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Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense

I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread and I'm not willing to scroll back continually on a day when Lace is shitposting like crazy, but Pete Hegseth was confirmed by the absolute slimmest of margins 51-50 today in the Senate. JD Vance was helicoptered in to cast the tie breaker vote.

CNN reported..
Vice President JD Vance cast the 51-50 tie-breaking vote after former GOP Leader Mitch McConnell and GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine joined Democrats to oppose Hegseth’s nomination. It was just the second time in history that a vice president has broken a tie for a Cabinet nominee – the other being then-Vice President Mike Pence for Betsy DeVos’ 2017 confirmation to lead the Education Department.
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Hegseth becomes the first alcoholic to be confirmed as Secretary of Defense.
The Lincoln Project's chairman and political columnist George Conway suggested that every red-blooded American send a bottle of champagne to Secretary Hegseth's office.

(Hegseth is reportedly not a "champagne snob", so a bottle of Andre should suffice. It is doubtful he could tell the difference in any event after, say, bottle number three of his nightly intake)

Hegseth is widely expected to announce his new retention policy essentially targeting women serving in the military as "fair game" for male soldier predators, in an effort to significantly lower the percentage of women in the military. He has signaled a desire to work with the military supply chain to remove birth control from the PX system and military base pharmacies.
 
Hegseth has got so much shit to clean out - the Augean Stables for real....

This is clear insubordination. They know exactly what they’re doing in pretending that Trump has ordered them not to teach recruits about the Tuskegee airmen. They know it’s a lie and they’ve passed it on to the media knowing the media will eagerly repeat the lie. Hegseth needs to act immediately and aggressively to punish the chain of command that allowed this open subversion and subordination to take place. This is called "malicious compliance," deliberately subverting an order by giving it the worst and most twisted reading.

Need to find out who did this and fire whoever is responsible, together with everyone in the chain of command.

From the reports coming out, there's a LOT of rot in the Air Force to be excised. Hegseth needs to start at the top and work his way down.

Obeying Trump order, Air Force will stop teaching recruits about Tuskegee Airmen
https://www.expressnews.com/news/ar...ow&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com
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Chernosoth said:
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Alkies are as common as bribes in DC. He's definitely not the first.
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I'm old enough to remember when Congressman Wilbur Mills, the chairman of the powerful House Ways And Means committee, was discovered cavorting drunkenly in a Washington fountain with a stripper named Fanny Foxe after being pulled over for driving without his car headlights on at 4 a.m.

He actually survived that scandal until he did virtually the same damned thing the next month at a strip club. Then he opted not to run for re-election and checked himself into an alcoholic sanitarium. I remember being surprised that his wife checked herself in as well. No word on whatever happened to Fanny Foxe.

Mills is remembered today for his drunken shenanigans but he was one of the prime authors of both the original Medicare legislation and the Interstate Highway System (two very "socialist" programs, y'know).

Edit: Wikipedia to teh rescue. Foxe sure had an interesting life! She was a pre-med student turned stripper when she met and married a strip club pianist. She and her husband divorced but still lived together (he was a stay-at-home dad for their three kids). They lived in the same condo building as Wilbur Mills and his wife and the four of themplayed cards together (!!!). She got pregnant by Mills and had an abortion to "protect his reputation". The publicity from her arrest quintupled her stripping booking fees. She married her business manager, got a bachelors and masters degree, and spent her later years as a divemaster in the Mexican tourist town of Cozumel. She died in her 80s a few years back. Whew!
 
When President Trump rolled out his earth-shattering executive order that forbade DEI throughout the federal government, he anticipated that the forces of the "resistance" would work behind the scenes to avoid obeying. He knew they would rename organizations and hide the DEI commandos in other positions so the whole hideous mess could be reassembled, like Frankenstein's monster, at a future date. That is why the Office of Personnel Management required all agency heads to send that memo to every employee. As this order affects government contractors as well as federal agencies, we've seen some scurrying around on the dark edge of academia to avoid compliance.

Unfortunately, it seems like the Air Force may have decided it was not covered. There is evidence of efforts by some USAF units to ignore the executive order. This is an example from Minot (North Dakota) Air Force Base. Here, you have a memo that laughs at the executive order and clearly states they have renamed the office. Luke (Arizona) AFB did much the same and the US Air Force Academy has rebranded its DEI program as "Dignity Respect and Leadership" and is continuing on. Removing this garbage from the military—and I'm under no illusion that the Air Force is unique in having commands that are surreptitiously telling the Commander-in-Chief to get lost—will require diligent effort and ruthlessness. Anyone involved in rebranding USAF DEI programs must be terminated if civilian or administratively separated if military. What we are seeing here is really nothing less than a mutiny.

Schlichter's recommendations below are under ambitious. Hegseth needs to have some trustworthy JAGs standing by, along with MPs to arrest some of them for mutiny. Have the Old Guard put up some tents and wire them in on Ft. Myer. Arrest the guilty bastards and leave them out in the cold. And remember, mutiny is the only article in UCMJ that doesn't just authorize summary execution; to suppress a mutiny, if necessary, it demands it. Arrest followed by court-martial followed by execution for mutiny.

Current JCS and Milley's replacement, AF General Charles Q Brown championed DEI and anti-white racism while head of the Air Force. He published a blatantly racist, quota-based personnel promotion document, while presiding over tanking recruiting and military readiness numbers. He needs to be axed on Monday.

https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/0...t-the-commander-in-chief-has-ordered-n2184765

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Most of the rank and file had a simple metric we lived by. If your commander (or anyone really) didn’t have a beer with you. They were suspect. It worked out time and time again…
 
In 1940 Churchill appointed a Newspaper Baron, Max Aitken (Lord Beaverbrook) firstly as Minister of aircraft production and later Minister of Supply. He had absolutely no industrial or military experience whatsoever, but turned out to be the most brilliant appointment that could have been made . He was utterly ruthless, frequently exceeded his authority, offended every senior military man he ever met, and within 18 months at the end of the Battle of Britain the Brits were producing aircraft at twice the rate of the Germans.

Unqualified people by (lack of) experience have the advantage of owing nothing to the people and institutions they work with and given sufficient drive can frequently do a good job.
 
I think Hegseth is out of his depth. However, in saying that, I would give him a chance.

I heard, secondhand through another military veteran, (a former navy officer, who heads up an anti-piracy think tank) that when he briefed Austin two years ago, he was prepared, knew his shit and had obviously done his homework.

He had the white paper underlined and highlighted. He’d done his homework. You might not have agreed with his policies, but he was extremely well prepared. Asked good questions and was very pointed with his time and excellent questions.

My friend is pretty conservative, but was quite impressed.

Like I said, I would give Hegseth a chance and see where it goes.
 
ChloeTzang said:
Schlichter's recommendations below are under ambitious. Hegseth needs to have some trustworthy JAGs standing by, along with MPs to arrest some of them for mutiny. Have the Old Guard put up some tents and wire them in on Ft. Myer. Arrest the guilty bastards and leave them out in the cold. And remember, mutiny is the only article in UCMJ that doesn't just authorize summary execution; to suppress a mutiny, if necessary, it demands it. Arrest followed by court-martial followed by execution for mutiny.
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Absolutely. Make heads roll, literally.
 
Wonderer67 said:
I think Hegseth is out of his depth. However, in saying that, I would give him a chance.

I heard, secondhand through another military veteran, (a former navy officer, who heads up an anti-piracy think tank) that when he briefed Austin two years ago, he was prepared, knew his shit and had obviously done his homework.

He had the white paper underlined and highlighted. He’d done his homework. You might not have agreed with his policies, but he was extremely well prepared. Asked good questions and was very pointed with his time and excellent questions.

My friend is pretty conservative, but was quite impressed.

Like I said, I would give Hegseth a chance and see where it goes.
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The man advocated a return to segregated Army units in the first chapter of his latest book.

He is supremely unqualified to lead the world's most lethal military force.

And that's not even considering his huge daily consumption of alcohol.

He is a foppish military dilletante and has no business telling military professionals what to do.
 
Wonderer67 said:
I think Hegseth is out of his depth. However, in saying that, I would give him a chance.

I heard, secondhand through another military veteran, (a former navy officer, who heads up an anti-piracy think tank) that when he briefed Austin two years ago, he was prepared, knew his shit and had obviously done his homework.

He had the white paper underlined and highlighted. He’d done his homework. You might not have agreed with his policies, but he was extremely well prepared. Asked good questions and was very pointed with his time and excellent questions.

My friend is pretty conservative, but was quite impressed.

Like I said, I would give Hegseth a chance and see where it goes.
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Yep. He graduated from Princeton and has a Masters from Harvard. He worked as a capital markets analyst at Bear Stearns and that's no job for dummies. He was Major in the Army and that takes some doing too. My husband was a Captain by time he got out and it's a tough job. Making Major is nothing to be sneezed at. You need to know your stuff. Ten years with Fox News has kept him in the spotlight and in front of people.

He's qualified, smart and conscientious.

As for drinking, which some here have snarked about, if you haven't been in the military, basically, STFU.

I don't think the media or the DC intelligentsia realize that to a lot of veterans, the fact that Pete Hegseth developed a drinking problem after coming home from the GWOT, and then BEAT that drinking problem, is a huge PLUS and is in no way a negative. Most veterans know too friends who came home from the wars with demons they could not defeat, who descended into substance abuse and could not get out--and then some of whom even took their own lives. My husband volunteers with an organization that helps veterans deal with this stuff.

Pete Hegseth understands what our military adventurism means in a fundamental way that the Liz Warrens and Mitch McConnell's (and most of you, too) of the world will NEVER get. Pete has been there, but beat it. Neither does he have any ties to the MIC, unlike Austin and pretty much all his predecessors. THAT is an even better thing. He's focused on the mission and the people, NOT where is next grift is coming from. He gave up a few million bucks a year to take this job - and you can't say that for Austin or many of his predecessors either.

Something else to consider is that he’s a blend of the 2 big archetypes you see in the military, which are in a lot of ways polar opposites . He’s both a rough around the edges grunt AND a polished “professional” with an impressive academic pedigree. He’s the guy that would be equally at home hanging out in the barracks with the boys on the weekend or discussing the inner workings of strategy and policy in the Pentagon.

He's the right man for the job.
 
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ChloeTzang said:
Yep. He graduated from Princeton and has a Masters from Harvard. He worked as a capital markets analyst at Bear Stearns and that's no job for dummies. He was Major in the Army and that takes some doing too. My husband was a Captain by time he got out and it's a tough job. Making Major is nothing to be sneezed at. You need to know your stuff. Ten years with Fox News has kept him in the spotlight and in front of people.

He's qualified, smart and conscientious.

As for drinking, which some here have snarked about, if you haven't been in the military, basically, STFU.
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I served in the military, Chloe, and Hegseth's drinking was far in excess of 99% of the heavy drinkers I knew when I served.

So you'll have to forgive me if I opt out of your request to STFU. Or don't forgive me, I don't care either way.

Here's a disturbing account of Hegseth's drinking adventures (it appears that Hegseth was continually drunk between 2013 and 2015.)

Where and when did you meet your husband? Did his drinking increase the second time he got passed over for Major? You seem to be the sort of officer's wife who proudly flouted her husband's rank, saw a lot of that in the service. "I am COMPANY COMMANDER'S WIFE" and all that. They probably hated seeing you coming at the PX.

I'm asking because the officer attrition rates during major actions in Iraq and Afghanistan were very very high. West Pointers recognized they were in a bone-grinding war of attrition and opted to punch out the moment their five year service commitment was up.

This had the net effect of marginable officers who would normally be passed over for promotion being bumped up in rank to fill an open billet (Majors aren't "hired off the streets" as you well know).

Same thing happened in Vietnam btw.

Pete Hegseth is, like your husband, not qualified to lead anything larger than a company.
 
RobDownSouth said:
I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread and I'm not willing to scroll back continually on a day when Lace is shitposting like crazy, but Pete Hegseth was confirmed by the absolute slimmest of margins 51-50 today in the Senate. JD Vance was helicoptered in to cast the tie breaker vote.
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He was confirmed by the majority.
 
Rightguide said:
He was confirmed by the majority.
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Yes, 51-50 is a majority, albeit the slimmest possible majority. Your grasp of math is getting better!

Three Republican Senators voted against him (Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine, it seems they don't approve of workplace sexual predators, and Mitch McConnell of Kentucky).

NC Senator Thom Tillis also swore he'd vote against Pete Hegseth, but after seeing the voting totals realized that HE would share the brunt of the MAGA wrath for Hegseth's defeat so he tucked his tail and voted in favor of Hegseth.
 
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