Biden's Legacy

[ll74]

Fairly certain this will be a tribal war, but wanted to add my perspective as we turn the page on a new administration.

Overall, I think in his own words, Biden failed in his Presidential aspirations. Not only was he wanting a return to normalcy, but he ran on (basically) the end of Trump. And he ran on unity. All of these were utter failures.

The three major bills he passed, I think are the best of what his Presidency was about. The infrastructure bills will lead to excellent road updates, telecom updates and more. The chips act will lead to supply chain improvements across the board and future job growth in the sector. The inflation reduction act will lead to new energy investment.

I hate that he pardoned his son and blamed the DoJ.. I hate that he reacted based on the Twitter brain of his staff rather than the politics of the moment, many times. I hate that he couldn't message in any capacity that moved the political needle.

I think historically, he will be remembered as the guy in between Trump Presidencies and nothing more, long term.

I think he did great on the pandemic, but he will always be overshadowed by Fauci and the conspiracy horseshit.

Anyway...I'll probably just post this and watch the others try to one up each other, as is the normal way of things. Have fun with that part

 

[Politruk]

Biden just commuted the sentences of 2500 non-violent drug offenders.

 

[YDB95]

I don't love everything about the man or what he did, but I suspect history will be kind to him as the man who tried to clean up after Trump. Keeping in mind, of course, that we don't know just how ugly it will get the second time around.

 

[PaxNurgle]

This is my take on it as well. Trump did a lot of damage to the country; both domestically and abroad. Biden did his best to clean up after it but there were some things he just never quite got a handle on. Like Jimmy Carter before him, voters were uneasy about steadily rising prices, and it cost him support. He was blamed- unfairly in my opinion- for the debacle in Afghanistan, a lot of which was due to the previous administration's botched deal and the Afghani army under Karzai basically laying down and refusing to fight to defend their fellow countrymen. And people were freaked out over illegal immigration- unjustifiably so but again, he should have done more to at least make a good showing of having a tight, strong border. Plus, let's face it- the guy was starting to go a bit soft in the brain; hate to admit it but it's the naked truth. I do think over time, historians will be far more forgiving of Biden in light of what happened before his term- and what is all too likely to come after.

 

[ll74]

This is my take on it as well. Trump did a lot of damage to the country; both domestically and abroad. Biden did his best to clean up after it but there were some things he just never quite got a handle on. Like Jimmy Carter before him, voters were uneasy about steadily rising prices, and it cost him support. He was blamed- unfairly in my opinion- for the debacle in Afghanistan, a lot of which was due to the previous administration's botched deal and the Afghani army under Karzai basically laying down and refusing to fight to defend their fellow countrymen. And people were freaked out over illegal immigration- unjustifiably so but again, he should have done more to at least make a good showing of having a tight, strong border. Plus, let's face it- the guy was starting to go a bit soft in the brain; hate to admit it but it's the naked truth. I do think over time, historians will be far more forgiving of Biden in light of what happened before his term- and what is all too likely to come after.

I will say you give Biden far more credit than I do. I think the Hunter pardon and his desire to run again when he knew he couldn't really exposed him to be far more selfish than I originally believed him to be. That is a personal gripe more than a legacy gripe.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Biden just commuted the sentences of 2500 non-violent drug offenders.

Biden just commuted the sentences of 2500 non-violent drug offenders.

...and with those commutations, a mere three days before he rides off into the sunset with his head held high, he atones for his most grievous mistake as a United States Senator.

Senator Joe Biden had a sterling reputation as "tough on drugs", he was a "bitter-ender" until 2024 that "Marihuana" should remain a "Schedule 1" drug (the drugs with "no medical value" and a "high incidence of addiction"). Pot was included with heroin, ecstasy, LSD and peyote in this class. As far at the law was concerned, people who used pot were at higher risk of quote addiction unquote than Schedule 2 drugs (morphine, cocaine, oxycontin and dexedrine, which all evidently have some legit medical usage (had to check on dexies, they used to be used to treat ADHD and are now half of an adderall pill)

Anyway, the first appearance of "crack cocaine" in the early 90s scared the shit out of middle Americans. Why? One hit on a crack pipe caused "rampaging Negroes", which could NOT be tolerated in Murica. So Biden signed on to promote conservative legislation to make sentencing for "crack" (the drug of choice of American non-whites) to be TEN TIMES the length of a sentence for the equivalent amount of plain old cocaine (the drug of choice of American whites).

Over the next twenty years, it became increasingly obvious that Murica done fucked up. Moderates realized they'd been baboozled by Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and the whole Hee Haw gang. Efforts to make sentencing fairer were introduced in 1996 and finally signed in to law in 2010 by President Barack Obama, despite tremendous efforts of the "Fraternal Order of Police" to defeat the law. (Trace amounts of crack cocaine residue allowed police officers nationwide to abuse minorities, the new law supposedly curtailed this particular "police benefit")

Going forward, newly convicted felons faced the same sentencing guideline for the equivalent amount ratios of crack and coke. 2600 prisoners who had been convicted of virtually no significant amount of drugs but by law were forced to serve a minimum of five years in federal prison were pardoned by Trump in December 2018.

Other prisoners who were subjected to the 20:1 sentencing guidelines were not retroactively subjected to the new standard remained in prison. Congress refused to address the issue, for fear of being labeled "soft on crime" by Fox News talking heads (in particular, Sean Hannity). So they rotted in prison with no one to advocate on their behalf.

These were the "druggies" that President Biden commuted this week. Long overdue, but it's finally done.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I think he did great on the pandemic, but he will always be overshadowed by Fauci and the conspiracy horseshit.

Anyway...I'll probably just post this and watch the others try to one up each other, as is the normal way of things. Have fun with that part

I'm in general agreement with your analysis, but I think you're not giving enough credit to President Biden's skillful handling of the Post-Covid Economy.

It's hard to remember now (many Americans would choose to forget actually) that way back in January 2021, the American economy was still a trainwreck-in-motion due to the disastrous incompetent mishandling of the Covid pandemic by the former White House occupant.

Virtually every fucking Wall Street analyst predicted a recession "sometime in 2021". A "soft landing" was the best case scenario, but the entirety of the financial market girded their loins and out their money where their financial mouth was as they prepared for the first recession in over a decade. It was going to be ugly.

...but it didn't happen. Due to a great team assembled by President Joe Biden (none of this "I alone can fix this" happy horseshit), the government threaded the needle and private business had enough breathing room to recover on its own. The Biden team deserves ALL the credit for the "soft landing"....the government pulled off the equivalent of "filling an inside straight at the poker table".

Yes, I'm aware that everything had to break in the right way at the right time in order for this forced landing to occur, but the economists managing the turnaround were hyperfocused and pulled it off.

THAT is what President Joe Biden's administration will be remembered for, in my opinion.

 

[YDB95]

The pandemic triggered an economic downturn everywhere. It was less severe in the US than in most places, and the recovery was quicker. But people wanted a miracle worker, and Trump was more than happy to tell them he could fix everything.

 

[ll74]

Biden just commuted the sentences of 2500 non-violent drug offenders.

Probably re-read the purpose of the thread instead of drive by grenades.

 

[lessOHmo]

GIMPs legacy

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[lessOHmo]

and horseface

 

[ll74]

and horseface

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The thread is about the President, not the VP.

 

[Jonathan1998]

In your opinion, was Joe Biden a good president or not?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Biden's legacy is an astounding record of failure, incompetence, and destruction. A malignant cancer that will record him in history as, not just a failure, but as one of the, if not the, worst President's in US history.

He's been thoroughly repudiated—through the polls, which show he’s one of the lowest-rates presidents of all time, at the ballot box where his hand-picked successor Kamala Harris was brutalized in the elections. Inflation has killed the dreams of regular folks as just paying for groceries has become a traumatic experience; young people have no hope of buying a home or living the American Dream—considering the crushing interest rates and noxious cost of living. His tenure as president will likely be remembered not just as an era of economic mismanagement but as a multi-pronged disaster, failing at everything, his only "achievements" being negatives.

While every administration has its challenges, few have left such a clear trail of cause and effect as Biden’s policies did in fueling inflation—a scourge that has eroded the financial well-being of millions of Americans and upended the economy. Biden's reckless spending achieved little but fueling inflation, sending it skyrocketing to a 40-year high, peaking at 9.1% in June 2022 and leaving the incoming administration with an unprecedented financial mess to fix.

Biden's weakness has been obvious from the start, with the disastrous and chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan beginning a descent into international turmoil that has ledto wars breaking out and raging on the international stage. Over the past four years, the world has become far more unstable, and Biden's weakness as commander in chief was a major factor, not least of the impacts being Putin's taking advantage of Biden's weakness to launch the invasion of Ukraine - another mess for Trump to clean up, and one that, thanks to Biden's failure to decisively support Ukraine, has been made far far worse than it should have been. Putin clearly understood he could terrorize Ukraine without fear of serious retribution, showcasing Biden's weakness as a world leader. Weak Presidents bring hard times internationally, something Biden illustrated all too well.

And let's not even talk about the Border chaos and illegal immigration, which has been out of control for the last four years.

Not least of Biden's legacies has been the ongoing erosion of Americans’ faith that the justice system is fair and equal for all, with a blatantly two-tier administration of justice, a corrupt and politically biased DOJ and FBI, politically motivated prosecutions and even more blatantly destructive, the blanket pardon he issued to his son, and now, in his last few days in office, his downright demented unilateral declaration of a new Constitutional amendment that he has said is now the law of the land, despite neither of those things being remotely possible under our system of government.

The reality is that Biden is a serious danger and now he’s frankly sounding like an escaped lunatic. It wouldn’t matter if he weren’t still commander in chief of the most powerful country in the world, but unbelievably, he still is. The 25th should have been invoked a long time ago, and his entire Administration is culpable for leaving him im place. Let's just hope he doesn't try and do something even more sinister as he burns down his already terrible legacy.

 

[MajorRewrite]

The Biden administration moved away from the laissez faire economic policies that have been the rule in the US since the Reagan administration.

The return to an FDR-style interventionist economic policy helped the US come out of the pandemic with the strongest economy in the world.

 

[RobDownSouth]

In your opinion, was Joe Biden a good president or not?

President Joe Biden will go down in history as a good president.

I'm please that despite a razor-thin majority in the United States Senate, he was able to get confirmed the most diverse selection of federal judges in our nations history.

Also worth noting is that the total number of federal judges confirmed in his four year term was greater than that of the elderly felon (235 for Biden, 234 for Mango Mussolini).

Almost 500 federal judges have stepped down over the past 8 years as the "boomer generation" reaches retirement-with-full-benefits age.

The number of judges theoretically able to retire in the next four years will be much smaller (150-ish) and quite a few of them have indicated they will extend their lifetime judicial positions until such time as the orange stain on American democracy is removed.

The Biden administration, in four short years, saw a record number of female federal judges confirmed, more than any other President in history (and keep in mind the number of presidents who served TWO terms!). We've come a long way since Reagan's abysmal 9% in 8 years, baby!

https://i.imgur.com/RTHebmP.png

Two and a half times as many female judges as the convicted felon!

And racial makeup of the incoming federal judges?
84% white under Trump
40% white under Biden

https://i.imgur.com/ecBY9w7.png

Small wonder the usual suspects here are screaming "Woke! DEI! Affirmative Action!"
The federal judiciary is far less of a white male safe space than at any time in the past.

Thank you President Biden.

 

[icanhelp1]

Fairly certain this will be a tribal war, but wanted to add my perspective as we turn the page on a new administration.

Overall, I think in his own words, Biden failed in his Presidential aspirations. Not only was he wanting a return to normalcy, but he ran on (basically) the end of Trump. And he ran on unity. All of these were utter failures.

The three major bills he passed, I think are the best of what his Presidency was about. The infrastructure bills will lead to excellent road updates, telecom updates and more. The chips act will lead to supply chain improvements across the board and future job growth in the sector. The inflation reduction act will lead to new energy investment.

I hate that he pardoned his son and blamed the DoJ.. I hate that he reacted based on the Twitter brain of his staff rather than the politics of the moment, many times. I hate that he couldn't message in any capacity that moved the political needle.

I think historically, he will be remembered as the guy in between Trump Presidencies and nothing more, long term.

I think he did great on the pandemic, but he will always be overshadowed by Fauci and the conspiracy horseshit.

Anyway...I'll probably just post this and watch the others try to one up each other, as is the normal way of things. Have fun with that part

A ROARBAG's type of post. Not conducive to honest deliberation or conversation. You're right I don't have to participate, and I won't.

 

[ll74]

A ROARBAG's type of post. Not conducive to honest deliberation or conversation. You're right I don't have to participate, and I won't.

You could've done that without telling me that you aren't doing it, but more power to ya.

 

[MajorRewrite]

A ROARBAG's type of post. Not conducive to honest deliberation or conversation. You're right I don't have to participate, and I won't.

But you did participate.

Stable geniuses.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

He’ll be remembered for being out to lunch while those in power attempted to gaslight the American people that he was in charge of his faculties.

Oh, and him shitting his diaper in front of the Pope, causing the live feed to be yanked and then returning with a different colored suit…see the other was at the cleaners…or burned….

 

[Politruk]

He'll be remembered for cleaning up the economic mess Trump left.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

Biden just commuted the sentences of 2500 non-violent drug offenders.

I'm guessing you consider this a good thing? If so, I agree. Alcohol is legal and is still responsible for more deaths than drug use.

 

[lovecraft68]

A puppet who was betrayed by the same party that propped him up, and four years of a shadow presidency.

Record high crime, immigration, inflation, the entire world burning, abandoning the women of Afghanistan because we 'couldn't afford it' then funding Ukraine's entire war against Russia. Or, more like half funding because a lot of it came back to him. War monger, destroyer of democracy, international door mat and laughing stock, father to a career criminal, pardoner of murderers. Betrayer of American rights, women's rights, racist, bigoted...pedo in chief...

That's off the top of my head.

It's one of life's interesting ironies that Carter passed near the end of Biden's presidency. They were both awful presidents. Difference is, at least Carter did a lot of good for people once he was out of office. Biden remained in politics and grifted and hurt people to the very end.

 

[Lazaran]

When "some" people drive, fly, travel by, rail, etc, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people look at the renewed strength and expansion of U.S. alliances, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people look on a world map and see a strong, sovereign, independent, democratic Ukraine and Israel, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people breathe cleaner air, drink cleaner water, and eat safer, healthier food, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people see KBJ on the Supreme Court of the United States (and other women and people of color on the federal courts) they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people have more reliable, cleaner, sustainable energy, and charging for their EVs, etc, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people cash their paychecks that reflect better wages, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people look at their 401Ks, etc, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people benefit from a more just justice system, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

When "some" people pay the same high (and likely MUCH higher, barring a second Great Depression) prices for groceries and housing years after President Biden leaves office, they will fail to recognize that President Biden was a great President.

President Biden was / is a great President,

I already recognize that ^

I give zero fucks what history says.

 

[Politruk]

Biden's legacy is 600 thousand dead Ukrainian soldiers

If he had done nothing to help, Ukraine would now have a Russian-puppet government like Belarus.