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Putin's got his warning....."make a deal"....or else
For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine
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lmfao.......for one who's on the right side of this war, how many excuses are you now going to make for Trump failing to end the conflict?
So after Putin ignores this, will Trump call and beg him to end it, similar to how he did with Enrique Pena Nieto?
Says, Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang, the PB’s biggest slurper of dangerous, psychotic racists, fascists, and bigots, like President Musk (and DonOld)…
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I saw NOTHING in there about MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE if Putin / Russia doesn’t make a "deal". (A "deal" in President Musk’s (and DonOld’s) traitorous minds would be total capitulation to Putin’s demands)
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Well, I know where there were 12 - 4 have been sold and 8 are "under offer" and have been for months....hmmmmmmm
https://tanks-alot.co.uk/product/gvozdika-2s1/
https://tanks-alot.co.uk/product/gvozdika-2s1/
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As Trump’s team prepared to take over diplomacy, his campaign’s “24-hour peace” pledge evolved into a more calculated timeline. This significant extension reflects what experts see as a growing recognition of the war’s complexities within Trump’s circle.....
Good article
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/01/22/reality-dawns-trumps-24h-ukraine-vows-meet-moscow/
Good article
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/01/22/reality-dawns-trumps-24h-ukraine-vows-meet-moscow/
Translation of Chloe “Chicongo”Tzang’s gaslighting:
President Musk (and DonOld) LIED about ending the war in Ukraine,
The results from the Gaza ceasefire will be faaaaar less than optimal for the Israelis and "Palestinians" under President Musk (and DonOld) as well.
Hope that ^ helps.
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Translation of Chloe “Chicongo”Tzang’s gaslighting:
President Musk (and DonOld) LIED about ending the war in Ukraine,
The results from the Gaza ceasefire will be faaaaar less than optimal for the Israelis and "Palestinians" under President Musk (and DonOld) as well.
Hope that ^ helps.
LOL. I don't disagree, Laz. Except for the gaslighting. It's the Art of the Deal.
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Chloe “Chicongo” Tzamg offers a sugarcoated explanation of President Musk’s (and DonOld’s) LIES and FAILURES involving the war in Ukraine, and then Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang pretends it isn’t gaslighting.
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Funny, everyone thought Trump was putins bitch....
Sucks eating crow, eh?
Sucks eating crow, eh?
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang can’t get anything right:
DonOld was / is Putin’s orange sock puppet - but now Putin has to share his orange sock puppet with President Musk.
Hope that helps
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You're a one trick pony, Laz. LOL. You make my opinionated rants look positively calm and rational. LOL again
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang can’t get anything right:
DonOld was / is Putin’s orange sock puppet - but now Putin has to share his orange sock puppet with President Musk.
Hope that helps
Remember that book was written by a man whose business ventures usually failed.
We still have no reason to think Trump is not Putin's bitch.
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Just some of the items that Biden blocked that are surplus, could go tomorrow, and could help end the war.. and Europe has just offered to cover the cost of Arming Ukraine from the US defense industrial base.
Biden would not let Ukraine even buy them with their own money...not anything on this entire list. In fact, the Biden Admin openly prosecuted people that gave helicopters to alleged "Ally" Ukraine. Biden did NOT consider Ukraine an ally. There was the case of a US sniper rifle donated to Ukraine, Biden's justice prosecuted THAT as well.
300 avengers (air defense)
1-2 million mortar rounds
long range atacms
200+ UH60 helos
400 older bradleys
2000 surplus hmmwvs at auction
m198 155 cannon
1000+ M1s
C130s
40+ aircraft from afg that are sitting in storage in AZ...
MD530 attack helos, other aircraft.
bell 212 fleet that is being retired from state department and USAF
A10s
older CH47s
500,000 M16s and M4s from the USMC and army turned in.
20-30,000 NVGs that were scrapped pvs-7D
155 smoke ammo
honest john rocket components
Dozens of F-16s
Biden would not let Ukraine even buy them with their own money...not anything on this entire list. In fact, the Biden Admin openly prosecuted people that gave helicopters to alleged "Ally" Ukraine. Biden did NOT consider Ukraine an ally. There was the case of a US sniper rifle donated to Ukraine, Biden's justice prosecuted THAT as well.
300 avengers (air defense)
1-2 million mortar rounds
long range atacms
200+ UH60 helos
400 older bradleys
2000 surplus hmmwvs at auction
m198 155 cannon
1000+ M1s
C130s
40+ aircraft from afg that are sitting in storage in AZ...
MD530 attack helos, other aircraft.
bell 212 fleet that is being retired from state department and USAF
A10s
older CH47s
500,000 M16s and M4s from the USMC and army turned in.
20-30,000 NVGs that were scrapped pvs-7D
155 smoke ammo
honest john rocket components
Dozens of F-16s
Martin Sheen.
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang - “Price check on aisle 13”.
President Biden had to fight the MAGAt Republicans tooth and nail on funding for Ukraine, but, sure, Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang’s wishlist would have sailed right through…
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Well now, that was an extremely interesting, if depressing, read.
Russia as a country appears to have played the Trump team like a fiddle.
Putin took all of Trump's calls during the 2024 presidential campaign, lulling Trump into a false sense of security that they could "do a deal". Russia basically had two major demands, Ukraine will have their NATO application rejected AND Russia gets to keep all territory conquered to date. Trump's team immediately thought that was agreeable, seemingly incapable or unwilling to understand that Ukraine would never accept those terms.
After the election, prior to inauguration, Trump's team began to get intelligence briefing and things started to go downhill very quickly. Trump was still oblivious to reality though, because he and Putin had a "friendship". Trump honestly thought he could bypass all that unnecessary State Department bullshit because he (Trump) knew how to make a fucking deal, dammit.
So Trump simply picked up the phone and.....
.....Putin now refused to take Trump's phone call.
Evidently this was a first. Trump's team realized there was no way in hell an agreement could be reached "on Day One" so the spin machine sprang belatedly into action. Trump's Special Envoy to the Ukraine estimated it would take an intensive "100 day negotiation", State department professionals whispered "Six months minimum" and poor little Marco Rubio took a lot of heat as Secretary of State for refusing to commit to ANY line-in-the-sand timeline.
Then the other shoe dropped as sources in the Kremlin leaked that there were actually now ADDITIONAL "non-negotiable" demands by Russia as a condition of cease-fire, the terms have changed since Joe Biden is no longer president.
In addition to the two non-negotiables above, there were now these "poison pills" added to the existing conditions to really destabilize Ukraine.
1. The entire Ukraine executive branch must step down (in the name of "deNazification").
2. Complete dismantling of the Ukraine military (hey they got Ukraine to give up their nukes for a sack of magic beans years ago)
3. Removing that God damned state-of-the-art NATO Air Defense Artillery system from the eastern edge of Poland (I wrote about this little gem last week)
4. oh, and now Russia is demanding that Ukraine unilaterally cede land in the southern and eastern territories in Ukraine, that Russia has held no interest in before now, and has not been subjected to any warfare campaigns.
Trump blinked.
He asked..."and if I do agree to all of these terms....what do I get in return?".
Putin, in his best Michael Corleone impression, stuck the stiletto into Trump's girthy ribcage, "Nothing. We give you nothing".
I think this was the point when Trump realized how absolutely fucked his negotiating position was. Since this deal was rapidly wafting the stink of failure, Trump handed it over to Little Marco and the State Department to let them take the blame for failure.
Trump had to rewrite a portion of his Golden Age In America inauguration rant to talk bewilderedly about how he didn't understand why Putin all of a sudden wasn't willing to come to the negotiating table.
Not only that, but he's not offering the United States ANYTHING! Trump was confused and hurt by this betrayal of one of the few men in the world he openly admired.
Putin was playing chess all along while Trump thought they were playing checkers.
Checkmate, dotard!
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