What the Nazi movement was really about

[Politruk]

As to why the Nazis were about power -- same review as post #19:

Fascism would not have been possible without Friedrich Nietzsche. There has been no lack of anti-theistic philosophers both before and after Nietzsche, but he is almost alone in honestly facing the consequences of living in a world in which everything is permitted. Most thinkers have sought to preserve some fragment of the intellectual structure that depended from the hypothesis of the Christian God, and so they appeal to reason or history or science. Nietzsche would have none of it. If the skies are really empty, then there are no imperatives. There is, however, life, which in the case of human beings expresses itself not just as biology but as the will. Now Nietzsche, unlike Schopenhauer and unlike many of his own followers, recognized the will is itself a composite entity. It is not a primary physical force, and it is not a god. It does, however, actually exist, and its exercise is all the meaning that life can ever have.

The proposition that the meaning of life is the exercise of the will leads to two kinds of conclusions. The most obvious, and the most popular, is the cult of cruelty. Naturally, the street-fighters who normally figure in the public activities of successful fascist parties are rarely well-read in the literature of philosophical nihilism. Nevertheless, even the nihilist violence of the German SA and the Italian "squadristi" chimes with high theory. Fascism promotes ruthlessness for the same reason that it promotes conspiracy theories: for a fascist, nothing is going to happen unless some will makes it happen. One suspects this consideration is also a factor in the usual fascist suspicion of free markets.

This "everything is permitted" and "nihilism" talk misinterprets Nietzsche, by the way. The Nietzschean Superman is a moral genius -- he has the courage and imagination to reject the slave-morality of Christianity without falling into the trap of a value-free nihilism; he is capable of formulating and living by a new morality. Now, when we look into the content of that morality, that's where it's fair to say that Nietzsche inspired the Nazis, his system of values being entirely masculine and aristocratic. On the other hand, it is worth noting that Nietzsche rejected antisemitism as vulgar and silly -- which is why he had a falling-out with the composer Wagner.

 

[Politruk]

Who is this "bobo" or "BB" or "bot," whom everyone is always citing as a byword for stupidity-and-dishonesty-even-by-PB-RW-standards?

No one knows?

 

[Politruk]

From Orwell's review of Mein Kampf:
"Suppose that Hitler's programme could be put into effect. What he envisages, a hundred years hence, is a continuous state of 250 million Germans with plenty of 'living room' (i.e. stretching to Afghanistan or there-abouts), a horrible brainless empire in which, essentially, nothing ever happens except the training of young men for war and the endless breeding of fresh cannon-fodder."

 

[Bray123]

Oh look another MORON who thinks Marxism is the only socialism.

What a fuck tard.

You are seriously under-educated.
Are you spoiling for another ass-whooping?

 

[melimelissa]

It was not really about the idea that dictatorship is better than democracy.

And, despite the name, it was not really about any kind of socialism.

And even its antisemitism and anti-Communism were incidental.

What it was really all about was, "Hooray for us! We're Germans! We're the best people in the world! The smartest, the bravest, the handsomest, the most culturally creative! We're so superior in both blood and culture that we have a right to do as we please to inferior foreigners!" It was about the most extreme form of nationalism conceivable.


See Nordicism.

So if you ever wonder why Trump's MAGA movement draws so many comparisons with Nazism -- it is because "America First!" -- however innocuous it might sound to you -- has disturbing associations and echoes to anyone with historical memory.

Some of the foreigners were,
Nationals of Germany too;
If they'd lived, they might even concur,
But a broom can sweep ash from a flue.

Méli.

 

[UltraChad]

Not a big student of history, are ya Chudwick? Jew want me to spell it out for you?

The previously invincible Imperial German Army got their asses kicked and were forced into an absolutely horrible armistice in 1918. The psyche of the German people was shattered. The oligarchs of industry needed a scapegoat, and sent out former corporal Adolf Hitler to field-test the demonization of various minorities. They were hoping to blame communists, but the wily Hitler quickly discovered that the country really tested well when he brought up "the Jews".

German identity rationalized their defeat with what became known as the "stabbed in the back mythos". The stab-in-the-back myth retconned the Imperial German Army did not lose World War I on the battlefield, but was instead betrayed by certain citizens on the home front – especially those dirty filthy Jews.

The "stabbed in the back" mythos has been extensively used to explain away military losses since then. Most recently, a purported "Korean-American REMF infantry soldier" using the callsign "BoBo" explained America's poor showing in the Middle East (Murican asses regularly kicked by an underpowered group of ragtag Afghanis) by invoking the "stabbed in the back" excuse. "We woulda coulda shoulda won but politicians in Washington made us abide by pesky "rules of engagement" and "Geneva Conventions" and all that bullshit."

"BoBo" later sustained serious injuries when a number of plastic fleschettes penetrated his buttocks and caused extensive brain damage (Yeah, I dunno, that sounded sus to be too) which he also blamed on rules of engagement.

Trump's new Secretary of Defense, alcoholic Pete Hegseth, has vowed to "never again" abide by the rules of warfare.

OH look......doing all we can to avoid the "why" part of the ideological core of Nazism to scream "but BUTT....BUUUTT!!! .....WAIST AND BOBO!!! I'M TRAUMATIZED AND NEED THERAPY BIGLY BUT I'M ON A PORN BOARD INSTEAD!!! "

I WONDER WHY????

Good job fuckwit.

 

[UltraChad]

There is also such thing as left-populism

There is just populism. And you guys aren't it right now, cry more.

It is a very bad thing based on its track record. E.g., when the Austro-Hungarian Empire broke up, none of its non-German nations was better off independent, quite the reverse.

Yes they are. "Better off" doesn't mean turning into a leftist shit hole. LOL

Nazi nationalism derived from the Volkisch movement:

And they almost beat the entire worlds ass with it.

Certainly could have taken Europe with it, none of the lefty pussies who were there in Europe at the time could stand against it.

THEY STILL CAN'T!!! The dipshit leftoid Europeans are incapable of protecting themselves or policing their own communities.

 

[UltraChad]

No, I equate flattening the socioeconomic pyramid with socialism.

Thanks for proving my point. That's not socialism, that's Marxism.

Marxism is concerned with flattening the socioeconomic pyramid. Socialism has nothing to do with that.

You are the confused one here.

There are non-Marxist form of socialism -- but Nazism is not one of them

YES!!! And no....

Nazism is one of them because it collectivizes the means of production. Just not for the proletariat...

It's was socialist, just not Marxist.

 

[UltraChad]

You are seriously under-educated.
Are you spoiling for another ass-whooping?

You're not capable of dishing one out. And being brain washed leftist doesn't make you educated.

 

[UltraChad]

As to why the Nazis were about power --

Same as the communist. They wanted the control.

Without their control reality would continue to shit on their delusional leftist ideologies.

Same as it ever was.

 

[LLCox]

So if you ever wonder why Trump's MAGA movement draws so many comparisons with Nazism -- it is because "America First!" -- however innocuous it might sound to you -- has disturbing associations and echoes to anyone with historical memory.

 

[UltraChad]

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FEE FEES!!!! LOL

 

[LLCox]

FEE FEES!!!! LOL

Might as well get used to it, son.

 

[Bray123]

FEE FEES!!!! LOL

Another highly educated comment.

 

[Bray123]

I've posted this before, a description of a politician and his actions of the last 100 years. The question is, who?

1. Create a crisis.​
2. Use mass media to project your own solution.​
3. Use inflammatory language in mass rallies.​
4. Blame immigrants for imaginary problems.​
5. Encourage racist rhetoric and demonize opponents.​
6. Use simplistic language to appeal to the simplest of supporters.​
7. Appoint loyalist judges.​
8. Undermine elections.​
9. Popularise the term 'Lying Press' to be used whenever an unfavorable article is published.​
10. Make the rule of law irrelevant.​
11. Accuse the opposition of doing what you just did.​
12. Repeat lies endlessly until nobody bothers to contest them and they become fact.​
13. Approve acts of violence against opponents.​
14. Encourage supporters to invade and damage the principal government building.​
15. Incite mob to kill political opponents (including those who had previously been supporters).​
16. Abandon mob to their fate and rule by Executive Order.​
17. Delegate powers to senior staff placed in conflicting positions (including multiple heads of the same department).​
18. Retire to leisure facility and take little interest in actual government.​
19. Marry a model.​
20. When the going gets tough, hide in a bunker.​
21. Push the surrender of part of an independent nation to an invading country in return for personal profit.​
22. Troublemakers banished from vicinity of his presence.​
23. Get presented to the public as if a film star or royalty.​

 

[LLCox]

I've posted this before, a description of a politician and his actions of the last 100 years. The question is, who?

1. Create a crisis.​
2. Use mass media to project your own solution.​
3. Use inflammatory language in mass rallies.​
4. Blame immigrants for imaginary problems.​
5. Encourage racist rhetoric and demonize opponents.​
6. Use simplistic language to appeal to the simplest of supporters.​
7. Appoint loyalist judges.​
8. Undermine elections.​
9. Popularise the term 'Lying Press' to be used whenever an unfavorable article is published.​
10. Make the rule of law irrelevant.​
11. Accuse the opposition of doing what you just did.​
12. Repeat lies endlessly until nobody bothers to contest them and they become fact.​
13. Approve acts of violence against opponents.​
14. Encourage supporters to invade and damage the principal government building.​
15. Incite mob to kill political opponents (including those who had previously been supporters).​
16. Abandon mob to their fate and rule by Executive Order.​
17. Delegate powers to senior staff placed in conflicting positions (including multiple heads of the same department).​
18. Retire to leisure facility and take little interest in actual government.​
19. Marry a model.​
20. When the going gets tough, hide in a bunker.​
21. Push the surrender of part of an independent nation to an invading country in return for personal profit.​
22. Troublemakers banished from vicinity of his presence.​
23. Get presented to the public as if a film star or royalty.​

Jack boots and dusters

 

[lovecraft68]

Sorry, dipshit, but national pride and wanting to take care of your own before others isn't being a Nazi. I guess the Latino voters must be Nazi's too seeing they support America, and you don't.

The left-so appropriate to the conversation-has taken every single page out of the Nazi playbook, and that was never demonstrated better than in 2021 with the vaccine and leftists insisting unvaxed people should be put into camps. I wonder, would there have been 'showers'? Hmm....

No, your kind are the fascists and the Nazis and its becoming clearer by the day as people on the left continue to tell people to disown their family, to attack people, to fire them, to ruin their lives over differences in political ideology. You know, exactly what Hitler did to the Jews?

Attacking Christians, attacking everyone and calling them racists and sexists when it's your side that exhibits every bit of racism and sexism you try to project onto others while defending sexual predators and pedophiles and shitting all over free speech and women's rights and all your other lies.

The democratic party are the fourth Reich and you've been happily goosestepping for years.

You're a hate mongering, fear mongering woman hating, god hating, law hating, American hating, free speech hating, child hating, family hating piece of trash, just like the rest of your kind.

Sucks this is the net because I would love to see you sling your bullshit to someone's face. But then again the Nazi's were cowards who attacked helpless people in packs only, so I'm not surprised you're a keyboard cunt.

 

[UltraChad]

Might as well get used to it, son.

Got used to whining a long time ago. It's amusing.

Another highly educated comment.

Facts are facts.

I've posted this before, a description of a politician and his actions of the last 100 years. The question is, who?

1. Create a crisis.​
2. Use mass media to project your own solution.​
3. Use inflammatory language in mass rallies.​
4. Blame immigrants for imaginary problems.​
5. Encourage racist rhetoric and demonize opponents.​
6. Use simplistic language to appeal to the simplest of supporters.​
7. Appoint loyalist judges.​
8. Undermine elections.​
9. Popularise the term 'Lying Press' to be used whenever an unfavorable article is published.​
10. Make the rule of law irrelevant.​
11. Accuse the opposition of doing what you just did.​
12. Repeat lies endlessly until nobody bothers to contest them and they become fact.​
13. Approve acts of violence against opponents.​
14. Encourage supporters to invade and damage the principal government building.​
15. Incite mob to kill political opponents (including those who had previously been supporters).​
16. Abandon mob to their fate and rule by Executive Order.​
17. Delegate powers to senior staff placed in conflicting positions (including multiple heads of the same department).​
18. Retire to leisure facility and take little interest in actual government.​
19. Marry a model.​
20. When the going gets tough, hide in a bunker.​
21. Push the surrender of part of an independent nation to an invading country in return for personal profit.​
22. Troublemakers banished from vicinity of his presence.​
23. Get presented to the public as if a film star or royalty.​

OBAMA!!!

 

[lovecraft68]

 

[LLCox]

 

[lovecraft68]

See this is what happens when you libtards try to make a big deal out of something that isn't there. We go out and find your idols doing the same thing, except we didn't think anything of it, but if you want to Fuck around, then find out.

 

[LLCox]

 

[lovecraft68]

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That makes no sense in or out of this conversation.

This is the best you can do, just be a moron.

"I know you are but what am I?'

Get off the playground.

Shit, sorry, the left loves the playground, it has little kids on it they can groom.

 

[UltraChad]

That makes no sense in or out of this conversation.

This is the best you can do, just be a moron.

Not surprised.

Elon betrayed them, he wanted progress without the Democrat totalitarianism....how dare he!!!

 

[LLCox]