On This day In 1492 Spain Drove Out It's Muslim Invaders

You do understand, don't you, that that was a national disgrace, and no occasion, now, for the gloating triumphalism which The Federalist appears to be expressing?
 
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Freedom of religion doesn't mean shit to you, does it?
 
1492 was also when the Spanish Inquisition really got going.
You might have gotten a confused impression of the history from the famous Mel Brooks sketch. The monks doing song-and-dance numbers, the nuns doing synchronized swimming -- they got all of that right . . . but . . . thing was, the Inquisition had no jurisdiction over Jews or Muslims as Jews or Muslims -- those were infidels, not heretics. But after the 1492 decree, many converted to avoid deportation -- and it then became the Inquisition's business to make sure they were sincere converts, and not practicing the old faith in secret.
 
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Also, if the Inquisition condemned you to death, you were simply burnt at the stake, in public. The Inquisition did not make use of elaborate underground death-traps like in Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum."
 
On this day in history, a gang of right wing imbeciles seized control of a wildlife preserve because they wanted rancher welfare.

On Jan. 2, 2016, a heavily armed group led by brothers Ammon and Ryan Bundy seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, beginning a 41-day standoff to protest the imprisonment of two ranchers convicted of setting fires on public land and to demand the federal government turn over public lands to local control.

https://apnews.com/today-in-history/january-2
 
The completion of the Reconquista was a great day in world history and the culmination of 700 years of resistance to the Muslim invasion of Europe.

Unfortunately, Europe is going to have to do a repeat fairly soon.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Civilization and Islam cannot co-exist.
 
The completion of the Reconquista was a great day in world history and the culmination of 700 years of resistance to the Muslim invasion of Europe.

Unfortunately, Europe is going to have to do a repeat fairly soon.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Civilization and Islam cannot co-exist.
No shit. There are certain cultures/belief systems that are immiscible with Western culture. Islamic theological philosophy is still stuck in the 11th century. There are so many stuck in the notion, pushed by certain politicians that "they are just like us." No, they aren't. Islam will have to reform itself or die.
 
No shit. There are certain cultures/belief systems that are immiscible with Western culture. Islamic theological philosophy is still stuck in the 11th century. There are so many stuck in the notion, pushed by certain politicians that "they are just like us." No, they aren't. Islam will have to reform itself or die.
Islam can't reform. It's the nature of the religion. It's fixed in time, and to deviate from it is blasphemy. It's just incompatible with western civilization, full stop. The Chinese are about the only non-Islamic country that deals with it effectively, and there approach is to eliminate it completely.
 
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Civilization and Islam cannot co-exist.
The Islamic Caliphate was the most brilliant civilization west of China when there was scarcely such thing as a town in England or a literate person in Germany.
 
Civilization in Spain never did recover from the loss of the Jews and the Moors. After that, the country just got stupider and stupider with every century. Especially compared to the rest of Europe, which was entering the high Renaissance just as Spain was setting course for the opposite direction.
 
Islam can't reform. It's the nature of the religion. It's fixed in time, and to deviate from it is blasphemy. It's just incompatible with western civilization, full stop. The Chinese are about the only non-Islamic country that deals with it effectively, and there approach is to eliminate it completely.
India. ;)
 
Civilization in Spain never did recover from the loss of the Jews and the Moors. After that, the country just got stupider and stupider with every century. Especially compared to the rest of Europe, which was entering the high Renaissance just as Spain was setting course for the opposite direction.
From that point, it was only 96 years until 1588 when Sir Francis Drake defeated the Spanish Armada, and that for sure marked Spain's slow decline. However, it did set the stage for Miguel Cervantes to write Don Quixote, in which the conversos (Jews) figured significantly in the story. I don't know if that's the first time the term "brain drain" could have been coined, but it was true enough.
 
The Islamic Caliphate was the most brilliant civilization west of China when there was scarcely such thing as a town in England or a literate person in Germany.
Propaganda. Valuable services were performed and there were some advances in the sciences. But their contributions were incremental AND those contributions were made by a sect of Islam that no longer exists, as a matter of fact they are labeled as apostates.
 
The Islamic Caliphate was the most brilliant civilization west of China when there was scarcely such thing as a town in England or a literate person in Germany.

That was an anomaly, never repeated since.
 
That was an anomaly, never repeated since.
And way over rated. A great deal of Islamic history is written by latter day politically correct historians in Reader's Digest format and by the Islamist's themselves to magnify their part in history.
 
And way over rated. A great deal of Islamic history is written by latter day politically correct historians in Reader's Digest format and by the Islamist's themselves to magnify their part in history.
The only thing overrated is its originality -- the Muslims got a lot of their civilization from classical Greek sources. But at least they did preserve those books after they were entirely lost in Europe -- we would not have a single volume of Plato without the Muslims.
 
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