For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Deleted member 6873114]

Your fucked-up thread title says it all, dumbass.

What is fucked up about the tread title? It is a valid question.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Cougar MRAP in service with the 82nd Air Assault Brigade.

 

[Rightguide]

It won't take all-out war in Europe to defeat Russia.

Yes it will because Russia will use nuclear weapons against any perceived existential threat to its border or state.

 

[ll74]

Are we back to the threat of nuclear war? Did Putin give everyone another red line that we can't move past?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Yes it will because Russia will use nuclear weapons against any perceived existential threat to its border or state.

Russia is fucked. Ukraine is on the roll again.....there's a new Ukrainian offensive in the Kursk region with the change in weather..... after their initial offensive took the Russians by surprise, the Ukrainian Army has spent 4 months on the Defense. Since August, this direction has been prioritized by the Russians for reinforcements with people, equipment, and ammunition. By September, the Russian "North" Army had accumulated up to 55 thousand people in the Kursk region, to which, in October-November, a North Korean contingent was added (which began to take part in the hostilities only in mid-December).

Since September, the Russians have been attacking along the entire contact line, pushed the Ukrainian Army out of the Glushkovsky district, and attacking Zeleny Shlyakh, Novoivanovka, Dar'ino, Pogrebki, Plekhovo, and other villages, but stopped on the Ukrainian defense (which on the western flank ran along the line of #Russian fortifications). By December 14, when North Korean soldiers were involved in the fighting around Malaya Lokhnya and north of Plekhovo, the main strike forces of the Russian Armed Forces - the Marine and Airborne brigades, as well as the combined motorized rifle units - had managed to replace most of their personnel two and some even three times due to losses. According to the estimates of Russian army officers stationed in the Kursk region, only 3-3.5 thousand North Korean soldiers were there. By December 31, 1,200 to 1,500 of them were killed, wounded, or missing (that is, killed and left near Ukrainian positions or in the gray zone). This led to the fact that the Koreans were used in a limited way in early January, only in one section of the front line. There were rumors that a North Korean reinforcement of up to 5 thousand people would arrive on the 20th of January.

The intensity of fighting in this direction decreased as Ukrainian missile strikes were carried out on the headquarters and locations of #Russian troops in the rear: in Ivanovskoye, Rylsk, and Lgov. Since the beginning of 2025, part of the command and communications of the 810th Marine Brigade, the 76th Airborne Division, and the #Russian "North" Army headquarters have been bombed. No one in the #RussianArmy was ready to attack without orders from their superiors, and the superiors are not up to orders these days, after being bombed to hell (literally LOL).

Obituaries have been found for Airborne Lieutenant Colonels Pavel Maletsky and Valery Tereshchenko, who respectively held the positions of commander of the engineering battalion and chief of communications of the 76th Airborne Division, considered the elite of the #Russian Armed Forces. Considering that the 76th Division is located near Kursk, and the date of death is indicated as December 30, these Russian officers were almost certainly killed during a Storm Shadow missile strike on a bunker in Lgov. It is quite possible that there were other high-ranking officers in the bunker with them. Interestingly, Tereshchenko is already the second chief of communications of the 76th Division to be killed by the Ukrainians - his predecessor, Lieutenant Colonel Sergei Nikulin, was liquidated in November 2022.


The overall situation in Kursk Oblast is bleak for the Russians as of the night of January 4-5. The reinforcements do not cover the losses that the group has been constantly suffering throughout the fall and December, and the combat capability of the troops is rapidly declining. The Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted a series of minor operations at the end of December, pushing the Russian Armed Forces away from Kruglenky and northeast Malaya Lokhnya. The #Russians abandoned the offensive along the line, attacking only from Plekhovo and west and east of Malaya Lokhnya. And with much less intensity than before.

ZSU C-in-C Syrsky, after his short trip to Kursk Oblast on New Year's Eve, estimated Russian losses there from August to the end of December at 38 thousand people killed, wounded, and missing. His estimate is close to what the Russian military have given us - 39-41 thousand for five months of fighting. More or less trained (or well trained, as in the case of the Airborne Forces) soldiers were replaced by people who signed a contract a couple of weeks (!) ago, as well as yesterday's conscripts and mobilized. This allowed the Armed Forces of #Ukraine to switch from defense to offensive actions, which they have now. It is still impossible to say whether the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a local operation to improve positions, a significant operation with strategic goals, or even a diversionary maneuver before events on another front.

Only time will tell, but what we do know is the Ukrainians have now penetrated 15kms behind the contact line, Ukrainian forces are confirmed to be inside Berdin and Novosotnitskii in the Kursk region, and are in the Russian rear, and widening the breach. All those reinforcements (including all the North Koreans) that Putin has poured inti Kursk, and Russians still aeren't able to stop the Ukrainian Army launching another offensive and taking ground.

How embarrassing. According to Russian sources, 'nothing exciting' happened overnight. On the other hand, "Military expert" (whoever he is) Ivan Stupak suggests that the potential new Ukrainian offensive in the Kursk region could have dual objectives: 30% military and 70% political. On the military side, the goal would be to force Russia to relocate troops from areas like Pokrovsk and Kurakhove to Kursk, thereby creating a new pressure point. Politically, the offensive could aim to expose the weakness of Russian authorities and increase tension within Russian society.

 

[ChloeTzang]

In the next series of modifications to enhance capability, Ukrainian Strykers will see the addition of a drone launcher platform, with additional drones for tripping running Russian infantry to the Strykers can crush them without wasting ammo, along with an additional drone for filming and a third to offer a brochure of 'I Want To Live'.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Here's a new one. A Ukrainian sea-drone carried an air-drone into range, and then launched, it, after which it destroyed a Russian Pantsir SAM system.

Lots of lessons for everyone in this war, not least that EVERYTHING will need drone defenses. Lots of them. We now entered the age of every boat-drone with a starlink antenna being a drone tender able to engage air, sea & land targets. Now, think of a swarm....an autonomous swarm...targeting a naval port or a a commercial tanker port...taking out opposing naval forces, air defences and land targets....we're close

 

[ishtat]

Two small points. Ukraine is now making money from fees for demonstrating to friendly foreign military brass how they use drones, both strategically and tactically, in both attack and defense. I guess they are the world's experts.

Disturbingly for Ukraine they appear to be running out of Ukrainians (recruits) possibly faster than the Russians are experiencing the same problem. Difficult to be certain of facts on this issue.

 

[Politruk]

What is fucked up about the tread title? It is a valid question.

No, it isn't, because we are not in Ukraine.

Also, any support we're giving has nothing to do with Biden family business interests. But you knew that.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[HisArpy]

Look at the bills that Congress passed. Some of this is from the President's drawdown authority, the rest is funding that Congress approved way back end of last year I think it was when they were all busy squabbling over Ukraine Aid and Israel and all the rest of it. Those billions have been their all thru 2024, sad to say.....and no prep work done to haul Bradley's out of storage and get then ready to go......more wasted time. They could have done that without committing to sending them but no, just more fucking around.....

We have thousands of Strykers, Bradley's and Abrams sitting in storage. We have hundreds of F16's and A10's, We have Blackhawks that Biden is giving away but they won't even sell them to Ukraine. We have hundreds of old 155mm guns, the old M198's - we have 350 in storage, perfectly good guns that we will never use again. These could have been refurbished and handed over 2 years ago when Ukraine desperately needed more guns - and they still do. Criminal that nothing has been done to get these out of mothballs, refurbished and shipped out - or just handed over to Ukraine for them to fix up themselves.

No, the Biden Administration has not done a lot to actually help Ukraine win. What they have done is kept them on life support, stalling and prevaricating and making promises while delivering as little as possible and getting in the way of others who want to deliver. It's been a shameful performance all round. It'd be hard to make us look worse in fact. It's so appallingly bad that you have to think it's been deliberate right from the start. No-one could accidentally be this incompetent across the board.

It's not incompetence, it's a planned grift. The warmongers needed mo muneeee...

 

[HisArpy]

A...a....aaaaa....apolo....to....to Biden.....I'm sorry Laz, my nose hurts from snorting most of a mug of hot Columbian.....

No. Just, no. Never. Never in a million years. If Biden was burning in hell, I would donate gasoline.

I have an entire book of matches.

 

[Lazaran]

A...a....aaaaa....apolo....to....to Biden.....I'm sorry Laz, my nose hurts from snorting most of a mug of hot Columbian.....

No. Just, no. Never. Never in a million years. If Biden was burning in hell, I would donate gasoline.

I have an entire book of matches.

BDS



Derpy

 

[Politruk]

Yes it will because Russia will use nuclear weapons against any perceived existential threat to its border or state.

Which losing this war ain't.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Which losing this war ain't.

An existential threat to Putin perhaps, but NOT to Russia.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Rheinmetall delivers first Lynx IFV to Ukraine​

German defense conglomerate Rheinmetall has delivered a new KF41 Lynx infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) to Ukraine, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger told Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Jan. 7. Delivered at the end of 2024, the advanced vehicle was manufactured at the Rheinmetall plant in Unterlüß, Germany. According to Papperger, KF41 is still undergoing final testing and is expected to enter serial production soon. "The armed forces are testing it now to facilitate placing a serial order as quickly as possible," the CEO said.

This is a biggie, as 400 Lynx IFV's are contracted to be delivered to Ukraine over 2025. That's a huge improvement in combat power

https://english.nv.ua/nation/rheinmetall-delivers-first-lynx-ifv-to-ukraine-50479843.html

 

[Rightguide]

Which losing this war ain't.

Installing a NATO force on their border is.

 

[Politruk]

Installing a NATO force on their border is.

That's no existential threat to Russia!

And Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Finland are NATO members already!

 

[Rightguide]

Embattled Macron Deflects From France’s Manifold Crises by Lecturing Other Countries — Says Ukraine Must Be ‘Realistic’ and Cede Territory, Complains of Musk ‘Interference’​

by Paul Serran Jan. 7, 2025 7:15 am

Politico reported:

“French President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday that Ukraine needs to adopt a ‘realistic’ stance on territorial issues as political momentum appears to gather in favor of opening peace talks with Russia.

This is the first time Macron has hinted that Kyiv should consider territorial concessions, having in the past repeatedly called for Ukraine’s territorial integrity to be preserved in any negotiations to end the war.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Zelensky-and-Macron.png‘You will have to give up territory, my dear friend’. (Credit: Getty Images)
“’The Ukrainians need to have realistic discussions on territorial issues, which they alone can do’, he said during a speech to French ambassadors gathered in Paris.”

Besides Crime that they conquered in 2014, Russians now control about 20% of former Ukrainian territories, and more: they held referendums and enshrined the regions in their Constitution as new regions. There’s no going back.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ects-frances-manifold-crises-lecturing-other/

Europe is getting a little wobbly.

 

[Politruk]

Besides Crime that they conquered in 2014, Russians now control about 20% of former Ukrainian territories, and more: they held referendums and enshrined the regions in their Constitution as new regions. There’s no going back.

Of course there is, if they lose the war,

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ects-frances-manifold-crises-lecturing-other/

Haven't you learned by now to stay away from GP?

 

[Rightguide]

That's no existential threat to Russia!

And Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Finland are NATO members already!

You are an idiot. Those countries have nothing to do with Russia's access to the Black Sea either.

 

[Politruk]

You are an idiot. Those countries have nothing to do with Russia's access to the Black Sea either.

If Ukraine joins NATO, Russia still has access to the Black Sea. If Ukraine recovers Crimea, Russia still has access to the Black Sea.

 

[Rightguide]

Mass Desertions Plague Elite Ukrainian Brigade Trained By France​

by Tyler Durden
Monday, Jan 06, 2025 - 11:45 PM

Ukrainian and Western media reports are confirming that members of an elite Ukrainian brigade trained by French forces have deserted in alarming numbers, some before ever stepping foot into battle against Russia.

The 155th "Anne of Kyiv" Mechanized Brigade, currently deployed near Pokrovsk, has been plagued by desertions and lack of properly accounting for troops. Some sources have described "organizational chaos" in the Western-backed initiative.

At least 50 members of the brigade actually went AWOL while training inside France. The brigade later was sent to the battlefield with numbers greatly depleted.

"About 1,700 soldiers from a Ukrainian unit equipped by the West and trained in France went AWOL before firing a shot," The Telegraph writes. "At least 50 members of the new 155th mechanized brigade, one of the few to operate the Leopard 2 battle tank, disappeared while elements of the unit were being drilled in France."

"By the time it entered battle for the first time, at least 1,700 of its troops went absent without leave at numerous points. Some 500 soldiers were still missing, it was reported as recently as November," the report indicates further.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mass-desertions-plague-elite-ukrainian-brigade-trained-france

 

[Rightguide]

If Ukraine joins NATO, Russia still has access to the Black Sea. If Ukraine recovers Crimea, Russia still has access to the Black Sea.

NATO isn't in the cards for Ukraine.