For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Lazaran]

LOL. You're not going to change, are you, Laz? Ah well, you support Ukraine so I'm sure your heart is in the right place, even if you come across as a little, you know, "special," at times. I shall be nice, tho, and simply do the Christian thing, and turn the other cheek, because I kind of like you....you remind me of one of my granddad's in a bad mood - you need a little pampering and attention and a nice hot coffee and some homemade chocolate cake to cheer you up

...and if it helps you feel a little better, feel free to continue to dig at me. I like to think I have helped someone in need.

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Chloe “ Chicongo “ Tzang " thinks" I’m joking…



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[ChloeTzang]

Chloe “ Chicongo “ Tzang " thinks" I’m joking…

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

Ohhhhh, Laz, I'm sure you're serious, but that's what happens when you're older and out of sorts. A little cantankerous and argumentative for the sake of arguing. Don't worry about it. I enjoy your posts, and really, I don't take offense. I understand. You really do remind me of my granddads.

Just keep posting the way you do and don't mind me. LOL. I work with a lot of seniors in healthcare and I enjoy it, cranky, irritable and everything. Big hug!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Four Russian oil depots are currently on fire. Simultaneously. No doubt more will join them shortly

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

January 20th - Today is the Day of Remembrance and Honor of the "Cyborgs", Defenders of Donetsk Airport.

"Cyborgs withstood, concrete could not withstand." For 242 days in 2014, Ukrainian warriors defended Donetsk Airport.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Multiple drone strikes targeted Aircraft manufacturing plant 22 in Kazan, the capital of Russia’s Tatarstan republic, leading to the closure of three regional airports and the evacuation of residents in affected areas. The primary target appears to be the Gorbunov Kazan Aviation Plant, a strategic military-industrial facility. The facility produces and repairs strategic Tu-160 missile carriers and Tu-22M3 bombers. Tatarstan officials maintain that all drones targeting their region were “neutralized” with no casualties or structural damage.

Ukrainian expert reminded that the city is home to several important aviation enterprises that play a key role in Russia's military-industrial complex. Among them is the Kazan Aviation Plant, named after S.P. Gorbunov, which is involved in the production of strategic bombers Tu-22M3 and Tu-160, as well as their modernization and repair. "The plant is actively expanding, particularly to service these aircraft," said Kovalenko. According to the Head of the Center for Countering Disinformation, another significant enterprise is the Kazan Helicopter Plant, which specializes in producing helicopters for military and civilian purposes. The city also hosts the Kazan State-Owned Gunpowder Plant, which manufactures gunpowder and explosives for aviation munitions and missiles, such as Kalibr and Iskander, Kovalenko added.

It seems there were the usual massive explosions from falling debris.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/01/20/drones-target-russian-military-aircraft-factory-in-kazan/

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...TS&cvid=a87d0b5085c049f39d307719039a75ae&ei=1

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia's use of artillery ammunition has been cut in half following an increase in long-range Ukrainian strikes on Moscow's military targets, according to Oleksandr Syrskyi, the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces. In an interview with Ukrainian news program TSN on January 19, he spoke about the Russian army's use of artillery ammunition, and the ramifications of Kyiv's strikes on "industrial enterprises that produce ammunition" and other military supplies. The fact that Russia's artillery ammunition use has decreased by about half is significant because it could signify a shortage in other critically necessary resources, such as weapons and other munitions, which could hamper the ability of Moscow's forces to fight effectively.

Given Ukrainian artillery is longer-ranged, and something in the order of 5x more accurate than Russian artillery, and both Ukrainian artillery ammo production and foreign-sourced supplies of artillery ammo to Ukraine are picking up in quantities, along with the ongoing Czech ammo initiative, Ukraine is now moving towards artillery superiority on the battlefield. Throw in Ukrainian drones as well, and it's beginning to be advantage to Ukraine.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article298832808.html

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russian Deputy Commander Killed in Kursk Oblast​

Russian media confirmed that Yevgeny Tikhanovich, deputy commander of the 22nd Motorized Rifle Regiment, was killed in Ukraine’s Kursk Oblast. The exact circumstances of his death remain unclear, though Ukrainian sources reported that he was "liquidated."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...S&cvid=d53ff361161e4e04a3102513cf43cfec&ei=12

 

[Niceguy2000]

At least that senile old fool Biden is gone.
As far as I'm concerned he has Israeli and Ukrainian blood on his hand.

 

[Politruk]

At least that senile old fool Biden is gone.
As far as I'm concerned he has Israeli and Ukrainian blood on his hand.

He gave Israel and Ukraine everything they wanted. What do you think he should have done?

 

[ChloeTzang]

At last....some accountability within the ZSU. A lot more of this is needed, and a lot more incompetent senior officers need to be weeded out

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia's Voronezh region, oil depot under attack with only anti-aircraft fire seemingly small caliber rifles. The great Russian air defenses are no more, leaving Putin's oil industry on the death clock. With the number of recent attacks, and with some facilities being hit more than once, it is hard to keep track of what all has been hit and when...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881467706769305945

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Like something out of WW2......

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881455159571890468

 

[ChloeTzang]

Putin's not negotiating seriously because if he does, he's dead. And we know what that means....

Trump has said if Putin won’t negotiate in good faith - which he won’t - then Trump will support Ukraine with no restrictions. Hopefully Ukraine is about to get what they need.

Ukraine will not agree to any demands from Vladimir Putin to cut its army, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday. The demand to reduce Ukraine’s army to a minimum was part of Russia’s initial peace proposals, which Moscow submitted to Kyiv in early March 2022. At the time, Russia called for a fivefold reduction of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from their pre-war size, limiting them to 50,000 personnel, including 1,500 officers. Moscow also demanded that Ukraine retain no more than four warships, 55 helicopters, and 300 tanks.

Unfortunately for Putin, his invasion of Ukraine has demonstrated that Ukraine needs a million man army.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/01/2...d-to-cut-its-army-by-five-times-says-zelensky

 

[Lazaran]

Trump has said <snip>

Chloe “Chicomgo” Tzang obviously didn’t get the memo from President Musk (and DonOld) regarding foreign aid…



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[ChloeTzang]

Chloe “Chicomgo” Tzang obviously didn’t get the memo from President Musk (and DonOld) regarding foreign aid…

Keep up with the news, Laz. Military aid to Ukraine stays in place and continues to roll.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Let's hope Trump is a little more forthcoming than Biden.

700 would be nice

 

[Lazaran]

Keep up with the news, Laz. Military aid to Ukraine stays in place and continues to roll.

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang Fails to recognize what that order means for the future.

Yes the aid for weapons, etc, that PRESIDENT BIDEN secured which was appropriated / approved by congress MUST be delivered to Ukraine (barring some congressional action) , but beyond that, the new order from President Musk (and DonOld) puts future aid packages in dire jeopardy. President Zelenskyy has publicly voiced his concerns:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/21...ions-the-us-commitment-to-europes-future.html



And this goes faaaaar beyond Ukraine.
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang needs to “Keep up with the news”.



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[Lazaran]

Let's hope Trump is a little more forthcoming than Biden.

700 would be nice

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Chloe “ Chicongo” Tzang FAILS to realize that it costs BIGLY MONEY to retrofit, transport, and maintain those old Abrams.



Also:

The Ukrainians found out that the equipment the U.S. initially recommended and supplied was actually well suited for Ukraines needs:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45315

From the article:

Derided 60-Year-Old US APC Comes up Trumps in Ukraine​

Since being sent to Ukraine as part of the US April 2022 $800 million aid package, the venerable M113 APC has become the invaluable workhorse for Kyiv’s armed forces.​

President Biden and our military knew BETTER than the Ukrainians what AMERICAN equipment would be most useful / practical n the conflict.

Hope that ^ helps.



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[RobDownSouth]

The Ukrainians found out that the equipment the U.S. initially recommended and supplied was actually well suited for Ukraines needs:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45315

From the article:

Derided 60-Year-Old US APC Comes up Trumps in Ukraine​

Since being sent to Ukraine as part of the US April 2022 $800 million aid package, the venerable M113 APC has become the invaluable workhorse for Kyiv’s armed forces.​

Genuinely interesting article! Thank you for sharing.
Wow....I hadn't realized the M113 Armored Personnel Carrier was still in existence.

I was under the assumption they'd all been scrapped decades ago, when the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle came out.

The "black boot" Army used these M113 carriers all the time in Europe, they weren't all that highly regarded even back then.

Reading this article shows how one small upgrade (surrounding the body with a 25mm steel screen) makes it a much harder target to kill and extended the useful life of this carrierr. The M113 can now effectively resist Russian armor-piercing rounds AND shaped-charge antitank weapons. Nice.

I see that they've been repurposed to function as battlefield ambulances and also can have the heavy (300+ pound) M120 mortars attached on top, which fire big ole Willie Pete (White Phosphorous) incendiary shells that can seriously fuck up a Ruskie infantry platoon's day. Plus the M113s all still have the 50-cal machine gun up front.

I'm glad we were able to supply these bad boys to Ukraine.

 

[Lazaran]

Genuinely interesting article! Thank you for sharing.
Wow....I hadn't realized the M113 Armored Personnel Carrier was still in existence.

I was under the assumption they'd all been scrapped decades ago, when the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle came out.

The "black boot" Army used these M113 carriers all the time in Europe, they weren't all that highly regarded even back then.

Reading this article shows how one small upgrade (surrounding the body with a 25mm steel screen) makes it a much harder target to kill and extended the useful life of this carrierr. The M113 can now effectively resist Russian armor-piercing rounds AND shaped-charge antitank weapons. Nice.

I see that they've been repurposed to function as battlefield ambulances and also can have the heavy (300+ pound) M120 mortars attached on top, which fire big ole Willie Pete (White Phosphorous) incendiary shells that can seriously fuck up a Ruskie infantry platoon's day. Plus the M113s all still have the 50-cal machine gun up front.

I'm glad we were able to supply these bad boys to Ukraine.

The Bradleys have also been tearing up the orcs, and have more than proved that they were the right choice to send to Ukraine in numbers as well. The Abrams were the least ready to be deployed, and they were also the least ready to be utilized by the Ukrainian forces to any great / significantly positive effect: Not to mention the cost per unit and the challenges and cost of maintaining them. It was a GREAT call by President Biden to send the weapons systems he did in the order and numbers that he did.





Side note:

It’s ironic that the Ukrainians bitched about the Abrams utility / capability AFTER they got them (AFTER they bitched about NOT getting them), and NOW the Ukrainians are singing about the M113s and the Bradleys AFTER they bitched about getting them instead of the Abrams.





Still…

Slava Ukraini!!!

 

[ChloeTzang]

The Bradleys have also been tearing up the orcs, and have more than proved that they were the right choice to send to Ukraine in numbers as well. The Abrams were the least ready to be deployed, and they were also the least ready to be utilized by the Ukrainian forces to any great / significantly positive effect: Not to mention the cost per unit and the challenges and cost of maintaining them. It was a GREAT call by President Biden to send the weapons systems he did in the order and numbers that he did.

Side note:

It’s ironic that the Ukrainians bitched about the Abrams utility / capability AFTER they got them (AFTER they bitched about NOT getting them), and NOW the Ukrainians are singing about the M113s and the Bradleys AFTER they bitched about getting them instead of the Abrams.

The Bradley's have been by far and away the best in terms of usefulness. Biden could have easily sent another few hundred and THAT would have been useful. As it is he sent just enough to keep Ukraine in the game and not nearly enough to win. You really have a thing about Biden, Laz, and it's skewing your view of reality.

Abrams would be good for the breakout, when it comes, as long as you have enough that you can afford to use a goodly number.

The M113's are great for a lot of stuff other than direct action - shame we don't have many left. Canada has a few they're retiring but they've wiffled and waffled about sending them to Ukraine since the start of the war. No kickbacks in sending old M113's to Ukraine for the Liberals.