Pronouns cost no money

[Politruk]

That's how you tell a limousine liberal from a real progressive -- what do they prioritize? If it's symbolic stuff that can be granted without threatening the incomes and comfort of the upper and upper-middle classes, fuck 'em.

 

[Politruk]

There is emotional satisfaction in tearing down Confederate monuments -- but that does nothing for black poverty, nothing to get any African-American a good job or an education.

 

[Politruk]

I believe in universal education and health care. Level the playing field.

See, those cost money.

 

[YDB95]

There is emotional satisfaction in tearing down Confederate monuments -- but that does nothing for black poverty, nothing to get any African-American a good job or an education.

It does send the right message, and in the long term it helps necessary cultural changes along. Imagine how much better racial relations - and the lot of Black Americans in general - could be if the romanticization of the Confederacy and the Lost Cause hadn't been allowed to fester for a hundred years after the Civil War. Better late than never.

 

[Politruk]

It does send the right message, and in the long term it helps necessary cultural changes along. Imagine how much better racial relations - and the lot of Black Americans in general - could be if the romanticization of the Confederacy and the Lost Cause hadn't been allowed to fester for a hundred years after the Civil War. Better late than never.

Granted, cultural fights matter. Referring to people with the pronouns of their own preference matters. It's just that fights of that kind are too often a distraction from more important things -- things that cost money, or at least involve its redistribution. The real enemy standing in the way of a good society is the plutocracy, not a bunch of poor and ignorant red-state bigots who would benefit from social democracy as much as POC would.

 

[Politruk]

This isn't a race war, it's a class war.

And Trump is on the side of the plutocracy, while posing as a working-class warrior, perpetuating the myth that the "elites" who rule America are overeducated bureaucrats instead of overprivileged businesscritters.

 

[YDB95]

Trump improved his voting numbers amongst black and Latino voters because he recognized a fundamental truth. This isn't a race war, it's a class war. Some people want to make you believe this is all about race. It is not.

While I agree in part with your second sentence, Trump did not "improve his voting numbers" among POC, so much as a lot of them didn't vote at all. Trump got the same relatively small number of POC who always vote Republican, and that made for a higher percentage than usual because it was a share of a smaller-than-usual number of votes.

 

[AlexBailey]

Pronouns?

Trans and gender nonconforming people will continue to exist no matter what their legal labels.

Want to call a trans woman “he”? You may be a selfish small minded fuck, but you still haven’t changed who they are.

There are some beautiful women out there who are going to be the same whether you call them ma’am or mister.

I think it may free up many people to just be who they are without worrying about how other people want to label them.

‘Euphoria’ star Hunter Schafer says passport gender marker change ‘doesn’t change anything about me or my transness’​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/entertainment/hunter-schafer-passport-gender-marker/index.html

 

[YDB95]

Trump will being peace to Ukraine,

By letting Putin do whatever the hell he wants? (Lest we forget, Trump literally said that once.)

 

[Politruk]

Trump will being peace to Ukraine, and fingers crossed, to Gaza too. He will do it for his ego. But I don't give a fuck because the net benefit to the world is enormous. Ideological purity needs to die in a fire

There will be no net benefit to the world if Crimea and Donbas are Russianized and the Gaza Strip depopulated.

 

[Politruk]

As to Donbas and Crimea being "Russianized", the most cursory research would tell you these are predominantly Russian speaking regions anyway.. Crimea is perfectly happy being a part of Russia. The Donbas region has been mired in a war since 2014 because Ukraine would not cede them autonomy or the even the right to speak their own language.

All the same, there will be no net benefit to the world if those territories remain under Russian rule. That would only embolden and encourage Russian irredentism -- an extremely dangerous thing in the long run -- why, there might be a war over Transnistria next!

 

[Politruk]

Just having his team talk to Russia after 3 years of a diplomatic freeze is momentous.

Not without Ukraine at the table, it isn't.

 

[Politruk]

Biden was fucking useless

He gave Ukraine armaments. That's not useless. What is Trump going to give Ukraine?

 

[Politruk]

A regime change operation was executed in 2014 to remove the democratically elected pro-neutrality candidate.

Lie. He was pro-Russian.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Pronouns cost no money and provide no value which explains why the fad has mostly faded away.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

He gave Ukraine armaments. That's not useless. What is Trump going to give Ukraine?

Hopefully a peaceful end to the war that provides lasting security for Ukraine and a US stake in its titanium, lithium and rare earth metals.

 

[Politruk]

Explain

Ukraine had to choose -- had to -- between aligning with Russia and aligning with Europe. Yanukovych went with Russia.

During Yanukovych's term he was accused of tightening of press restrictions and a renewed effort in the parliament to limit freedom of assembly. When young, Yanukovych was sentenced to three years because of theft, looting, and vandalism and later had his sentenced doubled.[44][45][46][47][48][49][50][51][52][53][54][55] One frequently-cited example of Yanukovych's alleged attempts to centralize power was the August 2011 arrest of Yulia Tymoshenko.[56][57] Other high-profile political opponents also came under criminal investigation since.[58][59][60][61] On October 11, 2011, a Ukrainian court sentenced Tymoshenko to seven years in prison after she was found guilty of abuse of office when brokering the 2009 gas deal with Russia.[62] The conviction was seen as "justice being applied selectively under political motivation" by the European Union and other international organizations.[63]

In November 2013, President Yanukovych did not sign the Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement and instead pursued closer ties with Russia.[64][65] This move sparked protests on the streets of Kyiv. Protesters set up camps in Maidan Nezalezhnosti (Independence Square),[66] and in December 2013 and January 2014 protesters started taking over various government buildings, first in Kyiv, and later in Western Ukraine.[67] Battles between protesters and police resulted in about eighty deaths in February 2014.[68][69]

Following the violence, the parliament turned against Yanukovych and on February 22, 2014, voted to remove him from power, and to free Yulia Tymoshenko from prison. The same day Yanukovych supporter Volodymyr Rybak resigned as speaker of the parliament, and was replaced by Tymoshenko loyalist Oleksandr Turchynov, who was subsequently installed as interim president.[70] Yanukovych fled Kyiv.[71][72]

 

[Politruk]

But, let's not get sidetracked from the thread topic -- which is the necessity of a class war in the United States.

 

[Politruk]

Zelensky has canceled elections.

The Constitution does not allow elections in wartime.

And we now know that at least half of the "aid" that went to Ukraine was siphoned off into corrupt enterprises.

How do you know that?

 

[Politruk]

Who pays you?

Not the Commies.