, not leadership and determination.
Russia's position in its ongoing war in Ukraine exhibits significant fragility across multiple critical dimensions, including severe military setbacks, deepening economic pressures, worsening demographic crisis, and unsustainable equipment losses. Despite evidence of Russian resilience—such as limited economic adaptation and persistent territorial control—these strengths are increasingly overshadowed by systemic vulnerabilities. A modestly sized but well-organized military coalition could exploit Russia's thinly stretched lines, triggering a prolonged military crisis. Recent history has repeatedly shown Russia's weaknesses in responding swiftly and effectively to unexpected offensives or deep penetrations of its defensive lines.
I. Military Setbacks
● Stalled Advances: Recent reports indicate Russian military progress has dramatically slowed. In early 2025, Russian forces required nearly six days to conquer an area equivalent to Manhattan, a significant deceleration due to increased casualties, recruitment challenges, and logistical issues. (The Times, 2025) Gen Ben Hodges has pointed out many times that in March of last year Russia was only 60 miles outside of Pokrovsk. A year later they are not inside Pokrovsk.
● Equipment and Manpower Constraints: Analysts emphasize Russia’s incremental gains have come at immense costs, highlighting severe constraints in equipment and personnel. (The Times, 2025)
● Reliance on Civilian Vehicles: Due to substantial losses of military hardware—over 20,000 units since February 2022—Russian troops increasingly resort to civilian vehicles on the front lines, underscoring critical shortages. (The Insider, 2024) There are areas of the zero-line where all of the Russian military vehicles around are burned and destroyed. The only operational vehicles are civilian.
● Equipment Churn vs. Production: Russia struggles significantly to replenish military hardware, losing equipment faster than it can be repaired or manufactured. For example, annual production of infantry fighting vehicles (around 200 units per year) and limited artillery production facilities starkly contrast against thousands lost on the battlefield. (Institute for the Study of War, 2024)
II. Economic Strains
● Impact of High Interest Rates: Russia's central bank maintains a high benchmark interest rate of 21% to combat inflation. This strategy, while stabilizing the currency, has increased borrowing costs, spurring a 20% rise in corporate bankruptcies and exacerbating liquidity shortages across multiple sectors. (The Moscow Times, 2024; Reuters, 2025)
● Decline in Entrepreneurship: The ongoing war and economic downturn have resulted in Russia losing approximately 1.4 million small and medium enterprises (42%) over five years. This reduction significantly weakens long-term economic prospects. (Arxiv, 2023)
III. Demographic Crisis
● Population Decline Accelerated by War: Russia’s demographic issues, characterized by declining birth rates and an aging population, have sharply worsened due to heavy military casualties. Estimates suggest Russia may lose up to 1.8 million troops to achieve its strategic goals in Ukraine, disproportionately affecting the working-age male population. (Wikipedia, 2024)
● Impact on Future Generations: The ongoing conflict, casualties, and resulting economic uncertainties further depress birth rates, intensify emigration, and threaten long-term economic stability.
IV. Internal Dissent and Social Stability
● Emergence of Opposition Movements: Internal dissent grows as opposition groups, such as the Freedom of Russia Legion led by Maximilian Andronnikov, actively seek regime change. These groups amplify internal tensions and instability. (The Sun, 2024) Not to mention growing instances of mutiny and desertion at the company level.
● Propaganda and Public Sentiment: The introduction of new school textbooks justifying the invasion reflects government anxiety about internal opposition and reveals ongoing concerns over public loyalty and national morale. (Reuters, 2025)
V. Counterarguments Highlighting Russia's Resilience
● Economic Adaptability: Despite sanctions, Russia’s economy has demonstrated some resilience, largely through trade relations and support from non-Western countries, partially mitigating anticipated economic collapse. (Financial Times, 2025)
● Territorial Control: Russia maintains significant territorial holdings in Ukraine, providing strategic leverage for potential future negotiations and long-term conflict management. (The Times, 2025)
● Military Revitalization Efforts: Russia’s ongoing military reconstitution aims to rebuild capabilities substantially by 2030, reflecting a long-term strategy for continued conflict or deterrence. (Financial Times, 2025)
Recap and Analysis:
Even considering Russia's points of resilience, its overall strategic position remains profoundly fragile. A well-coordinated, modest-sized military coalition could effectively penetrate Russian defenses, causing long-term disruptions to its military operations. Europe must urgently confront this reality and significantly upgrade its defensive/offensive capabilities. Yet, European leadership has consistently failed to act decisively, instead relying on American security assurances. (This is not a peacekeeping force I am suggesting. This is a pacification force. Make no mistake, Europeans would be killing Russians in Ukraine.)
While JD Vance’s speech in Munich may have lacked "diplomatic nuance", one of his core arguments holds truth: Europe's strategic vulnerability stems significantly from self-inflicted policy choices. Germany's abandonment of nuclear energy in favor of geopolitically risky and environmentally dirtier energy sources exemplifies how social ideologies have severely compromised Europe's strategic security. Such policies have inadvertently signaled to Russia clear vulnerabilities—effectively serving as a "green light" for aggression. Combined with Europe's chronic underinvestment in defense, these policy missteps have made the continent dangerously dependent and vulnerable. (The entire EU structure is a problem.)
In conclusion, Russia’s position, although superficially resilient in certain respects, is fundamentally fragile. Europe's continued inaction exacerbates these vulnerabilities. It is imperative that Europe demonstrates the leadership and courage required to assume responsibility for its own defense and to mitigate ongoing threats from Russia. It's time for Europe to grow up. Defend itself. No matter what you think of Trump, if Europe is motivated to spend 3% of GDP on defense and comes to Ukraine's DIRECT aid, his ridiculous words and actions will have a positive outcome. The icing on the cake is that he is counting on Europe to fail. Make him wrong.
Link to the article - if you're at all interested in Ukraine, this is Tom Coopers substack - you can subscribe for free and he is REALLY worth following for his Ukraine updates.
https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/actually-russia-is-at-its-most-fragile
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Sadly. I have to agree. The only thing standing in his way is Zelensky, who is a REAL leader.
Who has the balls to go right up to the frontline time and again, and who has survived more assassination teams sent after him than probably any leader in the world
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47 has publicly defined Zelensky as the enemy of the US.
Nothing unpredictable there either
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Yep. He ain't going to do the right and honorable thing here. Or abide by the agreements the US signed in the past. We may disagree on a lot of other stuff but you're eching my thoughts here. Or I'm echoing yours. And I do believe we would find out a majority of Americans agree on this one.
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My only question is about where people here line up. Your position is clear.
Who here in the forum wants to align with Putin and Russia?
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I respectfully disagree. Before the invasion first began, when Russian troops amass divisions along the Ukraine border the US and NATO should have shown solidarity at that time in history. Should have warned Putin there will not be another incursion into Ukraine or you risk war!!!. 6 months prior to the invasion NATO forces should have gone into full deployment mode. One aspect of the invasion was Zelensky wasn't allowed to target cities in Russia, his hands were tied. If a war is unavoidable then both sides need to suffer but as usual, just like the annexation of Crimea, the invasion of the Donbas region, the response was minimal by the West, typical show of weakness.
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What Trump has done is ruffle some feathers. Germany has finally pulled their collective heads out of their asses and are finally realizing how far behind they are. Germany for years stuck a finger in the US 's eye, relying on our troop dispositions in their country. Now they want to create a new defense alliance. In my mind; fuck Germany! They were more interested in their own economic wellbeing than their national security or paying their fair share. They were content sitting under our umbrella. I'm waiting for the left to remind us that Germany was under a WWII mandate that restricted the size of their military. That changed when Germany joined NATO. They didn't reach their 2% contribution mandate till 2024, 2 years into the Ukraine war. WTF? They're the wealthiest country in the EU.
The Ukraine war doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Then there was the ' Budapest Memorandum' which was basically not worth the paper it was written on.
Ya wonder why the outrage today? Because the west failed to stand in solidarity way back when, Putin saw the weakness and moved into Ukraine. Putin did not fear NATO. Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan sent a message to Putin that we didn't have the intestinal fortitude for another conflict.
The West is now trying to make up for lost time. The Russians are weakening ( I agree with your narrative, I tip my hat off to your knowledge on the subject) But being wounded Putin will not allow a defeat. Trump is giving him an off ramp and I believe Putin will take it. What we do after the fact will be critical for the future of Ukraine. Putin may be just crazy enough to use tac nukes if he looses too much.
This is strictly my opinion.
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47 is capitulating to Putin and demonizing Zelensky. This isn't rocket science.
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President Biden offered a master class in how to deal with Russia. How not to be drawn into a European conflict. How to save America lives.
Like Reagan he out maneuvered Russia. He cost Putin soldiers, weapons, and time.. he exposed the Russian soldiers as not as capable as everyone thought.
It was expensive, but so is what Reagan did.
(Second F all of you for making me say nice things about Reagan!)
Like Reagan he out maneuvered Russia. He cost Putin soldiers, weapons, and time.. he exposed the Russian soldiers as not as capable as everyone thought.
It was expensive, but so is what Reagan did.
(Second F all of you for making me say nice things about Reagan!)
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Yup, if nothing else, it has shown us that Russian infantry tactics are basically the same as they were way back in World War 1: Full frontal infantry assault, even in the face of machine guns (World War 1), aerial bombardment (World War 2), landmines and snipers (Soviet Afghan invasion) and drone technology (Ukraine).
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Rada passes resolution on support for Zelensky and upcoming elections at second attempt
Kyiv • UNNFebruary 25 2025, 04:27 AM • 102692 views
The Verkhovna Rada supported the resolution on democracy in Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression by 268 votes. The document confirms Zelenskyy's legitimacy and the impossibility of elections until peace is established.
- The Verkhovna Rada emphasizes that it is Vladimir Putin who is responsible for the fact that it is currently impossible to organize free, transparent and democratic elections in Ukraine with the invitation of international observers, which would be recognized by the international community.
- The Parliament states that the martial law imposed in Ukraine in the context of the full-scale invasion of Russia does not allow for elections in accordance with the Constitution of Ukraine. At the same time, the Ukrainian people are united in their opinion that such elections should be held after the war is over.
- The VRU declares on behalf of the Ukrainian people that Ukraine, as a democratic country, as soon as comprehensive, just and sustainable peace is ensured on its territory, will, by decision of the Parliament of Ukraine, announce the presidential election and ensure that it is held in accordance with all international electoral standards.
- The Verkhovna Rada once again reminds that President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy was elected in free, transparent, democratic elections. His mandate is not questioned by the Ukrainian people and the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
- The Parliament of Ukraine emphasizes the need to comply with the principle of institutional continuity of power provided for by the laws of Ukraine, especially in the context of the legal regime of martial law, and emphasizes that President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy must fulfill his powers until the newly elected President of Ukraine takes office in accordance with part one of Article 108 of the Constitution of Ukraine.
- The VRU calls on the international community to join forces to achieve a common victory, end Russia's armed aggression against Ukraine and establish a comprehensive, just and sustainable peace for Ukraine. Only the establishment of a comprehensive, just and sustainable peace for Ukraine will allow to restore normal life in the country, an integral part of which will be the holding of elections in accordance with the Constitution and laws of Ukraine, in compliance with all international standards of a lawful democratic state.
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Collaborators, War Criminals and Occupiers Executed....
February 20 2025, 09:02 AM • 20772 views
In Berdiansk, a Renault Duster car carrying Yevheniy Bogdanov, deputy head of the occupation administration, exploded. He was responsible for finance and construction of fortifications in the occupied Zaporizhzhia region. During his stay in the occupied Ukrainian territories, Yevgeny Bogdanov repeatedly committed war crimes against Ukrainian citizens.
December 24 2024, 04:01 AM • 22462 views
In occupied Berdiansk, a car with the head of the occupation council Vasyl Nechet in it exploded. The victim was taken from the scene by an ambulance. Before the occupation of the city, Vasyl Nechet was the head of the Neftekhimik cultural center. After the occupation, he sided with the enemy and took an active part in the formation of the occupation authorities. He joined the ranks of United Russia and was appointed chairman of the occupation council. He is suspected by the National Police of Ukraine of committing a criminal offense under Part 5 of Article 111-1 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine - collaboration.
https://unn.ua/en/news/an-explosion-occurred-in-occupied-berdiansk-there-is-probably-an-arrival
Deputy Head of the city's occupation administration Yevhenii Bohdanov eliminated in Berdiansk - DIU
Kyiv • UNNFebruary 20 2025, 09:02 AM • 20772 views
In Berdiansk, a Renault Duster car carrying Yevheniy Bogdanov, deputy head of the occupation administration, exploded. He was responsible for finance and construction of fortifications in the occupied Zaporizhzhia region. During his stay in the occupied Ukrainian territories, Yevgeny Bogdanov repeatedly committed war crimes against Ukrainian citizens.
A car with the head of the occupation council was blown up in Berdiansk
Kyiv • UNNDecember 24 2024, 04:01 AM • 22462 views
In occupied Berdiansk, a car with the head of the occupation council Vasyl Nechet in it exploded. The victim was taken from the scene by an ambulance. Before the occupation of the city, Vasyl Nechet was the head of the Neftekhimik cultural center. After the occupation, he sided with the enemy and took an active part in the formation of the occupation authorities. He joined the ranks of United Russia and was appointed chairman of the occupation council. He is suspected by the National Police of Ukraine of committing a criminal offense under Part 5 of Article 111-1 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine - collaboration.
https://unn.ua/en/news/an-explosion-occurred-in-occupied-berdiansk-there-is-probably-an-arrival
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Trump: Main thing is to stop war, whether ceasefire or direct transition to agreement
US President Donald Trump emphasizes the need to stop the war in Ukraine, whether it is a ceasefire or a direct transition to an agreement."I think Russia, likewise, I've spoken to President Putin and my people are dealing with him constantly and his people in particular and they want to do something," Trump said.So many levels of crap in this. No, a ceasfire is NOT the main thing. The main thing is to defeat Russia and restore the 2014 border. Sure, Putin wants to "do something." What he wants is a ceasefire on his terms, so we can prepare for Round 3 and attack again. And Trump is intent on helping him.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1050821.html
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Trump is about to get the USA cut out from......
thats well over 1 million jobs...
All to save about 10 billion in scrap metal we have sitting in the desert and pull Putin's bacon out of the fire...
but winning. Thats some real 4D chess moves right there..
- the rare earth deal with ukraine
- trade with europe
- nato
- european bases
- rebuilding in ukraine contracts
- middle east arms sales
- asian arms sales
- aussie arms sales
- future F35 sales
- 800+ billion in future arms sales to the EU
thats well over 1 million jobs...
All to save about 10 billion in scrap metal we have sitting in the desert and pull Putin's bacon out of the fire...
but winning. Thats some real 4D chess moves right there..
Too fucking late you idiot....
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Ya stupid dunce, if you want to bring the war to an end you have to talk to both sides including the Russians. They are a nuclear force and the most powerful conventional force on the field. You're desire for nuclear war with the Russians and the potential destruction of Europe is sickening as well as stupid.
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We aren't talking to both sides. We are talking to Russia and capitulating to Russia.
Russia, our adversary, is the aggressor. Ukraine, our ally, is defending itself from the Russian invasion.
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang is rewriting history…again…
And just when it seemed like Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang was beginning to see the light…
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang 
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang (a MAGAt) is FINALLY catching up with the rest of the class (the decent, intelligent kids).
PROGRESS!!!
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang
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Rubio sold his soul.....
"End the war" has a new meaning thanks to Trump Push hard on your ally and make them surrender. And Trump's right: If Ukraine had surrendered right from the beginning without fighting, the war wouldn't happened .
"End the war" has a new meaning thanks to Trump Push hard on your ally and make them surrender. And Trump's right: If Ukraine had surrendered right from the beginning without fighting, the war wouldn't happened .
